The Heat is ON! : Status of Industry Wide Payouts for US customers

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  • Extra Innings
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-26-10
    • 15058

    #1
    The Heat is ON! : Status of Industry Wide Payouts for US customers



    Are you having any problems? I am having problems getting funds (a couple grand) (any method) from A+ books. I am of the opinion this is a processor issue (at least for this particular book).

    My patience is wearing thin
  • Extra Innings
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-26-10
    • 15058

    #2
    And another thing: I tried to be compassionate and understanding in reference to the processor issue, that is, I suggested that was the reason I was not seeing my money.

    DO NOT DO THAT as they will quickly cite it as a reason why there are problems. If a sportsbook sets a time frame for a payout they need to abide by it.
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    • WileOut
      SBR MVP
      • 02-04-07
      • 3844

      #3
      How long has it been? What sportsbooks? How many different payouts are you waiting for and give times for each. Give details man don't just start a thread accusing.

      There have been no problems out of the ordinary that I have heard of. DETAIL YOUR SITUATION.

      edit: wait a minute, you say "books" at first like it is more than one book then you say it is only one book.

      Since the UIGEA there has been processors being shut down for every book every now and then. Again please detail your situation better.

      By the way I requested a withdrawal yesterday and received it today.
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      • ngates815
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-01-09
        • 13845

        #4
        I'm kinda happy that I cashed out 1700 on Monday, and received the funds today via transfer to my bank account.

        Only have 300 in books right now, and kinda sitting back and gonna see what happens before I reload any. Kinda sucks that this happened all before the NBA playoffs.

        I was listening to the Ferrall show on XM and he's big into gambling, and they were talking about the poker sites and how they think that the books are coming up next. But you can't take everything he says seriously, because from what I know, he doesn't deal with offshore.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          Europe going to cash in big
          Credit facilities going to cash in big
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          • obamaismyuncle
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-31-08
            • 17801

            #6
            people blowing shit way out of per-portion, all these clowns with money in these poker sites are gonna get their money and these sites ARE gonna open back up to US customers difference being is now the GOV is gonna get their cut too If offshore sports books are next, who knows..
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            • obamaismyuncle
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-31-08
              • 17801

              #7
              Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
              people blowing shit way out of per-portion, all these clowns with money in these poker sites are gonna get their money and these sites ARE gonna open back up to US customers difference being is now the GOV is gonna get their cut too If offshore sports books are next, who knows..

              I forgot to add..it would be nice if SBR(the site that's been cleaning up on all these losers all along) would have some sort of statement on any of this..
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              • KingKolzig
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-02-10
                • 5550

                #8
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                • excel
                  Restricted User
                  • 03-25-10
                  • 4270

                  #9
                  Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
                  I forgot to add..it would be nice if SBR(the site that's been cleaning up on all these losers all along) would have some sort of statement on any of this..
                  fishheads thread...

                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                  After talking to different folks in poker and in gaming in general this kind of feels like Neteller 2007. You have the big-name guys flying to the US landing in the fed's backyard and you have more do-it-yourself-bankers. Neteller was essentially a bank and it looks like the poker guys literally owned at least one.

                  Sports betting is different business from poker. The sportsbooks already have kind of been through this. Poker money needs to constantly move in and out and the volume is high. Being able to play depends on others playing. People don't want to play cash games all day, win, and leave it there until the next time unless they are poker pros. Sports betting processing has been frozen before. It's happened to most books. A few years ago we saw Sportsbook.com take 6 months and good books took 2 or 3 at different points in time. They were books that are more than financially sound, not the WSEXs who use it as an excuse. Regardless if you think the way the law was slipped in an unrelated bill should be illegal and it was created by selfish politicians, it is a law and is illegal for US banks to move money for gaming which is a liability for bookmakers. In the past few years a lot of books are diversifying their player base so they have more stability as a business. Canada, Japan, UK and South America make up much bigger parts of their customer bases.

                  Seizing domains is something new to consider. I think a year or so ago a bill was passed, sold on the most flagrant online offense of all, child porn. Advocates for civil liberties and internet freedom were scared since the language didn't limit the reach to only certain types of federal offenses. We first saw the streaming sports domains confiscated (and come back up) and then wikileaks and now online poker. If this was happening years ago we wouldn't have seen the Napsters and then itunes and so on. For those assessing risk it's definitely something to consider. Just like we saw a lot of the lesser books, like the old Skybook, break or sell because of the stress of processing on their business, could your sportsbook handle the losses when going from Bodog.com to Bodoglife.com or ccTLDs... or no domain name service and just a web IP address?
                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                  These poker sites were still advertising on US soil. All the .nets were a spit in the face and seen as no different than advertising the company in general. Full Tilt was advertising with Strikeforce. Wynn had a deal with Poker Stars for when poker went legal in the US, which is happeneing. Absolute is a black eye for online poker in general and could enter the US market. What message would it send if Poker Stars, Full Tilt and Absolute had key positions in the US and huge market share as a result of skirting the law for years? They couldn't let it happen.
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                  • obamaismyuncle
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-31-08
                    • 17801

                    #10
                    Originally posted by excel
                    fishheads thread...

                    thanks didn't see it
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                    • Tunes
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 02-28-07
                      • 234

                      #11
                      Originally posted by WileOut
                      How long has it been? What sportsbooks? How many different payouts are you waiting for and give times for each. Give details man don't just start a thread accusing.

