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  • ritehook
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    • 08-12-06
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    #1
    Female of the Species -
    I enjoy Kipling's poems, but he is not considered among the top-ranked English langauge poets.

    But he was a master short story writer - his "Baa Baa, Black Sheep" is a classic tale of a warped childhood.

    This is one of his best know poems, "the female of the species is more deadly than the male."


    Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)
    The Female of the Species

    WHEN the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
    He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
    But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
    He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
    But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
    They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
    'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    Man's timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
    For the Woman that God gave him isn't his to give away;
    But when hunter meets with husbands, each confirms the other's tale—
    The female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,—
    Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
    Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
    To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.

    Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
    To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
    Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
    Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!

    But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
    Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
    And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
    The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.

    She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
    May not deal in doubt or pity—must not swerve for fact or jest.
    These be purely male diversions—not in these her honour dwells—
    She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.

    She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
    As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
    And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
    Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.

    She is wedded to convictions—in default of grosser ties;
    Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies!—
    He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
    Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.

    Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,
    Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,
    Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
    And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!

    So it comes that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
    With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
    Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
    To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands.

    And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
    Must command but may not govern—shall enthral but not enslave him.
    And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
    That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.
  • Robyn
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    • 02-05-08
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    #2
    The female of the species proves to be deadly in order to protect her offspring. What is to be said of a childless female?
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    • ritehook
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      • 08-12-06
      • 2244

      #3
      Originally posted by Robyn
      The female of the species proves to be deadly in order to protect her offspring. What is to be said of a childless female?
      Motherhood is the most extreme expression of the Will to Power in the human.

      Woman denied such, or who choose not to bear (like Jay Leno's feminist wife) often - I have noted - get into professions that give them power over children, like teachers or governesses.

      Others dote on animals.

      It is true that some, man-like, enjoy sex as an end. But that's not "natural," as the masculine sex drive begins and ends with intercourse. Nature has made the female to begin the sex experience with intercourse, and end it a year or two later with weaning of the child. Anyone who has been around pregnant women know that for most of them the experience is sensual.

      With the male, in general, his sex drive is centered between his legs. It cycle begins with foreplay and ends with ejaculation. Women, conversely, are immersed in sex from their necks to their legs.

      I'm cynical enough to believe that both modern feminism, and that of ancient times (Lysistrata, in Greek drama) is due mainly to the weakness of the male in the last centuries of a civilization. Women are the first ones to sniff out male decline. And so, with the mulitiplication of the viragos, feminism makes its appearance.

      (American poet Sylvia Plath has been made into a feminist hero. But she spent her tragically short life seeking a manly man, even a "fascist." Read her epochal poem "Daddy" for a slamdunk story of her journey, and her suicide shotly after.)

      The decline begins with the males, and their women suffer the biological consequences. And the American male, in the early 21st century, is in serious decline. Look at the Simple Simon they elected as president. The men of 1776 would have hauled out the lynch rope a long time ago.
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      • pico
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        • 04-05-07
        • 27321

        #4
        no wonder i am afraid to date women who has offsprings...just my basic instinct protecting me.
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        • ritehook
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          • 08-12-06
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          #5
          Even the most sex-centered woman, the ultimate swingers, usually tone down their amatory activities after childbirth.

          Every husband has noticed that his new-mother wife is not quite totally "his" anymore. A competitor has entered the scene. As nature intended.

          But Robyn asked a question, and, male-like, I turned it into a philosophical digression.

          I've known three heterosexual but childless women who were past the age of child-bearing.

          All said almost exactly the same thing about the missed experience. In fact, two - a relative and Hollywood actress of my acquaintance - said exactly the same thing: "I was stupid."

          The other, an ex-girlfriend from two years ago, said almost the same: "I was too busy, which means 'too dumb.'"

          All, therefore, felt a deep regret, an emptiness. Something that Nature had each month demanded but which they had denied . . . and then it was too late.

          So Robyn, you are if memory serves, now 34. That means that you have maybe 6 to 10 years to get the job done. That demanding Mom of us all, Mother Nature, will call insistently each month.

