How many people have stiffed CW.

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:35 AM

Also check this out very fishy.... spanishdrills.com....
ipodprivacy.net

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:38 AM

just wierd how u can log in there.....Was going through some stuff when I heard of "Ben " harrassing people from other forums

**diogee** · 04-27-08, 03:41 AM

j$...I believe there are like 6 other sites besides the ones you have listed. BBD had them listed when CW first came on the scene.

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:52 AM

They've been claiming since Feb 21st to be coming out with a debit card but still no existance

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:53 AM

I know Dio just informing people that may not read the beginning

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:56 AM

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Business model:

1. Set up a betting website
2. Offer bet on credit
3. Those that win, never pay
4. Those that lose, some will pay
5. Close in 6 months

**diogee** · 04-27-08, 03:58 AM

I just assumed that was part of their business plan to lure in more customers...think about it. You search google for a place to buy an Ipod then click on their Ipod link and it takes you to a gambling site where you don't need any money to start playing. Could be a genius way to lure in more customers since the sites don't cost that much.

j$ · 04-27-08, 04:08 AM

No they claim they know nothing of them...that their site addy just prob had their new ip address...yea right

j$ · 04-27-08, 04:09 AM

your prob right

j$ · 04-27-08, 04:17 AM

Also not saying this is true but I've been hearing alot about this being an FBI sting

**DukeJohn** · 04-27-08, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by j$

Also not saying this is true but I've been hearing alot about this being an FBI sting

Why would you bother saying something that is obviously false? The FBI is not going to set up a sting in Costa Rica so they can find out which Americans are doing something that is not illegal.

**DukeJohn** · 04-27-08, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by j$

though they claim they are in Costa Rica, there is no valid information filed within their Internet registration.

People have said over and over, but I guess you don't want to listen to the truth. Their website 200.122.132.68 is a Costa Rica address. The 200.122 part puts it in that country. You can call the site whatever you want, but that is where it goes. Why try and tell people lies? It is obvious, 200.122 is Costa Rica, why is that not good enough for you?

**picantel** · 04-27-08, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by DukeJohn

People have said over and over, but I guess you don't want to listen to the truth. Their website 200.122.132.68 is a Costa Rica address. The 200.122 part puts it in that country. You can call the site whatever you want, but that is where it goes. Why try and tell people lies? It is obvious, 200.122 is Costa Rica, why is that not good enough for you?

Yah and? For 4 years I have been the victim of a ton of ID theft. The IPs come out of netherlands, germany, ect. All spoofed. I am 100% positive the person doing it is in the US.

**DukeJohn** · 04-27-08, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by picantel

Yah and? For 4 years I have been the victim of a ton of ID theft. The IPs come out of netherlands, germany, ect. All spoofed. I am 100% positive the person doing it is in the US.

You are misunderstanding what I am saying. I am not stating a position either way only merely pointing out that to say their IP address is in the US and imply there is no information to the contrary is false. Many people are caught up looking for conspiracies everywhere without just looking at the truth. Yes, there are bad thing out there in this world, but that doesn't mean you should not speak facts and truth to make your point. Picantel, what you said is a fact with your opinion. What J$ said was simple false and trying to mislead people.

Now personally I feel J$'s issue with CW needs to be resolved. I believe J$ went a little crazy with his emails and his posting, however that doesn't excuse the "fact" that he needs to be paid. However, it is my understanding he has not received any payment since the beginning. If this is true then something is not right and someone is spinning a story here for our entertainment.

Now if what he says is true and he hasn't receive his first payout request of weeks ago, then he needs to fill out a complaint form with SBR. If CW is legit, they will respond to SBR and we can finally get this issue resolved truthfully and vindicate one party, either J$ or CW.

**madmaxx** · 04-27-08, 01:47 PM

their horse racing "clock being off, but will be fixed shortly" since they opened kinda turned me off. they can keep the 255 im up.

i have no idea how this site is making money. they seem to be getting about 80 customers every 2 weeks if that and i bet 80% are people on here who open multiple accounts after they lose.

Its not a "new idea" or any of that crap because you can get a marker in vegas and phone in bets, after an extensive credit check, etc.

I could run this "book" from my house easily. Just need 3 computers and find clever names such as Mike, George, and Sam as well as a phone that comes up as 000-000-0000 when i call out.

