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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    Monday night Arena lean
    2 more months before real football begins. Until then, you have Arena playoffs the next 3 weeks plus tonight.

    I like Grand Rapids/Arizona under 119. Grand Rapids might put up 80, or maybe just 50. But Smoker (Ari's QB) sucks. His lifelong QB rating is just 99, and 93 this year at Arizona. Grand Rapids has found a QB in MacPherson (not to be confused with McPherson). He has managed a passer rating of 119.

    I expect Grand Rapids to score. I expect Arizona to struggle under Smoker (and perhaps give up 1-2 Pick-6s or fumble returns for TDs).

    I'm on the under.

    Why aren't I advocating playing Grand Rapids? I played both sides. I ended up with a huge position on Grand Rapids, so I had to play Arizona to make it flatter (and hence the line is now -1.5).

    I love Grand Rapids at +1.5, but I won't give them out as a play, since I just sold some off, and that would appear dishonest.
  • ArenaPlaya
    SBR High Roller
    • 06-30-08
    • 213

    #2
    What do you think about Cleveland?
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    • SexyMit
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-12-06
      • 6139

      #3
      Is it a play of yours the under a strong play or just a lean Justin?
      If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

      I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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      • ArenaPlaya
        SBR High Roller
        • 06-30-08
        • 213

        #4
        Played Cleveland at -4.....Am I doomed?
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        • SexyMit
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-12-06
          • 6139

          #5
          I know nothing about Arena but I have been following Justin and he seems to know his stuff.
          If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

          I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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          • Justin7
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-31-06
            • 8577

            #6
            Originally posted by ArenaPlaya
            Any quick thoughts on Cleveland winning?
            I like Cleveland. I played them at -2.5, and still like them a little at 4.5.
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            • ArenaPlaya
              SBR High Roller
              • 06-30-08
              • 213

              #7
              wheew glad to hear this
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              • Justin7
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-31-06
                • 8577

                #8
                Originally posted by SexyMit
                Is it a play of yours the under a strong play or just a lean Justin?
                It's a normal play, but not the 57% lock-board variety.
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                • frostno98
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-11-07
                  • 9769

                  #9
                  I got Cleveland as well as the final 2nd leg to my par 2, really need this one too. Plus favorites have to cover someday right?
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                  • SexyMit
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-12-06
                    • 6139

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Justin7
                    2 more months before real football begins. Until then, you have Arena playoffs the next 3 weeks plus tonight.

                    I like Grand Rapids/Arizona under 119. Grand Rapids might put up 80, or maybe just 50. But Smoker (Ari's QB) sucks. His lifelong QB rating is just 99, and 93 this year at Arizona. Grand Rapids has found a QB in MacPherson (not to be confused with McPherson). He has managed a passer rating of 119.

                    I expect Grand Rapids to score. I expect Arizona to struggle under Smoker (and perhaps give up 1-2 Pick-6s or fumble returns for TDs).

                    I'm on the under.

                    Why aren't I advocating playing Grand Rapids? I played both sides. I ended up with a huge position on Grand Rapids, so I had to play Arizona to make it flatter (and hence the line is now -1.5).

                    I love Grand Rapids at +1.5, but I won't give them out as a play, since I just sold some off, and that would appear dishonest.
                    You say grand rapids +2. Is that one stronger than the under? I am looking for a play this evening.
                    If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                    I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                    • Justin7
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-31-06
                      • 8577

                      #11
                      I like GRR Pk +115 better than GRR +2 -110.
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                      • ArenaPlaya
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 06-30-08
                        • 213

                        #12
                        Cleveland D a lil soft to start but long ways to go
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                        • pico
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 04-05-07
                          • 27321

                          #13
                          gl, justin
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                          • Wilforth
                            Restricted User
                            • 05-10-08
                            • 16309

                            #14
                            I tailed someone's play and played the Gladiators -4.5. It appears the bet is doomed even before the last quarter. What do you guys think?
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                            • ArenaPlaya
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 213

                              #15
                              Cleveland
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                              • frostno98
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-11-07
                                • 9769

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Wilforth
                                I tailed someone's play and played the Gladiators -4.5. It appears the bet is doomed even before the last quarter. What do you guys think?
                                You might be correct. So far, every favorites that dominated that same team during the regular season are getting their @sses handed to them for some reason. Gotta be bought, I can't come up with any other conclusion.
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                                • Wilforth
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 05-10-08
                                  • 16309

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by frostno98
                                  You might be correct. So far, every favorites that dominated that same team during the regular season are getting their @sses handed to them for some reason. Gotta be bought, I can't come up with any other conclusion.
                                  Thanks for putting the matter to rest. I'm now rest assured I've lost the CLE bet rather than waiting till the last quarter to confirm the loss.
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                                  • ArenaPlaya
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 06-30-08
                                    • 213

                                    #18
                                    Cleveland
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                                    • SexyMit
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-12-06
                                      • 6139

                                      #19
                                      Justin stop pounding the Rampage line so I can get a better number.... lol
                                      If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                                      I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                                      • ArenaPlaya
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 06-30-08
                                        • 213

                                        #20
                                        Cleveland
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                                        • frostno98
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-11-07
                                          • 9769

                                          #21
                                          Wow, they were only like 10 yards from the endzone and Cleveland didn't attempted to do a completion or score
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                                          • Justin7
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-31-06
                                            • 8577

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by frostno98
                                            Wow, they were only like 10 yards from the endzone and Cleveland didn't attempted to do a completion or score
                                            The goal is to win, not cover.

                                            With 1st down and 20 seconds to go, you can blow the whole clock pretty easily, guaranteeing the win.

                                            As I said, I has Cleveland at -2.5, but didn't recommend them at -4.

                                            This is yet another example of when the good number wins, and the chasers lose. If I were a service and gave out Cleveland, all the followers would be screwed. If this happens 1/20th of the time, followers will go bankrupt in the long term. If you want to make money, you have to do your own work, and bet before the line moves.
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                                            • frostno98
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-11-07
                                              • 9769

                                              #23
                                              Yeah, Arena kinda reminds me of the NFL, lines are like razor sharp now.
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                                              • Justin7
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-31-06
                                                • 8577

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by frostno98
                                                Yeah, Arena kinda reminds me of the NFL, lines are like razor sharp now.
                                                The playoff lines are better, but the openers are still soft. NFL is a whole different kind of monster.
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                                                • frostno98
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-11-07
                                                  • 9769

                                                  #25
                                                  Nice call on the under, I took the Rapids instead, since you said smoker sux.
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                                                  • Justin7
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                    • 8577

                                                    #26
                                                    Glad you made a little $$$.

                                                    I'm working on a CFL monstrosity. I have demolished all sorts of football with computer models for years. The only issue is: how do I share CFL picks without 1. screwing myself, and 2. screwing followers that will take bad numbers.
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