          She wants you to toss the pills. If you choose to ignore, please do not, in 2018, burden your friends with expressions of regret.
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          • BadNina
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-27-07
            • 10491

            #6
            I have always maintained that females are scary. I should know. I am one.
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            • The HG
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              • 11-01-06
              • 3566

              #7
              Originally posted by BadNina
              I have always maintained that females are scary. I should know. I am one.
              Would you describe the Female of the Species as "horny"?
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              • RageWizard
                SBR MVP
                • 09-01-06
                • 3008

                #8
                I like a female that likes trying to get pregnant alot, but enjoys not getting pregnant even more.
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                • Sportsgirl
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                  • 09-10-06
                  • 4493

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ritehook
                  Even the most sex-centered woman, the ultimate swingers, usually tone down their amatory activities after childbirth.

                  Every husband has noticed that his new-mother wife is not quite totally "his" anymore. A competitor has entered the scene. As nature intended.

                  But Robyn asked a question, and, male-like, I turned it into a philosophical digression.

                  I've known three heterosexual but childless women who were past the age of child-bearing.

                  All said almost exactly the same thing about the missed experience. In fact, two - a relative and Hollywood actress of my acquaintance - said exactly the same thing: "I was stupid."

                  The other, an ex-girlfriend from two years ago, said almost the same: "I was too busy, which means 'too dumb.'"

                  All, therefore, felt a deep regret, an emptiness. Something that Nature had each month demanded but which they had denied . . . and then it was too late.

                  So Robyn, you are if memory serves, now 34. That means that you have maybe 6 to 10 years to get the job done. That demanding Mom of us all, Mother Nature, will call insistently each month.

                  She wants you to toss the pills. If you choose to ignore, please do not, in 2018, burden your friends with expressions of regret.

                  I disagree with this completely. While some may have an "imagined" regret at not having children, most are correct in not pursuing the option of child-bearing as people, not just women, are far often too selfish and impatient to do the job of raising another human justice. While they may have a yearning for the "dream" of a child, they have no concept of the reality of it - and, I suspect, if hit with the reality, would trade it in for the childless existance their original instincts had in store for them. Far fewer people than you might imagine are either prepared for or willing to make the sacrifices necessary to be a good parent. And if you're not going to be good at it, even the best at it - would your child deserve less? - then why do it? So you don't have pangs of regret in your loneliness as you age? Not a good enough reason to bring a child into the world to be raised by selfish, overworking, crappy parents.
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                  • ritehook
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-12-06
                    • 2244

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BadNina
                    I have always maintained that females are scary. I should know. I am one.
                    jj, the eternal skeptic, has a dissenting view
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                    • BadNina
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                      • 11-27-07
                      • 10491

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The HG
                      Would you describe the Female of the Species as "horny"?
                      Sometimes
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                      • BadNina
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-27-07
                        • 10491

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ritehook
                        jj, the eternal skeptic, has a dissenting view
                        He should look at the preying mantis.
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                        • jackpot269
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                          • 09-24-07
                          • 12842

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RageWizard
                          I like a female that likes trying to get pregnant alot, but enjoys not getting pregnant even more.
                          I always said the fun is in the trying!!!
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                          • ritehook
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                            • 08-12-06
                            • 2244

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sportsgirl
                            I disagree with this completely. While some may have an "imagined" regret at not having children, most are correct in not pursuing the option of child-bearing as people, not just women, are far often too selfish and impatient to do the job of raising another human justice. While they may have a yearning for the "dream" of a child, they have no concept of the reality of it - and, I suspect, if hit with the reality, would trade it in for the childless existance their original instincts had in store for them. Far fewer people than you might imagine are either prepared for or willing to make the sacrifices necessary to be a good parent. And if you're not going to be good at it, even the best at it - would your child deserve less? - then why do it? So you don't have pangs of regret in your loneliness as you age? Not a good enough reason to bring a child into the world to be raised by selfish, overworking, crappy parents.
                            Even among animals there are good mothers and bad ones. Anyone who has watched a number of canine or feline mothers can see the differences in concern. and in nurturing abilities.

                            Still, the need is primal. Which is why many modern women, including swinging showbiz and party types, very "busy" women, are making sure they have the experience. Even if they get a wetnurse or governess to do their job for them, after the birth.