                      There have been no problems out of the ordinary that I have heard of. DETAIL YOUR SITUATION.

                      edit: wait a minute, you say "books" at first like it is more than one book then you say it is only one book.

                      Since the UIGEA there has been processors being shut down for every book every now and then. Again please detail your situation better.

                      By the way I requested a withdrawal yesterday and received it today.



                      What method was your withdrawal and are you in the US? Pardon my stupidity if I should know the answer to the 2nd question.
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                      • WileOut
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-04-07
                        • 3844

                        #12
                        I'm in US. Cash transfer.
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                        • stevenash
                          Moderator
                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65558

                          #13
                          I pulled everything out except chump change in a few top rated books.
                          I think I know the ending to this novel, and nobody lives happily ever after.

                          In 18 months, I do believe, you'll be able to play in the States, but it'll be new rules, new game.
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                          • Pete0
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-09-10
                            • 3849

                            #14
                            same here


                            requested a withdrawal from 5dimes on monday last week .

                            first they said 3-5 days max. after 5 days, they say, "oh 3-5 is usual. could take upto 8 business" . after 8 business days "they say wait a few more days and see"

                            they still have no clue why its not in my bank/ what the status of it
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                            • Extra Innings
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-26-10
                              • 15058

                              #15
                              Originally posted by WileOut
                              How long has it been? What sportsbooks? How many different payouts are you waiting for and give times for each. Give details man don't just start a thread accusing.

                              There have been no problems out of the ordinary that I have heard of. DETAIL YOUR SITUATION.

                              edit: wait a minute, you say "books" at first like it is more than one book then you say it is only one book.

                              Since the UIGEA there has been processors being shut down for every book every now and then. Again please detail your situation better.

                              By the way I requested a withdrawal yesterday and received it today.
                              legitimate response...just gauging if I am the only one. i want to give them 7 days to fix the situation (its been 21) before raising an alarm....it has to be just the logistics of getting the money here. We have tried instant deposit, Check, and now we are going to try a money gram for close to 2 grand I hope it comes from someone who lives in the US otherwise I am fukced
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                              • excel
                                Restricted User
                                • 03-25-10
                                • 4270

                                #16
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                                • TR88
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 9364

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  Europe going to cash in big
                                  Credit facilities going to cash in big
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                                  • daimoshokage
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-07-11
                                    • 8935

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TR88
                                    Europeans are dumb
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                                    • mcbaseball10
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-11-09
                                      • 2866

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                      I pulled everything out except chump change in a few top rated books.
                                      I think I know the ending to this novel, and nobody lives happily ever after.

                                      In 18 months, I do believe, you'll be able to play in the States, but it'll be new rules, new game.
                                      I hope these new rules you speak of turn me from a schlep to a winner.
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                                      • donkdown
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 07-09-09
                                        • 4423

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Extra Innings



                                        Are you having any problems? I am having problems getting funds (a couple grand) (any method) from A+ books. I am of the opinion this is a processor issue (at least for this particular book).

                                        My patience is wearing thin

                                        I stated this in another thread EI!! This now will be used as an excuse from some books and the one's that do want to pay you cant cuz they 100% used these banks and processors! SBR neeeds to address this. I requested all my money out today!! I for 1 will keep everyone posted on how it goes!!
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                                        • Cuse0323
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-09-09
                                          • 30169

                                          #21
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                                          • Extra Innings
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-26-10
                                            • 15058

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by donkdown


                                            I stated this in another thread EI!! This now will be used as an excuse from some books and the one's that do want to pay you cant cuz they 100% used these banks and processors! SBR neeeds to address this. I requested all my money out today!! I for 1 will keep everyone posted on how it goes!!
                                            ** worked...I am definitely done for a while. I could easily see some of these ***** who are facing 50 years plea a deal in exchange for ALL records (yes I was a fulltilt player).
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                                            • keenecharger21
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 02-21-11
                                              • 378

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                              lmao
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                                              • playersonly69
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-04-08
                                                • 12827

                                                #24
                                                I picked a real bad time to have a geat week at betjamaica
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                                                • Rollins08
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-20-07
                                                  • 1337

                                                  #25
                                                  Are there other people having payout issues?
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                                                  • saintjames
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 09-19-09
                                                    • 747

                                                    #26
                                                    memo to my fellow americans = PLAY IT SAFE AND ALWAYS CASH OUT WITH WESTERNUNION OR ** EACH AND EVERY TIME REGARDLESS OF THE AMOUNTS AND THE FEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                    thank you
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                                                    • ryanspeer2001
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-30-08
                                                      • 3149

                                                      #27
                                                      This sucks for all the pandamonium it is causing. I imagine this is killing line movement and liquidity at a slew of sites with so many of you players pulling out cash.
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                                                      • rymille83
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 01-14-11
                                                        • 111

                                                        #28
                                                        I hope you get all your money soon
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                                                        • mighty maron
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-20-09
                                                          • 4215

                                                          #29
                                                          received cashout from friday from book that has poker......
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                                                          • donkdown
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 07-09-09
                                                            • 4423

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ryanspeer2001
                                                            This sucks for all the pandamonium it is causing. I imagine this is killing line movement and liquidity at a slew of sites with so many of you players pulling out cash.

                                                            Ryan I can't afford to lose anymore of my money I earned fair and square. I've been betting offshore for 15 yrs I'm not one to panic, but I seen the list of processors, They 100% are used from a lot of the good books. I'd love to hear something from the books or SBR so atleast we know.
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