Is GW Bush Our First "Female" President?

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  • ritehook
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    • 08-12-06
    • 2244

    #1
    Is GW Bush Our First "Female" President?
    I advance this proposition here - not to tittilate or in any act of blind partisan fury - but to counter the idea that Bush is some kind of super-macho cowboy, takin' names and kickin' butt.

    The Bush As Hard Charging Cowboy is an idea that many in Europe believe, with disgust, is what GW is all about.

    But --- if Bush is a cowboy it's likely of the Brokeback Mountain variety.

    All the "cowboy" type leaders of world history have been macho males, risk-takers who may have on occcasion sought counsel, but never, never, never let some "grey eminence" behind the scenes do thier thinking and acting for them.

    Can anyone who knows even a lttle history imagine for a second that Alexander, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, would have some pompous sh-tass like a Cheney pulling the strings behind the curtains?

    Or worship the military leader of another country like an adolescent girl nursing her first crush?

    Or running around like a imbecile child, affirming "I'm the Decider?"

    Saturday Night Live once did a skit which had GW sitting in Cheney's lap, being praised and schooled, as Svengali would school and hypnotize the delicate songstress Trilby.

    After the Iraq war commenced Congress wanted to call Bush t to testify before them, as to the accuracy of the information he'd been peddling regarding Iraq's WMDs.

    Georgie asked them if he could bring Cheney along with him.

    Ths is the Wild Cowboy? The Bullrusher? The Decider?

    Unlike his opponent in '04, who did serve in Vietnam combat evn tho he had the connections to get a deferment, GW became an unofficial draft dodger, getting a soft assignment in the then largely non-combative Nat'l Guard, and compounding the deed by failing to show at some meetings.

    Bush, tho, seems very impressed by men of action. True "deciders" . . .

    Several reports on his first trip to Israel indicate that he spent a lot of time, alone, in the company of war hero (and war criminal) Ariel Sharon, then the leader of Israel.

    And was in awe of the great general. Swept off his feet, so to speak. 4000+ plus U.S. dead, several hundred thou Iraqis, a near runaway inflation and a mountainous national debt ---- because our cowgirl president had a man-crush on a Jewish general?

    Schwatzeneggar once called some of his political opponents "girly-men."

    GWB surely must also qualify for that designation. The posturing in a bomber jacket on the deck of the ship and declaring, like the conquering heroes he so admired, "mission accomplished."

    A girly-man's dream come true.

    From real men, like the fighting general (and compulsive ladies man) George Washington; and Hamilton, another lady-killer who could have easily refused the Burr duel, but choose to face death rather than stain his honor; Jefferson; Franklin . . .

    Men. Or mensch, as those who speak yiddish would say. Pillars of manliness and virtue.

    To this preposterous walking and breathing insult to those heroes of our national founding.

    A frikkin' girly-man, heart fluttering like a fruitcake in the presence of men of action, even if not of this land,

    A bad chapter in our history? Or something deeper, a glimpse into the debacles to come? The opening chapter of The Fall of the American Empire - a Cowboy Girly-Man is Twice Elected President.
  • TeamPlayer
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-19-08
    • 634

    #2
    He's just a former alcoholic who can't speak english properly and who dodged the draft and had a super rich father who bought him a baseball team.
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    • mofome
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-19-07
      • 13003

      #3
      Originally posted by TeamPlayer
      He's just a former alcoholic who can't speak english properly and who dodged the draft and had a super rich father who bought him a baseball team.

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      • guitarjosh
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-25-07
        • 5809

        #4
        Originally posted by TeamPlayer
        He's just a former alcoholic who can't speak english properly and who dodged the draft and had a super rich father who bought him a baseball team.
        I don't think it's a bad thing that Bush, Quayle, or Clinton dodged the draft.
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        • MonkeyF0cker
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 06-12-07
          • 12144

          #5
          Originally posted by guitarjosh
          I don't think it's a bad thing that Bush, Quayle, or Clinton dodged the draft.
          Yeah nothing wrong with our leaders ducking out of their responsibilities as citizens of this country and then in turn sending others out to die for their own inept and misguided warfare. How could you possibly see anything wrong with that?
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          • ms61853
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            • 04-10-07
            • 731

            #6
            History Will Redeem Bush

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            • ritehook
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              • 08-12-06
              • 2244

              #7
              Originally posted by ms61853
              The author of the link you cite is Ed Koch,former NY City mayor. Koch, a Democrat and ethnic Jew, like Sen Joe Lieberman, supports Bush because of Georgie's slavish support of Israel.

