Betphoenix good or bad

**SoV** · 03-27-11, 01:20 AM

Good book, but don't expect a fair, unbiased response from SBR since they have stopped filling their pockets.

**neverstoppers23** · 03-27-11, 01:21 AM

They are a typical sports book, I have not heard of any major problems with anybody not being able to cash out. Have about average deposit options. IMO, I would go with bodog every time. Not only do they have the best betting software, including their live betting software, like no where else online. They have many many deposit options, where you can actually use a **! You can't find that in many places.

**VegasInsider** · 03-27-11, 01:45 AM

I would say they're just one level down from Greek, Bet Jam, 5dimes, Bookmaker. Good book, tons of options, decent customer service

**romecloneout** · 03-27-11, 02:03 AM

hahahahahaha that shit book...expect getting cold called 5 times a day...f book

**Smoke** · 03-27-11, 02:11 AM

They suck ass now. Slow payouts, horrible website layout, slow live chat, cold calling..

AVOID BP!!

**magynuck** · 03-27-11, 02:35 AM

e wallets are inexcusably slow pay
** and ** seem to still be ok
anybody who has a clue would love to bet there at full limits if they
got their payment act together...however the catch 22 is that if u do
have a clue will be limited and on a time delay

**PokerDave** · 03-27-11, 02:45 AM

I agree with the BODOG answer. Easy to bet & easy to get paid (as long as you send in
ALL the info they want and call them to be sure its a go). Good luck capping.

OUT

**vividjohn45** · 03-27-11, 02:45 AM

they cold call but so does bookmaker.

**ejfel01** · 03-27-11, 05:24 AM

It is an "ok" book

only good experiences

**StraitShooter** · 03-27-11, 05:29 AM

getting bashed by a bunch of hem 50 cents lately punks who never sent t

**HedgeHog** · 03-27-11, 06:15 AM

Payouts are slow and getting slower. Requested a payout 3 weeks ago (3/7) and it has yet to be processed.

**mighty maron** · 03-27-11, 08:08 AM

How can people accept slow payouts when other compraible books get it done promptly? BP has had a history of slow pay complaints..enough said when others pay promptly

**jjgold** · 03-27-11, 08:11 AM

I would not play there

Slow payouts

Use SBR books

**gangeriver** · 03-27-11, 08:19 AM

never had an issue. good software and same day "persontoperson" payouts. 1-10 raitings?? "6½" but probably I'll never make a deposit again because it offers to non-american clients only persontoperson as a payout method.max $850 and $65 cost...that is crazy.

**milwaukee mike** · 03-27-11, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by mighty maron

How can people accept slow payouts when other compraible books get it done promptly? BP has had a history of slow pay complaints..enough said when others pay promptly

i have always been paid but it is a struggle at times. their rule that you only get a free check withdrawal in increments of 500 is ridiculous - it's nothing more than a sneaky way to get more action/juice and payout less.
same as their slow pay "processor problems" all the time - they don't have problems, they just want to give you more time to gamble your balance away.

**Glitch** · 03-27-11, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by wingless

Whatta say about betphoenix? Good betting site or not really..can i have some ratings 1-10 here?

hard to rate them 1-10 because they do so many things well and so many things poorly. they pay and have lots of betting options and a fairish live casino.

they are shiesty, have less than competent customer service at times, try their best to slow pay...

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**soli** · 03-27-11, 08:26 AM

I never had a problem with BetPhonix but I've read many complaints about slow pay lately

**xxxvince** · 03-27-11, 08:27 AM

been using them for a year now.. i am not sure sbr ratings but i will give them B- just to compare to another book.. i will give dsi A-

**legendmatt34** · 03-27-11, 08:36 AM

1 Its run by a bunch of shady bastards! Slow payouts...

**stevenash** · 03-27-11, 08:37 AM

Better options, got free trial plays when they first launched, not impressed.

**doublej95** · 03-27-11, 09:16 AM

I have never had any problems with them, never had a cold call from them either. Since they are not in good standing with SBR I would not look at starting an account with them now though. SBR does help handle a lot of disputes for players and you would be better off going with a book that is on good terms with SBR.

**geebert74** · 03-27-11, 09:17 AM

I cashed out a check last week via M/G and I got it within 8 hours.

**xraygord** · 03-27-11, 09:22 AM

I have no experience with them. No idea.

**boscokid** · 03-27-11, 09:22 AM

i have a small balance there from the superbowl promo. guess i will try to get it out and see what happens!

**katstale** · 03-27-11, 09:30 AM

I think I can be fairly objective since I have been almost limited out the door. Played there for over 2 years. Had slow pay issues like everyone else but was willing to put up with that due to their opinionated lines. If u take 105 that is for sure the way to go. I think they are financially ok as they have some ownership that is Cris related. Richard has always been quick to handle my issues. If you need to get money in and out quick I would tell you to play somewhere else. If you can deal with the slow pay--then it is a good option. Play until they show you the door.

**clarkd32** · 03-27-11, 09:30 AM

i've received 3 payouts in the last couple months... bp told me in live chat that the check payout would take about 10 business days... the ** payouts were received 24-48 hours or so...

**BigDaddy** · 03-27-11, 10:17 AM

better options available IMHO

**jjgold** · 03-27-11, 10:18 AM

Yes Daddy!!!

Stay away

**Money** · 03-27-11, 10:22 AM

Ive had nothing but positive experiences with betphoenix besides some annoying false accusations made by Phil on my account after I ran up an initial deposit of 25$ into over 3000$

**dark star** · 03-27-11, 10:53 AM

Good experiences with them so far.I have always been paid in the proper time frame that they have stated.However,if you need your money quickly thats where a problem could arise...but if you need your money that quickly you probably shouldn't be gambling

I still have funded accounts and play regularly at both Phoenix and Betmania.

**Eagle1958** · 03-27-11, 11:14 AM

Don't like them. Too many negatives to maKE me feel that my money is not safe there.

**Flight** · 03-27-11, 11:20 AM

I give them 7/10

Would be 9/10 if they had better payout options

$2000 limit on postal checks and $850 limits on money orders - not sure how you would ever withdraw more than 5k there

In terms of payout speed, I requested two money orders in March and was paid within 48 hours.

If you want a book with a very good bonus program, this is it

**Kaps** · 03-27-11, 11:42 AM

too many negatives out there .... not good

**KGambler** · 03-27-11, 12:01 PM

They are hands down the worst sports book I have ever used. They stole $3K from me. I was winning there, but one day I logged in to see that many 3, 4 and 5 team parlays had been placed on my account, 1-2 per minute. They were placed so close together (time-wise) that I don't know even know how the guy physically did it.

I immediately told them my account had been broken into. Despite the fact that many of the parlays consisted of games which hadn't even started yet, they waited until all of the parlays were certain losers before making their decision... all bets must stand. They free rolled me.

On another site someone told me how these things happen... the affiliates know customers' account details, including passwords. This reminded me of something SBR had told me. In their investigation they had told me that I had the same affiliate as someone who had had the exact same problem. The guy's name was "Alvin Ma". I have no idea how this guy became my afffiliate.

Eventually, I figured out why this happened. The affiliate only makes money on your account if you lose. BP refused to tell me how this guy became my affiliate or who he is. He is probably a friend of Richard's. They have a lot Vietnamese-American employees and customers.

Anyway, they are terrible.