Paying American Players at SBR

[JoeVig]

Idea is good, but against rules.

Glad to see you got your points for the day with this insightful post.

[Kaladarus]

What's the difference in Full Tilt Poker vs. SBR poker (or sportsbook or casino) which is played for points that can be redeemed for cash by US citizens?

Maybe FTP can come back and let us earn/buy "points" that can later be redeemed for say, $1 per point?

Points are given for free and you can not buy them. Poker sites are still allowed to do things like freerolls that are basically just giveaways. There are places that allow US players to play for free for prizes still. Even the UFC has poker tournaments that give away free money. The problem with poker sites is that they don't benefit from players playing their freerolls if they are not allowed to deposit with them. SBR can still benefit from US players if they deposit in sports books.

[Kaladarus]

It's basically the same thing, but for some reason one is legal and the other is not.

[SBR_John]

Mark my words. This site will lose 50% of US Pros when renewal period ends. And if you think you can make up the loss with non-US posters you must be living in La La land. 95% of the money being wagered at offshore books on NFL and college football is by US citizens. Good luck making the 2 posters SBR has from Uzbekistan and French Guiana betting on American football more than $5 per bet.

So be it, the show will go on. If a Pro wants to go back to 6 points a day and not play SBR trivia, poker, not use the store, give up the anniversary bonus and all the many contests like Beat the Prick or play for a seat in the WSOP, Ryder Cup, ect., then all I can say is OK. You will be missed but the show will most definitely roll on without you.

[trumpdown]

Why would this be worth the bother unless you are hard up for cash yourself.

[vitalyo]

SBR_John i have some cash with 5dimes , i wonder if i can exchange my cash for SBR points with another sbr member ?

TNX.

[katstale]

I am glad to see SBRJohn come into this thread and also others who have come in and want to be members of my newly formed kingdom. I was also glad to see that John did not immediately take umbrage with my tribute idea. It shows he has not totally abandoned his American market.

As for you guys who took me out to eat and I forgot abt paying you back..... man that stuff comes with old age and all you will have to do is remind me of the when and the where and i will be glad to pay you back. i have been called alot of things in my life, but NEVER a stiff.

[Grandmaster B]

its against SBR rules katstale.

they let mexican stallion and thaddeus run sportsbooks with SBR points...

key word 'let'

katstale might get a pass

[horja1]

So be it, the show will go on. If a Pro wants to go back to 6 points a day and not play SBR trivia, poker, not use the store, give up the anniversary bonus and all the many contests like Beat the Prick or play for a seat in the WSOP, Ryder Cup, ect., then all I can say is OK. You will be missed but the show will most definitely roll on without you.

Give people some free shit and as soon as you give them less (still for free) they want your head on a plate - only 40 days since the change and they already forgot about the benefits they had for a lot longer than that ...

... and people should stop bitching about the 200 USD they used to Become PRO: YOU WOULD HAVE MADE THAT DEPOSIT ANYWAY, AND WITH NO OTHER BENEFITS

[pavyracer]

they let mexican stallion and thaddeus run sportsbooks with SBR points...

key word 'let'

katstale might get a pass

There is a lot of bullshit they let go here that they don't let the average poster do. Other than that everyone gets the same benefits here for being a Pro according to them.

[dochall2u]

i'll be happy to unload some points if i ever get any.Just cannot wait for sportsbook to get back up so i can unload them for nothing.

[Powderguy]

LOL that'd be insta-ban

[JoeVig]

Why would this be worth the bother unless you are hard up for cash yourself.

Just like your average Joe would never go to that check cashing place down at the corner. But, they're still in business aren't they?

[agharah1]

I still think they should consider allowing US Players to get deposits into FanDuel. Its legal, and it could be used as a conduit for a US cash for points system.

[RudyRuetigger]

Look, here it is in common sense terms:

Lets theoretically say sbr sells points for $10 for every 100 points
You, a non American person they want to sell points to, instead buy your points for $8 every 100 points from american posters

And you don't see a problem with that? you are directly competing with sbr and in affect screwing them and their whole new plan

[BigDaddy]

we need to get rid of these scammers.

its hurts the honest guys around here.

