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  • wtf
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-22-08
    • 12983

    #1
    UK about to close door to immigrants, america next?
    How mass migration has divided our society: David Cameron savages Labour's open-door policy




    • Welfare system has turned neighbourhoods into 'ghettos'
    • High immigration has created 'discomfort and disjointedness'
    • Labour to blame for growth of extremist parties like BNP

    Mr Cameron will say immigration has been 'too high' for many years

    Britain has been torn apart by the biggest influx of immigrants in history, David Cameron will admit today.
    The Prime Minister will blame a welfare system which has paid Britons to stay idle and foreign jobseekers ‘not really wanting or even willing to integrate’ for turning neighbourhoods into ghettos.
    Immigration has been ‘too high’ for many years and has created ‘discomfort and disjointedness’ across the country, he will say.

    In his first major speech on the issue since becoming Prime Minister, Mr Cameron will make the explosive claim that Labour is to blame for allowing extremist parties such as the BNP to flourish by dismissing legitimate concerns about mass immigration as ‘racist’.
    And he will insist that measures being implemented by the Coalition will cut immigration by up to 75 per cent from its peak. He will say annual net immigration levels will fall from around 200,000 in recent years to the ‘tens of thousands’ seen under the Thatcher and Major governments.
    Mr Cameron will spell out a series of steps the Government is taking to bring down numbers of immigrants, including:
    ■ A limit on the number of skilled workers coming from outside Europe of 27,000 this year;
    ■ A minimum age of 21 for spouses coming to the UK;
    ■ A crackdown on student visas to cut the number issued by 80,000 a year;
    ■ Limits on ‘health tourism’ and illegal workers claiming benefits;
    ■ Welfare reforms to end the option of a life on the dole for British workers.
    His remarks will be the strongest on immigration by a Prime Minister for more than 20 years and could trigger a political furore.
    Critics are likely to question the timing of the speech, just a few weeks before local elections in which the Tories are anxious to shore up their core vote.


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    It also risks a row with some Liberal Democrat members of the Coalition, particularly Vince Cable. Mr Cameron will reject the Business Secretary’s warnings that limiting the number of foreign workers and students risks damaging British companies and universities.
    Addressing party members in Hampshire, the Prime Minister will insist immigration is one of the chief concerns of voters and that it is the role of politicians to speak about it ‘sensibly and reasonably’.


    Mr Cameron said the Coalition's measures will cut immigration by up to 75 per cent from its peak


    He will say that Britain has benefited ‘immeasurably’ from immigrant workers and entrepreneurs, pointing to their contribution to the NHS, schools, charities, financial services, fashion, food and music.
    But he will add: ‘I’m also clear about something else: for too long, immigration has been too high.
    ‘Between 1997 and 2009, 2.2million more people came to live in this country than left to live abroad. That’s the largest influx of people Britain has ever had, and it has placed real pressures on communities up and down the country.
    ‘Not just pressures on schools, housing and healthcare – though those have been serious – but social pressures too.’
    Mr Cameron will argue that communities are ‘forged by friendship and conversation’, whether on the school run or ‘down the pub’.
    ‘These bonds can take time, so real integration takes time,’ he will add.
    ‘That’s why, when there have been significant numbers of new people arriving in neighbourhoods, perhaps not able to speak the same language as those living there, on occasions not really wanting or even willing to integrate, that has created a kind of discomfort and disjointedness in some neighbourhoods.
    ‘This has been the experience for many people in our country – and I believe it is untruthful and unfair not to speak about it and address it.’
    In the most provocative passage, the Prime Minister will say Labour must take responsibility for the rise of the BNP, the English Defence League and other far-Right organisations.

    Mr Cameron will also say Labour should take responsibility for the rise in far right organisations like the English Defence League

    ‘On the one hand, there were Labour ministers who closed down discussion, giving the impression that concerns about immigration were somehow racist,’ he will say.
    ‘On the other, there were ministers hell-bent on burnishing their hard-line credentials by talking tough, but doing nothing to bring the numbers down.
    ‘This approach had damaging consequences in terms of controlling immigration but also in terms of public debate.
    ‘It created the space for extremist parties to flourish, as they could tell people that mainstream politicians weren’t listening to their concerns or doing anything about them.’
    The Prime Minister will point out that around 75 per cent of the 2.5million jobs created since 1997 have gone to foreign-born workers.
    ‘The real issue is this: migrants are filling gaps in the labour market left wide open by a welfare system that for years has paid British people not to work,’ he will add.
    ‘That’s where the blame lies – at the door of our woeful welfare system, and the last government who comprehensively failed to reform it. We will never control immigration properly unless we tackle welfare dependency.’
    Overall, he will insist, the Government’s measures will bring net migrant numbers back down to the levels of the 1990s.
    That would mean around 50,000 immigrants a year being allowed to settle in Britain, a fall of three-quarters on the numbers seen under Labour.
    ‘Yes, Britain will always be open to the best and brightest from around the world and those fleeing persecution,’ he will pledge.
    ‘But with us, our borders will be under control and immigration will be at levels our country can manage. No ifs, no buts. That’s a promise we made to the British people. And it’s a promise we are keeping.’


