Sbr-eog Opinion

[Al Masters]

I'm a long time member here,infrequent poster, never posted at EOG,have lureked.

I play poker for a living and have been doing so for the last 5 years or so.

So i like to think i know a bit about different sites that have poker forums, i may be a member of like 10 of them, some i like more then others, some are great some suck the bag,my choice to go where i want, as it is anyones choice to post here or at EOG.

However i wouldn't be a member of any site that promotes any sort of scam site knowingly.

I found SBR hours before sending betus 4k, thus saving 4k+ aggrevation.

So i do realize my opinion is slightly tarnished by my experience.

One of the criteria's for any sort of spotrtsbook sites is to give info on safe and unsafe places to put your money.(critical info)

EOG clearly fails here!! with the Betus banner looking to lure it's next fish.

SO my question goes out to those of you who post at both joints? are you there for the entertainment?personal grudges against posters or mods here?

What i don't understand is how ,if you take your sportsbetting seriously can you support any site that promotes horse thieves!
in this case there is no doubt.....EOG PROMOTES BETUS.

Until that banner is removed...... WHICH WON'T HAPPEN..the $$$$ speak way louder then my little rant.

I can't see how anyone can support them knowing this!

[Tsoprano]

Yup, dont post there, bunch of crooks. I found Greek through SBR and it is an awesome spot, and im sure 5dimes, betjam, etc are all other truly good books to work with that they advertise.

[RageWizard]

I post at both sites now and I really only play the NFL, and a little on cycling which almost no one plays on.

I really like the heads up SBR gives for scam sites as far as the offshore books are concerned. At the same time, I know that the internet is full of scams and crooks so it is more of a buyer beware thing for me.

It took me almost 3 months of research to pick Pinnacle about 3 years ago, and when they kicked all of the people from the U.S. out, my kid set up a remote site from Windsor for me so I could continue playing with them. If you are the type of person to set up an account and then send off a couple of grand to a place that you haven't even heard of with out researching the place, you deserve what you get.

[JBC77]

Me personally...I don't feel the need to post at mutiple forums. I don't have that much time on my hands to be posting at two or three places.

If you look at which books some forums promote, books that have ripped customers off in the past, I think that about says it all.

For me, SBR provides entertainment, critical info on which books to play at and they are also paying for my weekend in Vegas. I think the choice of where to post is easy.....

For the most part.....the recent debates about where to post, stems from posters trying to get paid. I don't want to offend anyone but if your looking to get paid from posting on an intenet forum, or thats what you aspire to do with your life...might be a good time to look in the mirror and think about other employment options.

[SBR Lou]

I post at both sites now and I really only play the NFL, and a little on cycling which almost no one plays on.

I really like the heads up SBR gives for scam sites as far as the offshore books are concerned. At the same time, I know that the internet is full of scams and crooks so it is more of a buyer beware thing for me.

It took me almost 3 months of research to pick Pinnacle about 3 years ago, and when they kicked all of the people from the U.S. out, my kid set up a remote site from Windsor for me so I could continue playing with them. If you are the type of person to set up an account and then send off a couple of grand to a place that you haven't even heard of with out researching the place, you deserve what you get.

You suck. You're still playing with Pinny?

[JBC77]

I also think....too many paid posters can hurt a forum. It dilutes the contents and makes things seem fake. The majority of content should come from real people into sports and betting....not a bunch of actors trying to beef up post counts and make a few nickels in the process.

[Richkas]

Crazy belongs over there. We need to get rid of the squares.

[BadNina]

For me, I wander over there occasionally for entertainment purposes.

[SBR Lou]

Crazy belongs over there. We need to get rid of the squares.

Go F yourself.

Look at my tennis results this past week.

[Tsoprano]

For me, I wander over there occasionally for entertainment purposes.

Attention whore.

[BadNina]

Attention whore.

Being entertained makes my day go by a lot faster. You expect me to work all day while I am at the office??? Geesh...slave driver.

[Richkas]

Go F yourself.

Look at my tennis results this past week.

Big phucking deal, thats tennis.

[Shark79]

Crazy has been helping lots of us on the Tennis side of things and has also been following most of the Euro Tourney.

Richie ... I only post at SBR and have no issues with him ... hes good in my book.

