Will Betfair Bring Down Online Gambling?

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Will Betfair Bring Down Online Gambling?
    They are reason for tennis fixes, what other sports will be fixed because of Betfair? Any other book it would not be possible or with it to fix a tennis match because of limits.
  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    Wish I could play there, you have no idea.
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    • acw
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-29-05
      • 576

      #3
      Great post coach!
      What is simply very annoying is that whenever there is an unusual betting pattern on BetFair the match will be declared corrupt. Simply completely outrageous.
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      • fiveteamer
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-14-08
        • 10805

        #4
        I don't think that's outrageous at all.
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        • fiveteamer
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-14-08
          • 10805

          #5
          crazyl would cleanup on the tennis there.
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          • MonkeyF0cker
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-12-07
            • 12144

            #6
            Seems to me this is the best way for them to track match fixing. Why would they eliminate their best tool? I really don't think it would be wise of the authorities to do so.
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            • acw
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-29-05
              • 576

              #7
              Originally posted by fiveteamer
              I don't think that's outrageous at all.
              So if the public (through BetFair) decides that some tennis player should be 100-1, then as soon as he wins, the other player may have faked the match?
              It will be very good the moment a player stands up and refuses to start a match claiming that he does not agree on the chances the bookies and BetFair give him.
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              • fiveteamer
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-14-08
                • 10805

                #8
                Its quite obvious to point out tennis fixes through betfair

                Your example is extreme.
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                • bigboydan
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 55420

                  #9
                  Originally posted by crazyl
                  Wish I could play there, you have no idea.
                  I wish I could as well Crazyl... And yes I do have an idea.
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                  • robzilla
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-25-07
                    • 3556

                    #10
                    Ive been waiting 1 month for my payout. im getting pretty mad now.
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                    • noyb
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 09-13-05
                      • 971

                      #11
                      Originally posted by acw
                      So if the public (through BetFair) decides that some tennis player should be 100-1, then as soon as he wins, the other player may have faked the match?
                      It will be very good the moment a player stands up and refuses to start a match claiming that he does not agree on the chances the bookies and BetFair give him.
                      your example is not only a bit extreme, it's also totally off. in a fixed match a guy that should be traded at, say, 4/1, is trading 1/4.
                      if in a fixed match some tennis player trades at a 100-1, his opponent, the one that's tanking the match, has obviously done a terrible job securing any kind of profit, not backing down his opponent.
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                      • noyb
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-13-05
                        • 971

                        #12
                        Originally posted by acw
                        So if the public (through BetFair) decides that some tennis player should be 100-1, then as soon as he wins, the other player may have faked the match?
                        It will be very good the moment a player stands up and refuses to start a match claiming that he does not agree on the chances the bookies and BetFair give him.
                        it's unusual betting patterns that make a game (sometimes rightfully) suspect, not unusual long underdogs winning (like in your example).
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                        • HeeeHAWWWW
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-13-08
                          • 5487

                          #13
                          Betfair is the best way to spot tennis fixes. You have 3452353245 first round matches with 10k bet on them, and then one with half a million. Surprise surprise, the latter produces a shock result.

                          The authorities know this, but there's next to no way to prove it.
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                          • woodg8
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-21-08
                            • 1349

                            #14
                            Dunno if someone can help me here, I had £10 on Monfils to win Wimbledon (was going to lay it off hoping he'd won a few games). Today, they announced he's withdrawn from Wimbledon without playing a game, I checked my statement and they counted it as a loss.

                            I also had £200 on Guccione to beat Monfils in the first round. Check my statement today, and they have voided the bets! I don't understand why they would void this bet, yet still take my money on Monfils winning Wimbledon. Seems like double standards, can anyone help me find the right rules relating to it?
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                            • fiveteamer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-08
                              • 10805

                              #15
                              first best is a loss, 2nd you should get a refund, no?
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                              • woodg8
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-21-08
                                • 1349

                                #16
                                I've got the refund. I just don't get why one is considered void before he's played, and not the other one.
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                                • fiveteamer
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-14-08
                                  • 10805

                                  #17
                                  the first one is a prop, just like derby futures, all bets have action. doesn't matter if they start or not.
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                                  • noyb
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-13-05
                                    • 971

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by woodg8
                                    I've got the refund. I just don't get why one is considered void before he's played, and not the other one.
                                    before placing a bet, try to actually read the rulebook of the book or exchange you are using, especially on tennis because rules can differ a lot. non-participants count for bets on outrights, withdrawals before one full set is played make matchbets go void.

                                    this info is even listed quite clearly in the market-screen under "Rules"
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                                    • HeeeHAWWWW
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-13-08
                                      • 5487

                                      #19
                                      Tennis match rules:



                                      (scroll down a bit for the list)
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                                      • woodg8
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-21-08
                                        • 1349

                                        #20
                                        Fair enough, no biggie, thankfully its only a tenner.
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