Ok, so I just started out with a sportsbook last Fall and it's a D-rated book that (knock on wood) has paid out every time, but has slow paid me. I'm ready to switch out and join a new book. My question is whether it should be BetJamaica or 5dimes. I've narrowed it down to those two. I'm not a pro, I bet every now and then on what I deem "sure-things" in College Football, the NFL, the NBA, or horse racing/NHL (in that order). I just wanted your opinions on whether or not it made a difference and what you'd recommend. Any feedback at all is greatly appreciated. Thanks, in advance!
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Betjam in my book best for rec players IMOComment -
TheGreekComment -
5dimes more wagering options, payouts both a breeze and secure. Overall I think 5D is a better book regardless of their customer service which could probably improve. Bet jam better if you're a bonus guy.Comment -
Definitely not a bonus guy. Hate all the rollover, no better than -200, and no parlay rules. I just mean overall ease of use (deposits/withdrawals, customer service, odds/betting options).Comment -
Go with 5d then. Customer service isn't awful, just nothing great. Deposit wise you're looking at **/**, E-check (14 day hold, $300 limit to start). Payouts by check, 1 free one per month ($500+) otherwise $30 fee by courier. The wagering options/reduced juice are awesome though.Originally posted by TheSensationComment -
I started with Sportsbook too before I came on this site all pissed off, was informed about Greek, Betjam, and 5dimes, went with Thegreek.com. SOLID book!!Originally posted by TheSensation
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my buddy turned me on to sportsbook and vouched for it. Turned out that he loses tons and that's why it's fine for him (great place to deposit his money, doesn't ever have to worry about withdrawing any cash ever). I come on to this forum and realize what a shit book it is (after I've been slowed paid on 4 figure checks repeatedly). So basically it's between the greek and 5dimes now. I have one more check coming from sportsbook (i'm praying that it gets here) before I sign up at a book for college football season (i forgot to add MLB games to stuff I bet on). Again, thanks so much for the advice, guys, it's greatly appreciated.Comment -
No prob. Greek is better for football openers, but if you're somewhat of an exotic type bettor etc you'd enjoy 5D more. I honestly suggest you start football with some cash in both.
Matchbook is another good out to have (exchange), but ultimately if forced to choose you can't go wrong with the aforementioned two.Comment -
I would recommend Betonline with their 105 juice. They paid pretty fast when I last checked but haven't played with them since September.Comment -
Sportsbook.com should be changed to Blackhole.scam - great deposit book, but rare it spits back rewards earned.Originally posted by TheSensation
I'd go with Greek, ive never tryed 5dimes, so not taking anything away from them, but Greek is as simple as it gets, and a flawless book. Count on a check within 2-3 days. Sure 5dimes is just as quick, but speaking from experience.Comment -
Originally posted by Tsoprano
You know what, I think I will try both. I really don't care about bonuses, after sportsbook.com I'm pretty much willing to try out anything (as long as someone from here vouches for it) for at least a couple of months before I decide on something for the long run. Football openers are important, but I definitely want the exotic option. I really appreciate the help, especially the after all the hand-wringing I've gone thru the past 9 months waiting on checks. Seriously, thanks for the advice. I'm glad my buddy helped me out on a place that did pay, but I definitely want to spend my money on a place that's more reliable that where I've got my money now.Comment -
Both 5Dimes and BetJamaica fine selections and you can't go wrong with either one actually IMHOO. So let me break them both down for you in order for you to choose one or the other.
5Dimes is the way to go for baseball if your a recreational player that bets nickels, and haven't had your limits cut. But just watch out for those delays.
They have no outstanding complaints or processing issues levied against them at this time. Not to mention they offer some pretty good payment solutions for U.S. players (Echecks most notably 300 max./14 day hold). Plus they offer one free fedex payout per month that you will usually get within about 3-5 business days.
The bonus they offer for new customers is a 50% free play with a 5x rollover, and 20% reload bonuses.
They use the ASI software (Which is nice IMO), not to mention the fact that [iSBRFORUM]5Dimes[/iSBRFORUM] has a couple of mirror sites, which helps during the down times:
propbet.com
www2.5dimes.com
Did I mention nickel overnight lines (till 8am est), and offers a lot of prop wagering options.