[SBR_John]

Whats sad is they advertise a book that stole $50,000 from the eog owner a few years back! (SBG)

I always hoped these type of player sites would shut out and not promote books that scam players. These scambooks have horrible retention rates so they depend on new fish to fry. Take away their ability to advertise on player sites and they would not survive.

Plus, the player sites that promote the scambooks tend to dislike SBR thinking that we make them look bad by NOT promoting scambooks. The truth is there is no reason except for the ugliest level of greed that makes a player site schill for scambooks.

[RageWizard]

You suck. You're still playing with Pinny?

Well I haven't place a wager since the super bowl, so if something happened that I should know about please tell me. In a couple of weeks I will place my tour de france bet on as soon as I handicap the race, so I will see if there is any further decline in Pinny from their hay day a couple of years back.

[SBR Lou]

Well I haven't place a wager since the super bowl, so if something happened that I should know about please tell me. In a couple of weeks I will place my tour de france bet on as soon as I handicap the race, so I will see if there is any further decline in Pinny from their hay day a couple of years back.

Nothing happened I am just envious that you are able to play there, and a bit surprised you'd admit it publicly. Most US players would kill to find ways to get in there themselves, without having to go through an agent or whatever.

[RageWizard]

Nothing happened I am just envious that you are able to play there, and a bit surprised you'd admit it publicly. Most US players would kill to find ways to get in there themselves, without having to go through an agent or whatever.

Admit it? How they going to know. Plus the way I do it is perfectly legit as far as I know. It isn't difficult, it just helps to know some Canadians and to have a address in Canada that could be used.

[SBR Lou]

Admit it? How they going to know. Plus the way I do it is perfectly legit as far as I know. It isn't difficult, it just helps to know some Canadians and to have a address in Canada that could be used.

I'm not saying they'll find out, but I assumed some posters would hound you on PM for ways to help them get setup, etc. Yeah having Canadian friends would help. I hardly have any here in the States I have to branch out internationally.

[fiveteamer]

Pinnacle is great for horses.

[Shark79]

I'm not saying they'll find out, but I assumed some posters would hound you on PM for ways to help them get setup, etc. Yeah having Canadian friends would help. I hardly have any here in the States I have to branch out internationally.

If ya need a Pinny account ... theres no reason why you cant open it here in CR.

[THE SHRINK]

I find it very flattering that so many of you are observing EOG...

Thanks for noticing us...

It is appreciated...

THE SHRINK

[Richkas]

I find it very flattering that so many of you are observing EOG...

Thanks for noticing us...

It is appreciated...

THE SHRINK

[WonTooManyBets]

I find it very flattering that so many of you are observing EOG...

Thanks for noticing us...

It is appreciated...

THE SHRINK

Keep advertising GARBAGE books, fukkin pathetic.

[pavyracer]

I find it very flattering that so many of you are observing EOG...

Thanks for noticing us...

It is appreciated...

THE SHRINK

I hate to be mean to someone I don't know but what exactly does EOG offer to bettors? I am greatful that you stole mofome from us. We can now concentrate on taking the books to the poorhouse.

Thanks.

[THE SHRINK]

1-When SBR can't settle a dispute, EOG often gets asked to step in (I recently got a player paid back a five figure balance that SBR was unable to settle)...

http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsbooks-and-gambling-discussion/eog-gets-betus-pay-player-full-134527-3.html

2-Unlike John, who is retired, I take a much more hands on approach with the posters who visit EOG. I love to gamble and share my football and basketball picks. I have been known to win more than I lose and that's documented...

3-We have more female posters than virtually any other site if you happen to like women...

4-We tend to be more TOLERANT than most sites when it comes to FREE SPEECH, so we allow many different opinions and personalities to be expressed, even if it goes against our own personal beliefs...

5-We tend to exude POSITIVE energy and while we are somewhat controversial, we try not to be negative...

6-We treat our posters with respect and kindness...

Finally, I don't believe it's my right to tell other sites like SBR how to run its business affairs.

I believe SBR is an excellent site and other than EOG, this is the only forum I post on...

Best of Luck to all,

THE SHRINK

[WonTooManyBets]

7- Advertise books that steal thousands.