  • beach nut
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-18-09
    • 589

    #2
    The US should do something similar to this. It's way too easy for people to immigrate here, legally or otherwise.
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    • frostno98
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-11-07
      • 9769

      #3
      Can't blame them, considering that they live on a freaking Island and space is limited. Difference between us and them is this country was great because it was built on immigrants. The Mexican immigrants crossing the borders are probably the one's the US trying to block, verses a person from Europe, Asia, or Australia, who can't just free will their way into this country.
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      • DrunkHorseplayer
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 05-15-10
        • 7720

        #4
        Immigration should be completely eliminated, with the exception of a very few skilled workers.
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        • SprayBoy
          SBR Sharp
          • 11-18-10
          • 390

          #5
          Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
          Immigration should be completely eliminated, with the exception of a very few skilled workers.
          Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard in a while
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          • wtf
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-22-08
            • 12983

            #6
            Originally posted by SprayBoy
            Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard in a while

            oh really?

            how do you think all asian countries keep the slime out? EXACTLY like this. they put all these hurdles up you must jump over, if you cannot , you do not get in. it is that simple.
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            • King Mayan
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-22-10
              • 21330

              #7
              Yes a commie country with a shitload of slaves has no scum!!!! USA is an immigrant country, too bad commie!!!
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              • wtf
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-22-08
                • 12983

                #8
                Originally posted by King Mayan
                Yes a commie country with a shitload of slaves has no scum!!!! USA is an immigrant country, too bad commie!!!
                those SLAVES scored higher ON EVERY FUKIN test score than the americans for the past decade and will continue to crush them for eternity, in fact all of the top universities would be 100% asians if they were based purely on academic standards,
                thank goodness for aa
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                • Ace_of_Spades
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-14-09
                  • 13518

                  #9
                  Best news i've heard in years. Keep the immigrants out. Not just in the UK, but other countries too.
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                  • TR88
                    Restricted User
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 9364

                    #10
                    ace of spades is a hilly billy hahahhah i love it too many redneck on here pal
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                    • NrmlCurvSurfr
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-05-10
                      • 2899

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wtf

                      those SLAVES scored higher ON EVERY FUKIN test score than the americans for the past decade and will continue to crush them for eternity, in fact all of the top universities would be 100% asians if they were based purely on academic standards,
                      thank goodness for aa
                      wow, very broad world perspective you have there...
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                      • clip1
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 05-06-06
                        • 454

                        #12
                        didnt usa want to open the doors to europe and russia? no **** travel
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                        • frostno98
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-11-07
                          • 9769

                          #13
                          Who the hell wants to live in that sh1t whole UK anyways. It's always cold and foggy. Cost of living in London is about the same as Manhattan. You'll get lucky to survive with a regular job.
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                          • King Mayan
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-22-10
                            • 21330

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wtf
                            those SLAVES scored higher ON EVERY FUKIN test score than the americans for the past decade and will continue to crush them for eternity, in fact all of the top universities would be 100% asians if they were based purely on academic standards,
                            thank goodness for aa
                            Yes. yes. U very very smart. Now go build Ronald McDonald toys.Yes.

                            The only reason that slave country is getting big in this world is because of their cheap ass labor.... Scared commie fukks...
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                            • Wulfman14
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 8869

                              #15
                              immigration should not be closed down . however it should be LIMITED. otherwise people from the third world will flock for the "american or UK dream." immigrants do contribute wonderful things to america and the UK or any country for that matter. they work hard and do jobs that americans or brits are not willing to do for lower pay. but it needs to be limited and a quota set. a lot of them abuse the welfare system or have 6-7 children and leech off the society. if gone unchecked ultimately it will bring down a country .
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                              • Wulfman14
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 8869

                                #16
                                personally if i were ruler of the world i would make a 2 child per couple limit on everyone whether they be white, black, hispanic, asian, indian, whatever. that would solve a lot of problems including immigration and also possibly make life better for those in the third world countries and so they wouldn't have to immigrate (emigrate?) since most do because they need jobs or are poverty stricken.
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                                • subs
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-30-10
                                  • 1412

                                  #17
                                  economic migration is for big business. its to keep labour prices down and make us subsidise it through unemployment and benefits. refugee migration is for humanity and makes us human beings part of a community of human beings.