Here is the vig breakdowns 5Dimes, and a few of the other wagering options they have to offer:
.10 up to -176
.15 up to -201
.20 up to -266
.25 up to -280
.30 up to -346
.35 up to -361
.40 up to -386
.45 up to -421
.50 up to -461
Overnight Lines: Yes *See Nickel Lines Chart Below
Reverse Run Lines: Yes
5-inning lines: Yes: RLs, MLs & Totals
Reduced Juice Totals: Yes**
Reduced Juice RLs: Yes**
Grand Salami Totals: Yes
Team Totals: Yes
Overnight Nickel Lines Chart
.05 up to -162
.06 up to -165
.07 up to -193
.08 up to -196
.09 up to -198
.10 up to -251
.11 up to -253
.12 up to -255
.13 up to -257
.14 up to -258
.15 up to -266
.16 up to -270
.17 up to -273
.18 up to -276
.19 up to -278
.20 up to -310
The one complaint I do have against them though. I don't like the fact that they always have problems grading their prop bets. They are notorious for mis-grading those thing and their rules for those seem to have a very gray area IMHOO.
BetJamaica, part of the TheGreek family of books and use the ASI software, which I feel is pretty nice overall.
BetJamaica (SBR Rated A+) is more of a recreation book and does offer nice reload bonuses (10 or 20% reup bonuses/$500 max, with a 4x's rollover), however since they are a recreational book they could cut your limits if your chasing steam and or other things of that nature.
Their banking options for U.S. players have actually improved some over the last few months, because they are now offering Echecks (which is very nice feature these days, but info required to be faxed). Not to mention they do free book-to-book transfers ($500 min) with: TheGreek, Legendz, Pinnacle, 5Dimes and BookMaker and soon Wsex (note: Bookmaker will charge you incoming fees).
The payouts are very prompt really for overnight checks (3-5 business days), and the withdraw fees are actually quite reasonable if you exceed the 1 free payout via fedex per calender month (min. $200/$35 flat fee if you exceed the freebie).
Another thing I should make mention of since we have seen some DDos attacks this weekend is that they have a couple of mirror sites for emergency purposes.
BetJamaica:
They also are now offering an online chat service which is always a nice feature
The lines they offer are very competitive with most other books IMO, and the use a dimeline up to -190 in baseball. Which I feel is great!
Here is the baseball vig breakdown and betting options they will be offering this 2008 baseball season.
.10 up to -190
.13 up to -195
.15 up to -200
.18 up to -205
.20 up to -240
.25 up to -250
.30 up to -280
.35 up to -290
.40 up to -300
.45 up to -310
.50 up to -320
Overnight Lines: Yes
Reverse Run Lines: Yes
5-inning lines: Yes
Reduced Juice Totals: No
Grand Salami Totals: Yes
Team Totals: No
The drawbacks I do have about [iSBRFORUM]BetJamaica[/iSBRFORUM] is they only accept U.S. currenciesComment -
Bet jamaica is a much better and way more respected book.Comment -
I think 5 Dimes is better myself. Usually cheaper juice in MLB and ALWAYS cheaper juice in Foots/Hoops, and they have tons of alternate lines.Comment -
I have used all 3 (5 dimes, betonline, and betjamaica).....and each is a little better than the others in some areas, not as good in others...here is what I mean:
5 dimes) getting money on their was the hardest part for me, as I wanted to use a US Credit Card (which was rejected and are no longer taken) and then moved to phone cards (which apparently was removed only a few weeks ago as an option). Therefore, I placed money via phone cards (paid by Credit Card) into Betjamaica, rolled over the amount i put in (500$) and then was able to quickly (within 1/2 hr or so) transfer the entire balance into my 5 dimes account (after speaking to a polite customer rep. from bet jamaica who made the transaction occur seamlessly)... 5 dimes has THE BEST wagering options for baseball, as they have ML, -1.5 and -2.5 RL for BOTH TEAMS (I can't find that anywhere else), as well as 2 run Over/Under (example: if O/U is 8, you can bet on it anywhere from 7 to 9, possibly higher/lower as well)....i have bet up to 500/1000 on various wagers, recently had a VERY good night and have had no problems with payouts (received a 3k check 2 months ago within 3 business days for free, get 1 free payout each calender month I believe)....customer service is fine, so overall I would recommend this book THE MOST
BetJamaica: This book was easy to get money onto (used a credit card to purchase phone cards, I am not sure if that option is still available), money was there almost instantaneously, was betting within minutes....customer service was FANTASTIC, as I rolled over my $$$ deposited and asked it to be transferred out to 5 dimes, they were very polite and efficient, couldn't have asked for a smoother transaction...lines are decent, wagering options not nearly as many as 5 dimes, as they don't offer reverse 2.5 RL or normal 2.5 RL, as well as different O/U totals....only bet up to 300$ per game so I don't know about their limits, but a very VERY solid book in my humble opinion....