              A support that is detrimental to America's interests in the region, and in the world. That fierce nationalists for Israel would support their obedient girly-man is not surprising.

              History will rank GW in the same way it ranks rulers like the degenerate Roman emperor Nero. Or Caligula, who named his horse a proconsul. Georgie named a horse's ass as his proconsul
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              • ritehook
                SBR MVP
                • 08-12-06
                • 2244

                #8
                The machiavellian rulers of Israel have extensive dossiers on all American politicians, their political positions, and their personal likes and dislikes, including their sexual prefences.

                Count on it that they knew all about Senator Craig's men's room exploits, before it burst into the headlines.

                The Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith has been called the greatest spy agency on the globe.

                The information they gather becomes tools of blackmail. (And for the citizens of Moronia who will stand up and parrot that all foreign govts have such agencies in America --- all may wish to, but they don't have the infrastructure to even come close. ADL has compromised many local and state police depts, and likely federal ones as well.)

                In the major, heavily Jewish populated East Coast states, it is mandatory for a candidate for high office to put a visit to Israel high on his list of first things to do. (Usually these junkets are paid for by the Anti Defamation League.)

                This, despite the fact that far more of the ciitizens of those states are of Italian or Irish ethnicity than Jewish.

                A former NJ governor, who appeared to the morons as a happily married man, was a raging closet gay.

                During one of his obligatory visits to the sacred land of Israel, he was introduced to a minor Isreali bureaucrat. The two became lovers. Anyone who thinks that was unplanned also believes that pro wrestling is an honest sport.

                When the gay gent won the NJ governship, he made his secret Israeli boyfriend the head of the NJ Dept of Homeland Security.

                A position through which some sensitive information, including classified secrets, would flow.

                Despite much criticism, the gay gov (still keeping it all a big secret, and posing publicly with wife and child) kept his boyfriend in the job.

                Then, the gov was outed, and resigned in disgrace.

                Bad luck for the Isreali government. Wow, if the gov had been able to keep it all a secret, and one day rose to the presidency --- well, by G-d, they would have had someone in the Oval Office who would be their virtual slave, always fearing exposure.

                Someone, in fact, just like - well - just like George W Bush.

                Hmmmm ........
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                • BuddyBear
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 7233

                  #9
                  Call him whatever you wish, but he is without doubt the worst presdient in U.S. history and should be sent straight to the Hague when his term in office expires and be tried for war crimes against humanity and put in jail and then throw the key out.....
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                  • JRS21386
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                    • 04-13-08
                    • 2213

                    #10
                    I guarantee you History will see him as a good president.. After you see what's going to happen after he leaves office.. You will understand his reasoning..
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                    • ritehook
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                      • 08-12-06
                      • 2244

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                      Call him whatever you wish, but he is without doubt the worst presdient in U.S. history and should be sent straight to the Hague when his term in office expires and be tried for war crimes against humanity and put in jail and then throw the key out.....
                      I'd add treason to the list of charges, and have him tried by an American court.

                      Going to war solely on behalf of the interest of a foreign govt, even one proclaimed far and wide to be "friendly," is in fact treason - even tho "none dare call it treason."

                      But as for the architects of the crime of Iraq, the Perles, Feiths, Wolfowitzes et al, I'd simply repatriate them to the homeland of their heart, and put the whole sorry chapter in the rear view mirror, one of those bizarre happenings that occur in the life of both an individual and a nation.

                      I just don't think it's going to be that easy . . .
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                      • ritehook
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                        • 08-12-06
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by guitarjosh
                        I don't think it's a bad thing that Bush, Quayle, or Clinton dodged the draft.
                        Agree. I would never advise anyone of military service age to join the armed forces, so as to fight senseless wars that harm our land rather than the reverse.

                        But . . . to dodge, and then to become Commander in Chief and send other people into combat and the concomitant death and dismembering they'll endure ---- absolutely unforgivable.
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                        • BuddyBear
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 7233

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ritehook
                          I'd add treason to the list of charges, and have him tried by an American court.

                          Going to war solely on behalf of the interest of a foreign govt, even one proclaimed far and wide to be "friendly," is in fact treason - even tho "none dare call it treason."

                          But as for the architects of the crime of Iraq, the Perles, Feiths, Wolfowitzes et al, I'd simply repatriate them to the homeland of their heart, and put the whole sorry chapter in the rear view mirror, one of those bizarre happenings that occur in the life of both an individual and a nation.