                                  people > companies
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                                  • jw
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-25-09
                                    • 3999

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by beach nut
                                    The US should do something similar to this. It's way too easy for people to immigrate here, legally or otherwise.
                                    You are DEAD wrong.
                                    America is one of the most difficult countries in the world to get into.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388208

                                      #19
                                      USa should do it too

                                      They killed our Country
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                                      • ApricotSinner32
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-28-10
                                        • 10648

                                        #20
                                        Gold we are all fuking immigrants basically in the u.s what the fuk are you talking about you prick?

                                        At some point in time our ancestors came over on a boat just like juan and jose hop the boarder.


                                        Gold go jerk off to canuck g's voice on skype you sick fuk.
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                                        • Smogs
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-31-08
                                          • 4173

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                          Immigration should be completely eliminated, with the exception of a very few skilled workers.
                                          Originally posted by SprayBoy

                                          Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard in a while
                                          Agree, completely retarded

                                          Originally posted by wtf


                                          oh really?

                                          how do you think all asian countries keep the slime out? EXACTLY like this. they put all these hurdles up you must jump over, if you cannot , you do not get in. it is that simple.
                                          Only smart people want to go to Asia, big business, architects, construction - you don't see an english person go to china to be a fukkin rice paddy worker. They could have an open border policy but apart from those making big buck, who the hell wants to go to asia?!

                                          Originally posted by frostno98
                                          Who the hell wants to live in that sh1t whole UK anyways. It's always cold and foggy. Cost of living in London is about the same as Manhattan. You'll get lucky to survive with a regular job.
                                          I wish i could refute that but my country has gone down the drain

                                          Originally posted by Wulfman14
                                          immigration should not be closed down . however it should be LIMITED. otherwise people from the third world will flock for the "american or UK dream." immigrants do contribute wonderful things to america and the UK or any country for that matter. they work hard and do jobs that americans or brits are not willing to do for lower pay. but it needs to be limited and a quota set. a lot of them abuse the welfare system or have 6-7 children and leech off the society. if gone unchecked ultimately it will bring down a country .
                                          Finally a smart comment
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                                          • markteal
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 04-13-11
                                            • 90

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            USa should do it too

                                            They killed our Country
                                            America is a country of immigrants right? You've got a point if you're a Native American though.
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                                            • The Madcap
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-03-10
                                              • 2808

                                              #23




                                              But they took our jobs!
                                              No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.
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                                              • 19th Hole
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-22-09
                                                • 18461

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                USa should do it too

                                                They killed our Country
                                                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
                                                Let me see.
                                                Who killed our country? No one.

                                                The Muslim plane crashers
                                                from 911?? Yeah, they weakly tried....Keep all Muslims out.
                                                They assimilate poorly and refuse to play well
                                                with others.


                                                Who else?
                                                Would you exclude Jews from immigrating??
                                                They have made vast contributions to
                                                American society. Yeah...Let them in.

                                                The Irish....The Emerald Isle is going to
                                                hell in a handbasket. Let those folks in....
                                                We need the pretty lasses.

                                                The Germans...Well, they're a little on the serious side
                                                for me....but if we ever decide to make things
                                                again...we need them around.
                                                Come on in.

                                                The English....Who wouldn't want the English around??
                                                They're likable chaps and our schoolboys
                                                always need someone to beat on walking home
                                                from school.
                                                Let them in.

                                                The French...Man, who doesn't like French pastry and
                                                racy postcards?? If they promise to keep sauces
                                                off of my food...Let them in.



                                                The Italians....These folks gave us nature's
                                                perfect food...PIZZA.
                                                Check their guns at the door and come
                                                on in.


                                                The Greeks...Hey, these guys gave
                                                us almost everything worth knowing....
                                                Also, thanks to them we get the Olympics every four
                                                years.
                                                Alright, come on in.

                                                The Swiss.....Who gave us diet cheese?? It's 50% holes.
                                                Thanks to my Swiss watch I know when to eat.
                                                Welcome in.

                                                The Dutch....Hey..anything goes with these guys
                                                Never a sharp word to anyone.
                                                Leave the noisey shoes at the door before you enter.


                                                The Mexicans....Fun loving people with a great work ethic.
                                                I love enchaladas. Leave the drugs at home
                                                and come on in.