[d2bets]

Bunch of whiners here.

Suggestion for gift cards: how about offering TICKETMASTER gift cards (750 points for $50)?

[The Bet Master]

Virtual Visas should work as well on sportsbooks.

[katstale]

Not all people will be welcome in my new Kats Kingdom. Just like AMEX doesn't take all applicants. But those who qualify won't need to wait around hoping cold pizza will arrive. They will get perks almost instantly. Kind of like the old days before things got upside down with ill advised laws.

I am even thinking about a rebate plan for those who want to fly down to Panama for vacations. If you have Platinum status in my kingdom, you would get a generous rebate for such a flight. I am still brainstorming this but some of you might come up with other perks for loyal serfs.

[trumpdown]

Just like your average Joe would never go to that check cashing place down at the corner. But, they're still in business aren't they?

Good point. Depending on exchange rate this could be quite lucrative.

[vegasinfom]

i would buy 1 k pts for 55 $$$.............anyone ?

[katstale]

i would buy 1 k pts for 55 $$$.............anyone ?

Now look, some of you will be banned from Kingdom if you try to make trouble. I said i was "benevolent" but I have my limits.

I am also considering paying some of my subjects for their IT expertise, etc. I think geeks should be rewarded and not shunned. Guys who are betting lunch money should not be spit on--they should be embraced. Who was it who said "pale skin" is not attractive? In my Kingdom, if you have the necessary membership fee, pale skin dudes will be treated equally.

So let it be written, so let it be done!!

[saints7011]

you gonna have to up the pay kid...

offers of 50 and 55 everywhere now...



dulas

[katstale]

you gonna have to up the pay kid...

offers of 50 and 55 everywhere now...



dulas

The question is not so much how much, but how fast and how reliable. I am sure Lenny of Cascade will pay you $70 for your 1k membership fee.

Membership has its priviliges. I will probably only have room for 50 members in my kingdom. Some of you have checked in early and that is smart. Reserving a room at the castle is a good thing to do.

[nosniboR11]

I don't think offering straight "cash" for points that are given to posters for free is the problem for US guys. SBR could do that legally. Yes the inhouse rules would need to be tweaked. There is really no difference in giving a guy a pizza or what the pizza cost. The problem there is logistics. The company has no US accounts and wants to stay away from cash processing inside the US. We may offer a cash option for large point redemptions as a matter of convenience,

at least keep trying to make the usa pros feel significant, hell we built this place and every offshore book basically

just stay at the drawing board is all we are really asking, something has to be done, I love this place , and really would hate to not be involved , but if the attacks by sbr on usa posters stays the same, with the attitude by some sbr staff stays the same , there will be no reason to stay a PRO.

[lakerboy]

at least keep trying to make the usa pros feel significant, hell we built this place and every offshore book basically

just stay at the drawing board is all we are really asking, something has to be done, i love this place , and really would hate to not be involved , but if the attacks by sbr on usa posters stays the same, with the attitude by some sbr staff stays the same , there will be no reason to stay a pro.

ur right. The american govt is trying to save usa gamblers from themselves. Americans arent good at gambling anyways.

[katstale]

at least keep trying to make the usa pros feel significant, hell we built this place and every offshore book basically

just stay at the drawing board is all we are really asking, something has to be done, I love this place , and really would hate to not be involved , but if the attacks by sbr on usa posters stays the same, with the attitude by some sbr staff stays the same , there will be no reason to stay a PRO.

You seem like a sensible guy. Accumulate a few more points and hopefully John will allow you to apply for membership. I might send all the members a really cool hat. (don't come whining if the hat is so cool the mailman steals it and it never arrives) I might also give all members in good standing a free sports pick. (don't come whining if the play loses--this a guaranteed 50/50 pick)

[horja1]

i would buy 1 k pts for 55 $$$.............anyone ?

60 here ... auction started

[TR88]

bunch of cry babies.......you cant complain about free stuff men.....

[horja1]

bunch of cry babies.......you cant complain about free stuff men.....

[The Bet Master]

I'd like to trade some points for 5Dimes cash when the new program cones August 1st