                          I just don't think it's going to be that easy . . .

                          While I don't disagree all that much, I do think it is a little bit more complicated than that. Israel probably served as one of the primary pretexts per se. It's a lot easier to trick the American public and say..."our good friend Israel is in danger so we should...." Americans will go for that every time. However, other considerations factored in and may have been even more important such as the military complex industry, the oil industry, and other private sector industries that benefited from a war.

                          The fact remains that the war was illegal, it is a disaster with no end in sight, and that none of the goals have been accomplished. GWB and his administration will go down as the worst in history and all of them should be tried for war crimes and thrown in jail: Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, etc...
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                          • ms61853
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                            • 04-10-07
                            • 731

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BuddyBear
                            Call him whatever you wish, but he is without doubt the worst presdient in U.S. history and should be sent straight to the Hague when his term in office expires and be tried for war crimes against humanity and put in jail and then throw the key out.....
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                            • ritehook
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-12-06
                              • 2244

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BuddyBear
                              While I don't disagree all that much, I do think it is a little bit more complicated than that. Israel probably served as one of the primary pretexts per se. It's a lot easier to trick the American public and say..."our good friend Israel is in danger so we should...." Americans will go for that every time. However, other considerations factored in and may have been even more important such as the military complex industry, the oil industry, and other private sector industries that benefited from a war.

                              The fact remains that the war was illegal, it is a disaster with no end in sight, and that none of the goals have been accomplished. GWB and his administration will go down as the worst in history and all of them should be tried for war crimes and thrown in jail: Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, etc...
                              I'll acknowledge other factors played a part - including GWs wish to outshine Dad, and "get rid" of Saddam.

                              The interests of Big Oil in the Iraqi fiasco seem murky. It may have had a part, Union Oil in particular, but I've seen nothing to indicate that Big Oil was pressing hard for the invasion.

                              The MIC, to be sure, is a major force in America, as Eisenhower warned in his farewell address. (Tho his speechwriter originally had it as "the military-industrial-political complex" - Ike deleleted that as he didn't didn't want to offend the politicians)

                              However, the main engine of the fiasco was the neocon (read: Israeli nationalists) takeover of the Oval Office (Bush, Cheney) and of the Pentagon (Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith).

                              Many in the military, and in the CIA, vigorously opposed the war. Gen Zinni reports that he was accused of the hoary old charge of "antisemitism" because he questioned the propaganda leading up to the invasion.

                              Other high-ranking officers, both active and retired, saw it for what it was, and were in opposition. The recently fired opponent to coming war on Iran, Admiral Fallon, is another example.

                              Which is why I believe that another neocon presidency, like that of McCain, could lead to a break in the American tradition of no military interference in the direction of govt. Despite the grasping little generals like Petraeus, eager for advancement, the military is often the last refuge of any remaining national honor.

                              If our virtual enslavement to that machiavellian foreign land
                              is not soon ended it would not surprise me to one day see a real life scenario of "Seven Days in May" acted out. I don't think I'm the only one who sniffs a possible major backlash; and is one reason for interesting phenomena like "J Street", the pro-Israel but anti-warmonger new lobby on Capitol Hill. Just Newton's Third Law of Motion moving onto the national scene
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                              • guitarjosh
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-25-07
                                • 5809

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                Yeah nothing wrong with our leaders ducking out of their responsibilities as citizens of this country and then in turn sending others out to die for their own inept and misguided warfare. How could you possibly see anything wrong with that?
                                Originally posted by ritehook
                                Agree. I would never advise anyone of military service age to join the armed forces, so as to fight senseless wars that harm our land rather than the reverse.

                                But . . . to dodge, and then to become Commander in Chief and send other people into combat and the concomitant death and dismembering they'll endure ---- absolutely unforgivable.
                                Imagine you can go back 40 years and be in a fox hole during a fire fight in Viet Nam. You look to your right and see W holding an m-16 and a white phosphorus grenade. Do you feel safer with him there or would you prefer someone else to fight with while Bush is in a bar in Alabama?

                                Not everyone is cut out for the military.
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                                • TeamPlayer
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-19-08
                                  • 634

                                  #17
                                  Agreed. Bush should be in jail serving a life term for every american who died in Iraq for a war that was not necessary.

                                  And he should serve hundreds of thousands more life terms for all the Iraqis who have lost mothers, fathers, sons, daughters to the violence. I never imagined that life could be worse for Iraqis than it was under Saddam Hussein but Bush pulled it off. Life is more dangerous today for Iraqis than it was under Hussein.
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