MLB RunLines

[shock1]

Is Pinnacle Sports the only sportsbook where you can buy 1/2 point on RunLines or is there other sportsbooks that do this as well?

[Doug]

Everybook has it if you combine ML and RL bets. To make a favored team -1 run instead of -1.5, you can do this:


Bet the moneyline, take the payoff from the ML, bet that amount on RL. If favored team wins by 1 run, you have a push.

[Ganchrow]

Is Pinnacle Sports the only sportsbook where you can buy 1/2 point on RunLines or is there other sportsbooks that do this as well?

5 Dimes is another.

[shock1]

Everybook has it if you combine ML and RL bets. To make a favored team -1 run instead of -1.5, you can do this:


Bet the moneyline, take the payoff from the ML, bet that amount on RL. If favored team wins by 1 run, you have a push.

Can you give me an example of how to do this because I don't see what you're talking about...thanks

[shock1]

5 Dimes is another.

5 Dimes doesn't do that. They only offer Run Lines of -1.5, +1.5, and +2.5 for the favorite team. I'm looking for sportsbooks that offer Lines of -1 for favorite team and +1 for underdog team...thanks

[bigboydan]

I'm looking for sportsbooks that offer Lines of -1 for favorite team and +1 for underdog team...thanks

use pinny's dynamic lines option for the lines you are looking for.

[Doug]

Can you give me an example of how to do this because I don't see what you're talking about...thanks

I hope John doesn't mind me posting a thread here from the "enemy" forum. I went into a detailed explanation near the end of this thread:

Sorry if inappropriate link.

[onlooker]

Here's a made-up example of how to make a -1 line : Numbers may not reflect actual odds on what happens when going +/- 1.5 runs with a +175/ -185 game, I made the line up quick.

Boston +175 +1.5 -115
NYY -185 -1.5 +105

You want NYY, but don't want to lay -185, and will take a push if they win by one, instead of a loss laying -1.5 runs.

take the ML ( 185) divide it into 100. That's 100 divided by 185, which = .5405 .5405 is your multiplier.

add 1 to the multiplier to get 1.5405

divide that into 1. That's 1 divided by 1.5405= .6491
Where basing this on a $100 bet, so multiply .6491 X100= 64.91

That's what you bet on ML

64.91 at -185= 35.09

you take the ML payoff ( 35.09) and bet it on RL

35.09 at +105= 36.84

so you have:

64.91= 35.09 on ML
35.09= 36.84 on -1.5 RL
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100= 71.93

100 divided by 71.93 gives you a -1 line of -139


If NYY win by one you win the ML for 35.09 and lose that 35.09 on RL for a profit/ loss of zero. It's not too difficult once you do it a few times.

You effectively make a -1 line at any book or combination of books.

Don't credit me, credit RX'er Illini.

There is your formula from that thread Doug, I will remove that link for you.

[shock1]

There is your formula from that thread Doug, I will remove that link for you.

How would you apply the formula to make the underdog line of +1

[Doug]

I'll post it later, don't have it handy, but I think you get the idea.

[shock1]

I'll post it later, don't have it handy, but I think you get the idea.

thanks Doug, I hope you can post the formula soon.

[Doug]

Probably by Tomorrow night, unless somebody else wants to post it ?

Onlooker, sorry about link, I don't know how to paste part of a thread, hell I have trouble opening attachments !

[onlooker]

Onlooker, sorry about link, I don't know how to paste part of a thread, hell I have trouble opening attachments !

No problem bud. We are here to help as much as we can.

Plus we cant be giving free hits to the shop across the street.

[Doug]

thanks Doug, I hope you can post the formula soon.

Real quick version:

Clev +1.5 -220
Clev +104
Clev +1 -156

Bet the amount you win on Clev +1.5, on the ML, to get same thing

220=100
100=104

Cleveland loses by 1, you break even 320 to win 204= -156

If you can beat either of Pinny's numbers, you can get a better +1 price.

I'll see if I can find it stated algebra style, like for the -1, but that's the thought process, I don't play +1's, I prefer dog pay-offs.

[Ganchrow]

5 Dimes doesn't do that. They only offer Run Lines of -1.5, +1.5, and +2.5 for the favorite team. I'm looking for sportsbooks that offer Lines of -1 for favorite team and +1 for underdog team...thanks

I had thought I remembered otherwise from last year's regular season, but I've certainly been wrong before.

Anyway, I've attached a spreadsheet to do the conversion about which Doug wrote. Just enter in the approriate data in the shaded cells and the ±1 run constituent parts are calculated in the unshaded cells. It should be self-explanatory.

[Winston Smith]

You already won POTM, Ganchrow; quit trying so hard.


Anyway, 5Dimes has been offering -1 puck lines in the NHL, so I see no reason why they wouldn't bring that into the MLB season again this year. I remember them doing that last year. Maybe CRIS, too, but I'm not certain.

I kind of think one or both of them offer -1 ARL on the dogs, too.

[shock1]

I had thought I remembered otherwise from last year's regular season, but I've certainly been wrong before.

Anyway, I've attached a spreadsheet to do the conversion about which Doug wrote. Just enter in the approriate data in the shaded cells and the ±1 run constituent parts are calculated in the unshaded cells. It should be self-explanatory.

Thanks a lot for the spreadsheet to do the conversion

[Doug]

I had thought I remembered otherwise from last year's regular season, but I've certainly been wrong before.

Anyway, I've attached a spreadsheet to do the conversion about which Doug wrote. Just enter in the approriate data in the shaded cells and the ±1 run constituent parts are calculated in the unshaded cells. It should be self-explanatory.

Thanks, Ganchrow, now I don't have to try to explain it. I get the math well enough for myself, can't always explain it properly. You are a few steps up on me in the math area.

[Ganchrow]

Thanks, Ganchrow, now I don't have to try to explain it.

No problem. I like keeping myself useful around here.

[bigboydan]

so, anyone find another books that offer the -1 run lines besides pinny today ?

[Shortstop]

so, anyone find another books that offer the -1 run lines besides pinny today ?

Any out there?

[JerseyShop101]

Bumping for those that might be interested in making their own -1 line.

Ganch's -1 excel caclculator is in post #15 above (I can't bump his attachment in this post).

I wish everyone a succesful MLB handicapping season.

PLAY BALL!

[LT Profits]

5 Dimes has a straight -1 available without the conversion.