Big Weekend.....Big Brown???

[Cloak & Dagger]

2/5???

to do something no horse has done in 30 years??

anyone that bets him is asking to get stung

my advice...bet some $2 win tickets at a off track facility and put them on ebay after the race...if he wins

[pokernut9999]

Like to have a ticket for keepsakes if he wins.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Like to have a ticket for keepsakes if he wins.

thats what im saying....buy a few....and stick em on ebay

should be interesting to see of they sell

but betting the race makes no sense at all

I watched victory gallop pick real quiet

and I watched birdstone pick smarty jones

people have it written in stone already.....but aside from the history...think about the MONEY the track will make if he loses

[EaglesPhan36]

I think the only way to make money off Big Brown is using him in the exotics. I'm probably backing Denis The Cork again.

[pokernut9999]

Make more money if he wins , will be a ton of $2 tickets that dont get cashed. Same as when Secrateriat (sp) won.

[Cloak & Dagger]

I think the only way to make money off Big Brown is using him in the exotics. I'm probably backing Denis The Cork again.

yeah....thats right.....exoitcs is the way to go

but I just cant see betting anything over $20 on the race

worst possible spot to be 2/5 morning line

Make more money if he wins , will be a ton of $2 tickets that dont get cashed. Same as when Secrateriat (sp) won.

I dont know about that....you know the big wigs are comin out to lay some serious wood on this horse

they see it as free money

[Wheell]

Bet online, get much better odds on or against him.

[pokernut9999]

yeah....thats right.....exoitcs is the way to go

but I just cant see betting anything over $20 on the race

worst possible spot to be 2/5 morning line

I dont know about that....you know the big wigs are comin out to lay some serious wood on this horse

they see it as free money

Not to win since place and show will pay the same.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Bet online, get much better odds on or against him.

yeah Im sure you could find some prop online that they wouldnt offer in a casino

Im planning on being in reno saturday...at the old hilton hotel...its called grand sierra now or something....but it is the biggest sportsbook in reno and tahoe

Not to win since place and show will pay the same.

if he is 2/5 to win....what...thats like $2.60?

the place and show will be $2.10

$100,000 on a horse that pays $2.60.....how much is that....free money?

[Wheell]

Should be able to get some decent action there too!

[fiveteamer]

Casino Drive can win this. 4/1 would be nice.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Casino Drive can win this. 4/1 would be nice.

you know what kent D said on a radio show the other day?

he said that the trainer of casino drive was japanese...and only enters his horses in perfect spots

they showed a backtrack on TVG of him winning at belmont going the distance with kent D ironically...horse looked good...never felt the whip

[pokernut9999]

yeah Im sure you could find some prop online that they wouldnt offer in a casino

Im planning on being in reno saturday...at the old hilton hotel...its called grand sierra now or something....but it is the biggest sportsbook in reno and tahoe



if he is 2/5 to win....what...thats like $2.60?

the place and show will be $2.10

$100,000 on a horse that pays $2.60.....how much is that....free money?

2/5 would pay $2.80 I just dont think he will go off at 2/5 though. Believe last race he paid $2.40 $2.60 $2.40

[Wheell]

Casino Drive has been off form lately as well. I think if both are healthy Big Brown destroys Casino Drive. If not, it is anyones race.

[fiveteamer]

Big Brown is going to have to come further off the pace than he's had to in the past. Jazil, Rags to Riches and Casino Drive. It can happen. I see the race setting up perfectly for Casino Drive.

[Cloak & Dagger]

2/5 would pay $2.80 I just dont think he will go off at 2/5 though. Believe last race he paid $2.40 $2.60 $2.40

wow...that would be something else to see a horse go off at 1/5 in the final leg of the triple crown...when a horse hasent won it in 30 years

Ima make sure to tell the waitress to bring me patrone for this event

guess ill have to tip her good for some real tequila

[pokernut9999]

Casino Drive has been off form lately as well. I think if both are healthy Big Brown destroys Casino Drive. If not, it is anyones race.