[Shark79]

I really dont know who "THE SHRINK" is ... but to go to the other street and post ... simply makes u wonder.

Actions speak for itself ... trying to rub in ur work at another forum ... lame.

[JBC77]

1-When SBR can't settle a dispute, EOG often gets asked to step in (I recently got a player paid back a five figure balance that SBR was unable to settle)...

http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsbooks-and-gambling-discussion/eog-gets-betus-pay-player-full-134527-3.html

2-Unlike John, who is retired, I take a much more hands on approach with the posters who visit EOG. I love to gamble and share my football and basketball picks. I have been known to win more than I lose and that's documented...

3-We have more female posters than virtually any other site if you happen to like women...

4-We tend to be more TOLERANT than most sites when it comes to FREE SPEECH, so we allow many different opinions and personalities to be expressed, even if it goes against our own personal beliefs...

5-We tend to exude POSITIVE energy and while we are somewhat controversial, we try not to be negative...

6-We treat our posters with respect and kindness...

Finally, I don't believe it's my right to tell other sites like SBR how to run its business affairs.

I believe SBR is an excellent site and other than EOG, this is the only forum I post on...

Best of Luck to all,

THE SHRINK

If you are here to set the record straight I would like to ask you some questions.

1. Does your site promote books that have, in the past, taken money from bettors who broke no rules? Fact of fiction?

2. Are you running sheets from your site in the U.S that have gamblers who are under the age of 18?

3. Will you advertise and find players for any book that cuts you a check or puts money in your pocket. Fact or fiction?

It seems like your the only one who can set the record straight....but these are some of the things said by long time posters who claim to know you. Whats your take on it?

[THE SHRINK]

If you are here to set the record straight I would like to ask you some questions.

1. Does your site promote books that have, in the past, taken money from bettors who broke no rules? Fact of fiction?

2. Are you running sheets from your site in the U.S that have gamblers who are under the age of 18?

3. Will you advertise and find players for any book that cuts you a check or puts money in your pocket. Fact or fiction?

It seems like your the only one who can set the record straight....but these are some of the things said by long time posters who claim to know you. Whats your take on it?

Here ya go...

I have a feeling some more questions might arise...

http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsbooks-and-gambling-discussion/setting-the-record-straight-140169.html#post1262670

THE SHRINK

[SBR Lou]

This whole thing is so stupid.

I don't know why people care so much where anyone else posts, or how anyone else runs their business. Let people make their livings how they want, post where they want, and just post where you want. Tired of posts about where other people post.

[WonTooManyBets]

Here ya go...

I have a feeling some more questions might arise...

http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsbooks-and-gambling-discussion/setting-the-record-straight-140169.html#post1262670

THE SHRINK

You just want people to sign up at EOG and reply to your post, not gunna happen!

[WonTooManyBets]

However, I would like to know why you promote sites like cascade and oddsmaker?

"There just aren't enough solid books around to help pay the bills. Gamblers are free to say whetever they wish about any of our sponsors throughout or forums without the threads being edited or removed. No one is immune, period..."

So as long as your getting paid you don't care that your members get screwed, great news.

[THE SHRINK]

This whole thing is so stupid.

I don't know why people care so much where anyone else posts, or how anyone else runs their business. Let people make their livings how they want, post where they want, and just post where you want. Tired of posts about where other people post.

agreed....

[Justin7]

Shrink,

Everyone appreciates efforts that any site use to get players paid. However, on this BetUS dispute, I cannot say who threw the "deciding blow" to get BetUS to pay. I was personally involved in many discussions with BetUS. We had given them an ultimatum - pay, or be downgraded. A day after we did that, they paid the player

When I handle a dispute, it often takes time. I make sure I have all the facts, and understand the concerns of both parties. Getting all the details and wading through the crap takes longer than jumping the gun, but provides better long-term results.

I was a bit surprised when you "took credit" for the BetUS resolution, but I said nothing. The player got paid. But now you come here, and talk about me being unable to resolve disputes with BetUS... I have a good line of communication with BetUS, and have no unresolved complaints with them. There might be cases where SBR cannot help a player, but I don't think this was one of them.

[jjgold]

EOG is bad, Shrink is a thief

I have been saying this for years