Facts about Allstarsportspicks ?

[SportsMozart]

Has anybody ever have been subscriber at ALLSTARTSPORTSPICKS? Reply only if you have facts, no assumptions. Thanks

[crustyme]

they are the worst. bunch of scammers and thieves.

[SportsMozart]

they are the worst. bunch of scammers and thieves.

How do you know that? Did you play their picks? I am looking for somebody who has actually played their premium picks.

[SportsMozart]

Let's look at the numbers shall we! Last NFL season 65-11/ CFB 73-22 Current NBA season 181-45 . 29-3 in last 32 in NHL
Horses 2000 units and up bets 43-0 in March, currently 5-0 in April.

There are strong vibes out there that this is a boiler room scam. Yet nobody on this forum can prove or reverse it cause nobody has any actual proof. CIA guy would say " when there is a slightest doubt, there is no doubt- that is the first thing that they teach you"

There are lot of people here who are screaming about scam, yet they never have been subscribers. And one can easily understand why

Monthly subscription on sports $2500 on horses $8000 ( you gotta be kidding me!)

[crustyme]

mods,

why hasnt this scammer/spammer been banned yet?

[SportsMozart]

mods,

why hasnt this scammer/spammer been banned yet?

You are the dumb parrot who speaks up on threads just to scream " SCAM!" Yet you don't know your dick from your head... I started this thread to get the information, not to promote anybody.

I wanna know if this is valid scam alert or not. As a matter of fact most of the public on this forum are here to get something for free fighting for the bread crumbs on the table... Parrots like yourself never invest money in any information cause you are broke dumb ass. Of course you'd say it is because you are too smart for this

My question was is Allstarsportspicks scam or not, is the record on their website a fabricated or not . Call me a spammer for that is indeed smart move. Isn't the forum a place to get and exchange information?

I said in the beginning of this thread- fact only, no assumptions! So if you have nothing to say, just pass by.

So is Allstarsportspicks a scam? I guess now we'll never know will we!

[crustyme]

are you retarded?

if they were really 391-78 (83.4%), every gambling forum would be talking about them! but they are typical scammers that put up fake records to sucker idiots in to paying for their shitty picks.

never seen a scum tout keep a legitimate record because they all suck and lose long term.

dumbasses like you should be on the spot.

[SportsMozart]

are you retarded?

if they were really 391-78 (83.4%), every gambling forum would be talking about them! but they are typical scammers that put up fake records to sucker idiots in to paying for their shitty picks.

never seen a scum tout keep a legitimate record because they all suck and lose long term.

dumbasses like you should be on the spot.

I am asking you again. Are you talking out of personal experience, are you just guessing or are you mental case? You don't know that , you just assume! Nobody is talking about them here cause nobody has ever bought their picks. Every fool can assume all sorts of things, it is easy and it does not cost anything.

My question was addressed to those who actually know what they are talking about, so shut the f up!

[sunzal]

it's funny that you won't listen to anyone saying that they are scammers unless we give you some proven record of loses, yet you're willing to take their website claim on their record and suppose that is valid.....so the answer is, no, i can't come on here and tell you what their actual record is or give you any stories about how they scammed me....but one thing I can promise you, without a shadow of a doubt, is that the record they are advertising is either (1) absolutely positively a lie, or (2) represents some sort of chase system where the record is meaningless because amount lost on loses is so high....

So what i can guarantee you 100 percent is that they are not 391-78 in straight bets- any player worth a nickle will tell you that is not a record that anyone can gain over the time it would take to have that many plays....it's significantly higher than any reported win streak ever- the hilton NFL winner each year is somewhere in the 65 percent vicinity each year, and only once has someone been even close to that more than once- to claim that someone has a record almost 20 points higher than that over almost 500 plays is not even worth discussion....

most likely it's a chase system because they'd HAVE to know that no one would actually believe such a record...

[sunzal]

the reason so many people think you are a schill is because they couldn't fathom someone actually believing this record and coming on here to admit it

[sunzal]

or, now reading what the dude says about in-game, maybe they just wait until the 4th quarter and make in-game bets on the winner when they're up 30----laying about -6000- i guess that would be a way to attain that record

[alexschillig]

i cant even believe my eyes. no one can put up that kind of record over that span. Seems like u dont have any brain cells to believe taht sportsmozart.