Off form only raced twice in his life.

[fiveteamer]

Casino Drive has been off form lately as well. I think if both are healthy Big Brown destroys Casino Drive. If not, it is anyones race.

He's 2-2. Combined margin of victory is about 17 lengths.

[Wheell]

Pokernut: In work outs. He's looked pretty bad.

[Cloak & Dagger]

2/5 would pay $2.80 I just dont think he will go off at 2/5 though. Believe last race he paid $2.40 $2.60 $2.40

oh man....the sharps wouldnt be on the win...you were dead on with that

[Wheell]

Can horses sand bag? Don't know if Casino Drive is trying to mess with Big Browns mind.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Can horses sand bag? Don't know if Casino Drive is trying to mess with Big Browns mind.

lol.....japanese trainer bro

[fiveteamer]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2008/06/03/2008-06-03_casino_drive_a_friend_to_children.html

The methods of this training are unconventional - Casino Drive generally walks for about 45 minutes, puts in a moderate run, and walks for another 45 minutes. It appears less rigorous than other horses' workouts, but Tada says there is a subtle process rooted in European methods.

"People think we're just walking, but it is a fast walk," he said. "There is tension and precision. It warms up his heart, blood and mind."

[Wheell]

Yeah but horses just speak horse.

[pokernut9999]

Only 2 other horses have ever won first 2 legs by over 4.5 lengths and they both won Triple Crown. Big Brown will crush this field Saturday. He had a 114 Beyer last race and was pulled on hard on backstretch to slow him down and then eased way before the wire.

[Wheell]

He just walks around huh? Sounds like an American style of exercise.

[Cloak & Dagger]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo..._children.html

The methods of this training are unconventional - Casino Drive generally walks for about 45 minutes, puts in a moderate run, and walks for another 45 minutes. It appears less rigorous than other horses' workouts, but Tada says there is a subtle process rooted in European methods.

"People think we're just walking, but it is a fast walk," he said. "There is tension and precision. It warms up his heart, blood and mind."

they set casino drive at 7/2....that tells me the linesmaker thinks he has a shot

if they set it at 5-1 or higher...that would be a different story

Only 2 other horses have ever won first 2 legs by over 4.5 lengths and they both won Triple Crown. Big Brown will crush this field Saturday. He had a 114 Beyer last race and was pulled on hard on backstretch to slow him down and then eased way before the wire.

that was before he got a crack in his foot??

[fiveteamer]

Sat 6/7 Will Big Brown win Belmont by 4½ lengths or more?
03:00 PM 31 Yes +137


Thats the bet for you if you think he'll crush'm.

[pokernut9999]

He just walks around huh? Sounds like an American style of exercise.

Mine is to walk dog, go to bathroom or kitchen


Forgot the long walk to mailbox.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Sat 6/7 Will Big Brown win Belmont by 4½ lengths or more?
03:00 PM 31 Yes +137


Thats the bet for you if you think he'll crush'm.

umm....why do you think its +money....cmon now...books arent trying to give away money are they?

[pokernut9999]

He has had cracks 2 other times , it will not affect him.

[Cloak & Dagger]

He has had cracks 2 other times , it will not affect him.

if he had cracks in the derby and preakness...and still crushed like that??

I would say this horse is on the BEST drugs money can buy

some super steroid

are you saying he had cracks in his feet the last 2 races?

[pokernut9999]

Not last 2 races no , but it is a minor thing. Horses have won with these cracks.

[fiveteamer]

I'm officially on Casino Drive.

[Wheell]

Dunno if he had cracks on his feet last two races but I can see making Casino Drive 7-2 doesn't mean anything since not only are you not allowing someone to bet against him with a slight vig, you aren't even letting people bet on him at those odds. They are taking bets as part of a win pool. Ignore moring line odds, they aren't going to help you make money.