                            Nature is profligate. Always producing more than is needed. And yes, in "natural" conditions the excess are buried, the "fittest" survive. But the instinct remains, much much stronger than the fragile "civilizations" we build to permit the viability of denial.
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                            • ritehook
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-12-06
                              • 2244

                              #15
                              Below is the famous poem, "Daddy," by Sylvia Plath, one of the top American poets of the 20th century.

                              Feminist activists have tried to make a hero and saint out of Plath. But her life, as she admitted in her diaries, were centered on men and children. Unable to conceive with her husband, a famous English poet and the "man in black with a meinkampf look" in the poem) she wrote ssomething to the effect that not having children would be "a living death."

                              Ultra feminine but a great artist, she sought strength in men, first her German daddy who died when she was a child (she tried at 20 to commit suicide to "get back to" him) and then the poet, who fathered here two children and then cheated on her.

                              DADDY

                              Sylvia Plath

                              You do not do, you do not do
                              Any more, black shoe
                              In which I have lived like a foot
                              For thirty years, poor and white,
                              Barely daring to breathe or Achoo.

                              Daddy, I have had to kill you.
                              You died before I had time---
                              Marble-heavy, a bag full of God,
                              Ghastly statue with one grey toe
                              Big as a Frisco seal

                              And a head in the freakish Atlantic
                              Where it pours bean green over blue
                              In the waters off beautiful Nauset.
                              I used to pray to recover you.
                              Ach, du.

                              In the German tongue, in the Polish town
                              Scraped flat by the roller
                              Of wars, wars, wars.
                              But the name of the town is common.
                              My Polack friend

                              Says there are a dozen or two.
                              So I never could tell where you
                              Put your foot, your root,
                              I never could talk to you.
                              The tongue stuck in my jaw.

                              It stuck in a barb wire snare.
                              Ich, ich, ich, ich,
                              I could hardly speak.
                              I thought every German was you.
                              And the language obscene

                              An engine, an engine
                              Chuffing me off like a Jew.
                              A Jew to Dachau, Auschwitz, Belsen.
                              I began to talk like a Jew.
                              I think I may well be a Jew.

                              The snows of the Tyrol, the clear beer of Vienna
                              Are not very pure or true.
                              With my gypsy ancestress and my weird luck
                              And my Taroc pack and my Taroc pack
                              I may be a bit of a Jew.

                              I have always been scared of *you*,
                              With your Luftwaffe, your gobbledygoo.
                              And your neat mustache
                              And your Aryan eye, bright blue.
                              Panzer-man, panzer-man, O You---

                              Not God but a swastika
                              So black no sky could squeak through.
                              Every woman adores a Fascist,
                              The boot in the face, the brute
                              Brute heart of a brute like you.

                              You stand at the blackboard, daddy,
                              In the picture I have of you,
                              A cleft in your chin instead of your foot
                              But no less a devil for that, no not
                              Any less the black man who

                              Bit my pretty red heart in two.
                              I was ten when they buried you.
                              At twenty I tried to die
                              And get back, back, back to you.
                              I thought even the bones would do.

                              But they pulled me out of the sack,
                              And they stuck me together with glue.
                              And then I knew what to do.
                              I made a model of you,
                              A man in black with a Meinkampf look

                              And a love of the rack and the screw.
                              And I said I do, I do.
                              So daddy, I'm finally through.
                              The black telephone's off at the root,
                              The voices just can't worm through.

                              If I've killed one man, I've killed two---
                              The vampire who said he was you
                              and drank my blood for a year,
                              Seven years, if you want to know.
                              Daddy, you can lie back now.

                              There's a stake in your fat, black heart
                              And the villagers never liked you.
                              They are dancing and stamping on you.
                              They always *knew* it was you.
                              Daddy, daddy, you bastard, I'm through.
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                              • ritehook
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                                • 08-12-06
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                                #16
                                Plath found the males in her life wanting, (and she perhaps had unreasonable expectations) but was not a man-hater.

                                Some of her feminist paladins have completely misintrepreted her message, as shown in both her work, life and suicide.
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