[SportsMozart]

I have been doing some work trying to expose liars and fake touts all over the web. That is why I am asking people to share their experiences on each and every case, provided that they have any. What sunzal said makes very much sense and that is my position on the matter as well.
In fact he gave the only smart answer this far to current topic. It is almost certain that they scam, what i wanted to expose was they way they are doing it. The same guy named Juan who runs above mentioned website also owns NitterzSports and so called sportsmonitor called WagerPolice. He put that site up so he could say " hey- we are monitored !" So he is monitoring himself

[SportsMozart]

Update to this story is bit ackward. Not too often do I have to change my opinion about possible false tout services into a positive direction.
AllStarSportspicks offered me a short term free pass . I was simply observing their picks and accuracy of results. Everything checked out. Since the period was short some doubts still remain but they passed the test. As of conclusion I think it is utterly unfair to call AllStarSportspicks a scam. Guy picks very well and no he does not win all the games...he too has a losing days. Nevertheless he accumilates 5o net wins per month betting 3-4 games a day in average. Terms to join that service are beyond crazy- lifetime membership only for $35 000 or $100 000 if you want to include horses as well. Nobody in their right mind is going to send $35k to some guy they do not know. This is clear so there is nothing to worry about. But AllStarSportsPicks is likely a legit service and it would be unfair to call somebody's business a scam when they are not. I consider this topic closed. Who wants more information is welcome to contact them directly.

[Britton333]

Total scam, I bought a short package from them once and they were always putting out insane lines and changing the records after the fact. Steer clear of these guys!

[Toples]

to get 83% lines bookmaker set should be wrong probably over 10 points, 20 points on totals
i dont think they can miss that much

even if you are a 60% long term handicapper (which doesnt exist) to be 391-78, you have 1:1000000000000000000000000000 chance
thats an exact number just checked it (10E28) so basically 0 probability

[Crimson2002]

I once considered giving them a try but their record is very deceiving. They don't pick a game like most handicappers do. They utilize a hedge system that only returns a small profit for most of their wins but when they lose they lose alot more than they win.

[johnmadden13]

If they hit at that crazy %, why even sell the picks? They should own a few casinos and nfl teams by now just playing their own picks.

[hotatl1970]

SportsMozart, after reading your posts...most of them more than once, I realized that you are obviously not a very bright person. What are you trying to accomplish with this post?

[mavjr5]

I check this website out I wrote by email saying y he doesn't offer monthly plans only lifetime membership which is 35k, and y on the website it says 2500 monthly and 8000 for horses, so I told him he was a scam and he wrote me back by email all pissed off and for some reason I can't purchase that monthly plan anymore, it doesn't show anymore on the website it just says in red letters check back laters for monthly plans, sounds and looks fishy to me, but he still sends me emails of how great his picks are doing while all his clients are real happy..

[mavjr5]

Not only that but in the emails he also said I know u always log in to my website y if iam a scam i log in to his website, I told him that iam only checking what picks he gave for that day because sure the picks he gives out are good picks, so he just wrote me back saying something like I was willing to work something out like a payment plan, but I haven't wrote him back but he still sends me emails about how great the picks are doing but he hasn't mention about the payment plans anymore, probably hes waiting for me to reply to him about the payment plans..

[mavjr5]

In one of the emails he wrote me saying y I log to much into his website saying I know u can't afford to pay for his picks and besides that all his clients are sports guys who play some kind of sport games and how he has this special friend a hot walker from Mexico who only bets on horses who he made him into a millionaire..

[captrobey]

Wow does not accept monthly? Like you said who in their right mind would spend that much on someone they do not know. Of course his clients are happy-the imaginary ones in his head. Even if someone called claiming to be a client i would just think he put a friend up to it.Once he gets your money you are probably screwed. At least with a monthly plan if he sucks you can just drop him.If you sign a contract for payments you would be screwed unless you get him to put in writing he will give you that % he claims.Which i doubt he will do.

[captrobey]

Total scam, I bought a short package from them once and they were always putting out insane lines and changing the records after the fact. Steer clear of these guys!

When i was younger i tried a couple of these. Both total scams. One did what you just mentioned and either changed results or kept the losses they had sent me off their records.

The other was even worse. I heard on WIP the sports talk station in Philly mentioning one of them so i figured if they said it it must be legit. I signed up for something like a couple picks a week for the regular football season. Two days later they said they had exclusive picks for another $1000 and they would be way better. So i did that. A couple days after that they wanted more cash for another level of exclusive picks.At this point i said you already got $1500 of mine i would like to see how your few picks a week do before i send you more. After he saw he was not getting more cash he said "Then if you are not willing to take a chance then we will not give you any more picks". And he hung up on me.
I never got another pick from him and when i called to complain to WIP why they would promote a scam like that -they basically said they pay an advertising fee and have no control over it. I never trusted another after that.