Which Big Book will be the first to say Banned in the USA!!

[durito]

you people are ******* retarded.

bodog.com only takes usa players, there isn´t a chance they are leaving.

[20Four7]

Pinnacle already has..... dumb thread.... many other do not accept US players.

[wtt0315]

yep i just deposited with my netsp--- card at a A+ site here and i guess i just bought 200 worth of tires

[zam77]

I just read the rather long civil case document involving this case. In short, the government wants $1.5 billion from Pokerstars, $1 billion from Tilt, and $500 million from AP. More interestingly, the document sheds light on the complicated world of online poker payment processing. It names the people involved, and shines some light on the bogus internet businesses used to get money on and off those poker sites. And as an interesting footnote, we finally have conclusive proof (as if we needed it) that the old AP owners were still heavily involved in "new UB". The document outlines Brent Beckley's involvement in the UB deposit/payout department. Beckley is one of the original AP owners, and is Scott Tom's stepbrother. The document also highly implies that Scott Tom is still an owner of AP, though it doesn't say so directly. I'll be waiting for Sebok's resignation and apology (yeah, right). Other interesting facts: - SunFirst Bank, the bank that was used to process deposits/cashouts, seems to have been a cooperative venture between Full Tilt and Pokerstars! - The sites took great care to make it seem like their "businesses" used to deposit and cash out were legitimate, often writing phony reviews of these businesses that didn't actually sell anything. Here is the website of the "OneShopCenter", which didn't actually sell anything: http://www.oneshopcenter.com/ - Chad Elie, a payment processor, was an interesting story. First he stole $4 million from the sites, and they sued him. Believe it or not, the sites dropped the suit in late 2009 and decided to work with him again? Why? Because the sites got tired of playing the cat-and-mouse game of lying to the banks regarding the nature of the transactions, and decided to go with Elie's offer to establish "transparent" transactions, where no deception would occur. To accomplish this, Elie contacted various small banks that were struggling, offered them kickbacks from each transaction processed, and got a few of them to agree to go along with it. Elie also agreed with Pokerstars to slowly repay the $4 million he had stolen from the sites. - The above situation with Elie eventually led to the $10 million investment in SunFirst Bank. The investment was made by Elie and his business partner, giving them 30% ownership. $200 million worth of deposits/cashouts were processed by SunFirst between late 2009 and late 2010. SunFirst got kickbacks of $1.6 million for this. Elie reported back to the poker sites that he and his partner would seek out other small banks around the country for the same purpose.

This is the reality to what has been going on with offshore gambling and US. This deception is the root of it all and similar stories will be uncovered in time with sportsbooks as well. The domino effect will now begin to take place because FBI/USAG basically hit the jackpot and will now simply begin to replicate the takedown process.

[tatommack]

Bodog for sure

[BodogBecky]

Bodog. Theyre no better than the 3 Sites indicted.

Infact I always thought Bodog and UB were somehow connected. They were/are the only gambling sites in the world where **** ************ and Debit Cards work. Sometimes on Bodog it will disguise transactions as supplies4art.com or laptop-fuel.com, but other times it will list BARKLEY LTD which was also listed for my UB transactions.

Guys- its biz as usual. Also, I can confirm that bodog and UB are in absolutely NO WAY related.

Thanks,
Becky

[jjgold]

It might be business as usual for now but you never know when feds come in and close it all down

I hope not

[Joe Dogs]

Scary situation.

[dice]

They'll hit 3 to 5 at the same time, it won't just be one. Maybe Bodog, BetJamaica, 5Dimes?