Antonio Esfandiari is a commentator donkey

[TheCentaur]

All in and call preflop in the WSOP live main event. 1010 vs. A5 suited. Flop comes 444. How many outs does the A5 have? The "expert" commentator Esfandiari say there are 3 outs and he has to catch an ace.

This guy plays for 100's of thousands? Deal me in
I like the guy but that's pretty bad...
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[eidolon]

poker is all about odds; you are a genius

[macoeric]

He needed an ace, a 5 does nothing for him, nor does a straight, edit: unless straight flush
Am I missing something?

[rm18]

He needed an ace, a 5 does nothing for him, nor does a straight
Am I missing something?

if another 4 comes out he has quads with a better kicker

[EmpireMaker]

Clearly he had 4 outs. Does anyone have a live feed that they could post ?

[MartinBlank]

He needed an ace, a 5 does nothing for him, nor does a straight
Am I missing something?

A fourth "4" would also give the A/5 the hand.

[pavyracer]

He needed an ace, a 5 does nothing for him, nor does a straight, edit: unless straight flush
Am I missing something?

What MartinBlank said.

[EmpireMaker]

He needed an ace, a 5 does nothing for him, nor does a straight, edit: unless straight flush
Am I missing something?

the 4th 4 is a winner for him also

[macoeric]

^ Did not even think of that, duh
Can't you tell I play poker alot

[rm18]

also the pot could chop if it goes A4 or JJ QQ KK

[k13]

All in and call preflop in the WSOP live main event. 1010 vs. A5 suited. Flop comes 444. How many outs does the A5 have? The "expert" commentator Esfandiari say there are 3 outs and he has to catch an ace.

This guy plays for 100's of thousands? Deal me in
I like the guy but that's pretty bad...
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He's been watching and commentating for days and nights, he's barely paying attention.

[Dutch]

Running fives would give him a bigger fullhouse.

[CanuckG]

also there was a possible runner runner straight flush after the flop

[TheCentaur]

Running fives would give him a bigger fullhouse.

That would have been grotesque

[MarlinsFan2212]

I didnt watch it but maybe its possible he knew someone threw away a 4?

Anyway Esfandiari would happily play you and take your money

[Dutch]

I didnt read the rest of the thread

fixt

[CanuckG]

but he did just make a good call on ben lambs hand

[TheCentaur]

I didnt watch it but maybe its possible he knew someone threw away a 4?

Anyway Esfandiari would happily play you and take your money

No they only show the hands in action after the flop. The percentages after the flop were 81/17%, well above the 12% if he only had 3 outs. The missing 2% was for the tie with running picture cards. Lon McKearen said the A5 had a backdoor flush draw but it would be no good because a full house is better, not thinking of the straight flush.

[CanuckG]

lon is so ******* dumb. just said a guy needed a 7 or 8 but the 8 made a straight for the other guy. he's so lost out there.

[BigDaddy]

lon is so ******* dumb. just said a guy needed a 7 or 8 but the 8 made a straight for the other guy. he's so lost out there.

agree


they have had some excellent guests

i think espn should hire those guys and get rid of these dummies

[TheCentaur]

lon is so ******* dumb. just said a guy needed a 7 or 8 but the 8 made a straight for the other guy. he's so lost out there.

Yeah I've noticed his commentating is much lower quality when its live. The 30 min delay is not enough time to clean up his fuk ups

[Dutch]

Norman Chad is getting treated like an ass this year. He makes too many dumb jokes and has some serious man crushes but he's a lot smarter than Lon.

[TheCentaur]

Like him or hate him, Phil Hellmuth is the most entertaining commentator IMO

[Roy Halladay]

no. NO. NO.

[CanuckG]

oh my god ben lamb with the 3-2 to river trips...opponent in the tank for 10 mins.....if u noticed ESPN actually showed ben lambs hand on the screen by mistake so if his opponent waited 20 more minutes he would of known what he had

[Roy Halladay]

jamie gold > doyle brunson

[sweethook]

deal

[mr. leisure]

Lon is definitely the weak link

[illmatick]

Any pros still left in it?

[romecloneout]

hellmuth was pretty good, lon is turrrrrible

[CanuckG]

Any pros still left in it?

ben lamb

[Kaabee]

surprised neither of them caught this, i figured they would get it eventually.

[GUMMO77]

Ben Lamb has been playing amazing. Dude, unless he just bombs before the Nov. 9, will have to be the favorite.

Btw, pretty sure Johnny Chan was drunk off his ass last night when he stepped in the both for 30mins.

[tkim8404]

I even took a little while to figure out that fourth 4 was an out.

[dtp]

i'd say esfandiari is pretty good. much better than the other guy.