                                                The Danish...They have been supplying
                                                us with Nobel Prizes and beautiful
                                                women for years.
                                                Let them in.

                                                Let's see ...the list goes on and on.
                                                Seems every non-Islamic country has something
                                                worthwhile to offer. Let them in.
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                                                • rkelly110
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 10-05-09
                                                  • 39410

                                                  #25
                                                  If housing or jobs can't support the influx of immigrants, shut the door.

                                                  If a lazy, govt living and ghetto loving people wants to come in, shut the door permanently.

                                                  It's absolutely wrong for working people to support long term lazy people. IMO
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                                                  • bruceBRUCEbruce
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-20-09
                                                    • 2560

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    USa should do it too

                                                    They killed our Country
                                                    yup. should have started changing policy on 9/12/11.

                                                    it is incredibly easy to waltz right into the US, and overstay various visas.
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                                                    • Pareto
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-10-07
                                                      • 1054

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
                                                      Let me see.
                                                      Who killed our country? No one.

                                                      The Danish...They have been supplying
                                                      us with Nobel Prizes and beautiful
                                                      women for years.
                                                      Let them in.
                                                      The nobel prize is swedish, but if I bring a six-pack of Carlsberg and some Lego can I still get in?
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                                                      • Doug
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 6324

                                                        #28
                                                        Tough issue. I'd let in any wealthy person ( non-criminal) that wants to come here, like most countries do.

                                                        I have to laugh at people like my wife that don't particurally like PR's being here, well they are not foreigners. Many white people have ancestors ( grandparents, great-grandparents) that came over around about 1900, myself included, my grandparents were not born in the USA, but my parents were. It's pretty much the same for my wife ( at least I think so). These people call themselves Italian, yeah right, you're Italian, let me drop you you off in Rome and see how you do ?

                                                        Hell the Negro population has better roots here than a lot of us !

                                                        Anybody can be a positive citizen. Asians seem pretty solid to me, overall ! Immigrants are often better educated than Americans. I'd have no problem with an Indian doctor for example.
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                                                        • William Walters
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                                                          • 01-17-11
                                                          • 6372

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by wulfman14
                                                          immigration should not be closed down . However it should be limited. Otherwise people from the third world will flock for the "american or uk dream." immigrants do contribute wonderful things to america and the uk or any country for that matter. They work hard and do jobs that americans or brits are not willing to do for lower pay. But it needs to be limited and a quota set. a lot of them abuse the welfare system or have 6-7 children and leech off the society. If gone unchecked ultimately it will bring down a country .
                                                          bingo
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                                                          • 19th Hole
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-22-09
                                                            • 18461

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Pareto
                                                            The nobel prize is swedish, but if I bring a six-pack of Carlsberg and some Lego can I still get in?

                                                            Thanks for the correction Pareto....The Scandanavian
                                                            girls made me slip in and out of borders.
                                                            Must have meant the Danish cartoonists!!


                                                            (Tried to award you points
                                                            but they were blocked.)
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                                                            • aceking
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-07-05
                                                              • 4782

                                                              #31
                                                              good move , too many slumdogs from third world India stinks up the country.


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                                                              • Sunde91
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-26-09
                                                                • 8325

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Wulfman14
                                                                immigration should not be closed down . however it should be LIMITED. otherwise people from the third world will flock for the "american or UK dream." immigrants do contribute wonderful things to america and the UK or any country for that matter. they work hard and do jobs that americans or brits are not willing to do for lower pay. but it needs to be limited and a quota set. a lot of them abuse the welfare system or have 6-7 children and leech off the society. if gone unchecked ultimately it will bring down a country .
                                                                Haha the anti-racist holier than thou keyboard crusader caught saying something that would be considered racist and intolerant.

                                                                Immigrants are "leeches" who will bring down society? You want to limit the movement of human beings? Stereotyping immigrants as having 6-7 kids and abusing welfare? Sounds like a dispicable facsist bigot to me.

                                                                Turn in your pc police card immediately, hypocrite.
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                                                                • El Stufruado
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 01-21-11
                                                                  • 56

                                                                  #33
                                                                  to bad the western world wouldnt do this , **** those leeches
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                                                                  • MBENZ
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-07-07
                                                                    • 5240

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jw
                                                                    You are DEAD wrong.
                                                                    America is one of the most difficult countries in the world to get into.
                                                                    Where did you get that factoid?
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                                                                    • Brick
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 08-13-09
                                                                      • 652

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by aceking
                                                                      good move , too many slumdogs from third world India stinks up the country.


                                                                      lol i agree
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