BETONLINE: by far the EASIEST to get money onto ("bought" phone cards via my credit card on the phone, no charge to do so, money was in my account within 5 minutes)...customer service was EXCEPTIONAL, as I pestered them with a variety of questions and they politely answered all of them with excellent service and promptness....now ONE PROBLEM is that they do not do ANY SORT OF TRANSFER with any other book, AT ALL...so remember that.....lines are ok at best, again no -1.5 Reverse line or either -2.5 RL, normal O/U options.....futures are eh at best, props are kinda weak in my opinion...I HAVE NEVER REQUESTED A PAYOUT from them but from what I hear they cost 35$ EACH TIME (OUCH!!!!!) and take a few days....so hopefully I will find out soon.....best of luck in picking a book, and hope this little overview helped!!!Comment -
Great post MiamiBoy, although funding 5 Dimes through ************* is easy too.Comment -
had no idea about *************, glad to hear about it now though!Comment -
I love 5 dimes for the wagering options and the reduced lines,sort of took the place of pinnacle for many americans like me and I like betjam for the lightning fast payouts.
another one you might try is 2betdsi,solid A book. affiliated with betcris and they have 2nd half baseball lines,something 5dimes does not
cheersComment -
5Dimes is the better book at first because of:
reduced juice
better props
way more sports (tennis,soccer,autos,golf,MMA,etc)
When they cut your limits(AND THEY WILL) you can do a book transfer to Jamaica.Comment -
I have both BetJamaica and 5dimes accounts and so far I prefer BetJamaica.Comment -
5 Dimes is not real professional and have no clue how solid they are financiallyComment -
************* is easy but 5Dimes does not pickup any of the fees for this method so I do not use it. They seem to credit your fees every other method i have tried there so I found it strange they wouldn't for *************.Originally posted by LT ProfitsComment -
Especially after Miamiboy's info, I think that this is what I'm gonna do for sure. Expecting a 700 check from sportsbook.com sometime (cross your fingers in the next 2-3 weeks, like they promise), 400 of which I'm gonna throw into 5Dimes and get the max .50x bonus.Originally posted by Frank
How quickly/often do they cut limits? That seems shitty, but if I can transfer it to betjam, which I would anyway for football season, then it doesn't seem likes a big deal the way you guys mention it.
Thanks tons. I'm so effing glad I found this site. If I stayed at sportsbook for years out of ignorance I'd have hung myself.Comment -
is that Tony guy still involved with 5 dimes?Comment -
Yes fiveteamer, God is still there.Comment -
Phuck them both. Greek all the way!Comment -
Greek is horrible for baseball.Comment -
Tony can eat a big fat dick. #1 reason why I don't pay there.Comment -
Not the best lines but consistent payouts and reliable.Originally posted by LT ProfitsComment -
I have them both. 5DIMES FOR PROPS BUT BETJAM HAS QUICKER PAY-OUTSComment -
if you go to 5 dimes,find a book like dsi or one that has 2nd half baseball lines.it can be a real life saver.5dimes doesnt have them
if you go with dsi as an out,ask for canada mike at dsi and he will hook you up with 40% reload bonuses
cheersComment -
BOL charges too damn much for withdrawals/payouts. They sent me 1000 dollars about 6 weeks ago. Charged me 50 bones to do it. Never again. I am with 5D, I love their parlays on NFL regular season wins. A keeper just because of that. Lots of lines. I am going to use BetJam this fall, no info on them yet. Good luck.Comment -
It does suck that BOL charges $50 for fedex checks and doesn't offer any book-to-book transfer options with any books, but there money is good. Thats what really matter to me. Anyways, I feel you will be very satisfied playing at BetJamaica this fall sir. They are a top tier book in everyones opinion.
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Does anyone know what happened to Prima Pin. It was the only way I could ever put money in my account with 5dimes or betJamacia. Now hey just stopped doing it? Any info would be great.Comment