**pokernut9999** · 04-27-08, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by madmaxx

their horse racing "clock being off, but will be fixed shortly" since they opened kinda turned me off. they can keep the 255 im up.

i have no idea how this site is making money. they seem to be getting about 80 customers every 2 weeks if that and i bet 80% are people on here who open multiple accounts after they lose.

Its not a "new idea" or any of that crap because you can get a marker in vegas and phone in bets, after an extensive credit check, etc.

I could run this "book" from my house easily. Just need 3 computers and find clever names such as Mike, George, and Sam as well as a phone that comes up as 000-000-0000 when i call out.

I have stated since day 1 their horse book is the worst of any I have ever seen.

**madmaxx** · 04-27-08, 02:01 PM

sportsbook.com used the same software but at least it was accurate with the post times.

**robmpink** · 04-27-08, 02:03 PM

I'm not a fan of the horse racing there. I do bet horses, mostly pick 3's and 4's, which they don't offer. I never made a horse bet w/ them. Mostly due to the races OTB way before the race actually starts. No biggie. I do have to hand it to them regarding their sports betting menu. They offer a decent selection of soccer, golf daily match ups, tennis and even Aussie Rules Football.

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:29 PM

DUKEJOHN cmon keep my name out your mouth b4 I stick that sword up your ass

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:30 PM

just because there website comes back to Costa Rica doesnt mean they're based there

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:31 PM

IF what I said was true???????? who are u coming out of nowhere to give an opinion on this place...maybe u should go ask iwin u dumb phuck he was personally able to just talk with them about my case

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:32 PM

which itself should tell u this place is a scambook

j$ · 04-27-08, 03:34 PM

right I'll get my check... just like they've been telling people no next week on the debit card situation since middle of Feb. now its gonna be may

**robmpink** · 04-27-08, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by j$

right I'll get my check... just like they've been telling people no next week on the debit card situation since middle of Feb. now its gonna be may

They said in Feb, they are getting a debit card. They didn't say it will be ready in Feb. They said it will be ready this week. Obviously, it isn't. Who gives a shit? When it comes, it comes. Now if it comes in June, that is a different story. It will come shortly. Too bad you won't be using it.

Actually, let me backtrack. The place wasn't even open in the middle of Feb from what I know. Anything else that is true you want to report?

**DukeJohn** · 04-27-08, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by j$

IF what I said was true???????? who are u coming out of nowhere to give an opinion on this place...maybe u should go ask iwin u dumb phuck he was personally able to just talk with them about my case

Out of nowhere

I have been posting about them since they began. Also, didn't iwin explain that situation, yes he did.

Furthermore do not understand why you post 3 to 4 posts in a minute instead of just putting it in one post. It is probably the reason you seem to skip over what others say since you seem to be absorbed in your own self instead of listening to others. Perhaps this is just your character trait, but it is somewhat annoying.

I am still interested in seeing if you are trying to get this resolved through SBR. Although, you attacked me for backing you and saying you should be paid, apparently even people on your side you are against, I would like to know if you have filled out a complaint form with SBR about your early requests for withdrawals that you said you did not receive.

**picantel** · 04-27-08, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

They said in Feb, they are getting a debit card. They didn't say it will be ready in Feb. They said it will be ready this week. Obviously, it isn't. Who gives a shit? When it comes, it comes. Now if it comes in June, that is a different story. It will come shortly. Too bad you won't be using it.

Actually, let me backtrack. The place wasn't even open in the middle of Feb from what I know. Anything else that is true you want to report?

It was open on their mirror sites they know nothing about. Read the past posts about this. Those sites have been up for years.

**picantel** · 04-27-08, 10:28 PM

I will repost the good parts. Remember they stated they know nothing of these other sites and just happened to make a website that is a mirror image. Look at the bolded sections. Just opened in February? I think not.

Rissa says:
how long have you been in business?
Ben says:
this site just launched last week. Our partners have been in business for years
Rissa says:
why is there 3 different sites?
Ben says:
what
Rissa says:
http://creditwagering.com http://www.ipodprivacy.net http://www.spanishdrills.com
Rissa says:
all the same site
Ben says:
those other sites are just traffic gathering sites
Ben says:
no clue who they are but they have our pages and links on them
Ben says:
there were 10 last week, now 5
Ben says:
i think they use names that are not active for traffic building
Rissa says:
so I can signup at http://www.spanishdrills.com/signup/
Rissa says:
but yet you said you don't know what the site is
Ben says:
goes to our domain, thats where it is pointed
Ben says:
never heard of them
Ben says:
maybe they had the ip we have now before
Ben says:
i will have to check with our techs..thats probably the case, as our isp is the largest in costa rica

Ok you got all that.

Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: CREDITWAGERING.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.EASYDNS.COM
Name Server: NS2.EASYDNS.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 06-feb-2008
Creation Date: 21-dec-2007
Expiration Date: 21-dec-2008

Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: IPODPRIVACY.NET
Registrar: ENOM INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 12-dec-2007
Creation Date: 10-jan-2006
Expiration Date: 10-jan-2009

Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: SPANISHDRILLS.COM
Registrar: ENOM INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 26-mar-2007
Creation Date: 24-apr-2005
Expiration Date: 24-apr-2008

https://www.giftcardsgalore.net

Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: GIFTCARDSGALORE.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS27.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS28.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 24-nov-2007
Creation Date: 13-oct-2004
Expiration Date: 13-oct-2008

Ok they said someone made up the giftcards site to copy them yet it was made 4 years prior to cw even being in existence. Btw, all 4 sites have the exact same look.

https://www.spanishdrills.com

The IP address of www.spanishdrills.com is 200.122.132.68
The IP address 200.122.132.68 is assigned to Costa Rica
City SAN JOSE
ISP SERVICIO CO-LOCATION RACSA.

https://www.creditwagering.com

The IP address of www.creditwagering.com is 200.122.132.68
The IP address 200.122.132.68 is assigned to Costa Rica
City SAN JOSE
ISP SERVICIO CO-LOCATION RACSA.

https://www.ipodprivacy.net

The IP address of www.ipodprivacy.net is 200.122.132.68
The IP address 200.122.132.68 is assigned to Costa Rica
City SAN JOSE
ISP SERVICIO CO-LOCATION RACSA.

https://www.giftcardsgalore.net

The IP address of www.giftcardsgalore.net is 200.122.132.68
The IP address 200.122.132.68 is assigned to Costa Rica
City SAN JOSE
ISP SERVICIO CO-LOCATION RACSA.

**HOMAR** · 04-28-08, 03:17 PM

if you get paid by creditwagering.com...

just to ask if someone here get some paychek from this guys yet..
im waiting for 2 checks 1000usd each . for the last week but still nothing . any comments welcome.

**pimike** · 04-28-08, 04:01 PM

NO new Threads for CW!!!!!!!!!!

Please post under creditwageing thread

**pimike** · 04-28-08, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by HOMAR

just to ask if someone here get some paychek from this guys yet..
im waiting for 2 checks 1000usd each . for the last week but still nothing . any comments welcome.

Thanks MODs. Not sure I owe these guys over 2 g's will have to re-up today.

**HOMAR** · 04-28-08, 07:18 PM

i make my 2000 usd and then only left 45 usd plus the 1000 credit line from this guys. so after i make my monwy rwquest 1000 each week,.still waiting for the firt to come .....

**robmpink** · 04-28-08, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by HOMAR

i make my 2000 usd and then only left 45 usd plus the 1000 credit line from this guys. so after i make my monwy rwquest 1000 each week,.still waiting for the firt to come .....

Just curious. Are you from the US?

**HOMAR** · 04-29-08, 09:59 AM

No Bud. Im In Chihuahua Mex. Sorry About My Eanglish I Can Read And Speak Your Lenguage But I Know I Have A Lot Of Errors In My Write...

**daggerkobe** · 04-29-08, 10:34 AM

Let me see if I understand......

CW was legit enough to give them their ss# to.
CW was legit enough to accept a line of credit with.
CW was legit enough to bet with that line of credit with.

But when it comes time to pay, they are no longer legit.

Gotta love the logic of deadbeat losers.

**robmpink** · 04-29-08, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by HOMAR

No Bud. Im In Chihuahua Mex. Sorry About My Eanglish I Can Read And Speak Your Lenguage But I Know I Have A Lot Of Errors In My Write...

I wasn't implying what you are thinking. I was trying to see if maybe the delay pertained to the European players being shut out. I thought I read that somewhere.