I can't even get in to twoplustwo right now.
Which is okay because it's just going to be a FML festival.
But, FML.
Lots of speculation as to what's going on. I'd say, most likely
1) Everyone will get paid. Eventually.
2) Shit rolls up hill. Meaning, everyone indicted will rat on the site owners. I wouldn't want to be Mr. Lederer today, or any of the real owners, whoever they might be.
3) I wouldn't worry too much about the sportsbooks. For one thing, they're small time compared to these pokersites. For another, the best of them are largely credit based, and have significant numbers of Non-US players, so they have great incentive and ability to keep paying their US postup players. Cris, Greek, 5Dimes will not throw their own businesses under the bus to stiff post-up guys. These companies could follow the Pinny model and be fine, they'll keep their doors open. If they decide they can't be US facing, they'll pay out first. Also, they all long ago made their peace about the US market, and their plans. There aren't any surprises here.
4) Nonetheless, Pinny, Partypoker, MB, and anyone else who overtly closed down to US players is feeling smart today. They were literally betting a lot of money that this day would come.
5) Players will get paid. Yes, I'm repeating 1), because it's what we most care about. I remember sweating 9k when Neteller got grabbed. This is like that.
But if anyone CAN get into twoplustwo, and if there's any good info there, please Cliffs and re-post here. TIA.
Which is okay because it's just going to be a FML festival.
But, FML.
Lots of speculation as to what's going on. I'd say, most likely
1) Everyone will get paid. Eventually.
2) Shit rolls up hill. Meaning, everyone indicted will rat on the site owners. I wouldn't want to be Mr. Lederer today, or any of the real owners, whoever they might be.
3) I wouldn't worry too much about the sportsbooks. For one thing, they're small time compared to these pokersites. For another, the best of them are largely credit based, and have significant numbers of Non-US players, so they have great incentive and ability to keep paying their US postup players. Cris, Greek, 5Dimes will not throw their own businesses under the bus to stiff post-up guys. These companies could follow the Pinny model and be fine, they'll keep their doors open. If they decide they can't be US facing, they'll pay out first. Also, they all long ago made their peace about the US market, and their plans. There aren't any surprises here.
4) Nonetheless, Pinny, Partypoker, MB, and anyone else who overtly closed down to US players is feeling smart today. They were literally betting a lot of money that this day would come.
5) Players will get paid. Yes, I'm repeating 1), because it's what we most care about. I remember sweating 9k when Neteller got grabbed. This is like that.
But if anyone CAN get into twoplustwo, and if there's any good info there, please Cliffs and re-post here. TIA.