Kobe Bryant Is The Most Overrated Player In NBA

[jsmithj88]

he doesnt need to win titles to make more money money is being thrown at him now. he is being given a shit load of money through contracts and endorsments AND HE HASNT WON ANYTHING if people would tell him, no title no money then he would want to win titles he wants to be a global icon, a larger than life figure. he doesnt need to win titles to do that i dont remember where i saw that interview with him where he said all that but its not what he said its how he said it. he doesnt care about winning titles, he just wants to make billions which is probably due to the morons he surrounds himself with and listens to

dude ur an idiot. how is he gonna become a global icon without winning any rings? hes not even the most popular nba star, that is still kobe. KOBE is the international ICON. the dude speaks 3 languages, is very popular in china, and HAS MANY MANY RINGS.

u think jordan or kobe is where they are today if they never won a ring? ur argument is stupid and makes NO SENSE.
every owner in the nba wants to win the title because u get playoff revenue, tickets, tv deals, merchandise, its all about cash. they know winning a title will make them and their team worth more $$$$$
if lebron wanted to be a billionaire, dont u think winning a title would make his brand better? more respected? more legit? dont u think he could make more money off of being an NBA champion than without it? wouldnt it be a lot easier to charge more for his name if he had a ring?
i mean ur not even being logical, its plain stupid what u are saying. lebron is famous because hes a NBA baller, y the hell would he not want the highest reward in the game?

[MWade]

game was easier when jordan played

[Cap dat 4ss]

lol comparing different era's of ball. Its fruitless. Kobe will go down as one of the greatest ever to play the game, period. He may or may not be one, but your opinion as well as mind means little. All that matters is that from here forward the media will give Kobe the Jordan treatment and cement his legacy. Like it or not guys, its true.

[bryant81]

This was just on NBA Gametime, where they broke it down and gave their own definition of clutch.

The scenario is: Since 06-07, Last 10 Seconds of 4th Quarter / Overtime, Tied or Down 1-3

Wade
FG - 5/43 (11.6%)
3 Point FG - 2/17 (11.8%)
Free Throws - 10/12 (83.3%)
Total Points - 22

LeBron
FG - 9/41 (22.0%)
3 Point FG - 1/21 (4.85%)
Free Throws - 12/15 (80.0%)
Total Points - 31

Kobe
FG - 13/37 (35.1%)
3 Point FG - 4/16 (25%)
Free Throws - 7/11 (63.6%)
Total Points - 37

*Noted Kobe's teammates are 6/30 (20%) in that same time span for those wondering but didn't note Wade's or LeBron's

What are your thoughts on those stats?

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[Qtip]

Kobe best closer in the game, hands down. Closing isn't just about making shots. Ever heard of clock management, defense, leadership, etc. newbie bull?

Not to mention at the end of the game they double Kobe. What do teams do vs Lebronze? They give him room so he will take the three cause they know he will miss.

[rsnnh12]

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Of course using the span that Kobe was better in will make him look better...

In playoffs, under 24 seconds, shot to tie/lead-
Kobe- 6/21 (28.5%)

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Kobe bryant is clutch..the best player in basketball..

[ParlayJunkie]

This moron who created this thread just wanted attention. Everybody gave it to him. No need to type respond to this clown about the obvious.

Thread ends.

[redbull]

Black Mamba
good shooting guard , but not the best one.
he must thank to his side kick , past : horry + shaq , morrison + mbenga
and present : gasol - odom - bynum.

[ebbearsfb1]

really morrison?? thats a joke, mbenga?



lol lebron looks like the best player in the nba, haha down 20 with his all star team to the worst team in the nba le choke

[Goat Milk]

its not just about stats. you talk about playoff numbers. did you know tracy mcgrady is (statistically) probably the 2nd or 3rd greatest playoff performer in nba history? The guy never got out of the first round, but stats show he is top 5 playoff performer of all time.

[sportman1313]

ABSOLUTELY AGREE.....ONE OF THE DUMBEST THREADS I'VE EVER SEEN. NO DOUBT THAT KOBE WILL BE REMEMBERED AS THE GREATEST PLAYER IN THE NBA, BETTER THAN JORDAN. ANYONE WHO DENIES THAT IS JUST KIDDING THEMSELVES...AND MBENGA REDBULL??? SERIOUSLY?????

This moron who created this thread just wanted attention. Everybody gave it to him. No need to type respond to this clown about the obvious.

Thread ends.

[hawley]

ABSOLUTELY AGREE.....ONE OF THE DUMBEST THREADS I'VE EVER SEEN. NO DOUBT THAT KOBE WILL BE REMEMBERED AS THE GREATEST PLAYER IN THE NBA, BETTER THAN JORDAN. ANYONE WHO DENIES THAT IS JUST KIDDING THEMSELVES...AND MBENGA REDBULL??? SERIOUSLY?????

You for real?

No doubt about it even?

[sportman1313]

hmmmm.....okay, i may have stretched it there with how I had written it but player by player I'd take kobe over jordan any day. When you take into account the talent and players in the game, I think kobe > jordan. I've seen enough of both players in my life to formulate this judgment....others may disagree but starting off a thread by saying kobe is overrated is just idiocy imo.

lol how u been hawley?

[Crazygamble]

he get good pay that all i know hahahaha

[hawley]

Will go on as forever as a great debate for sure. Just not sure either of them will ever be GOAT without a doubt


Good bro, how you been?

[8ArIvd5]

Atleast Bron has empathy and LET the Cavs win today.

When does Kobe let a team win?

[sportman1313]

i've been good....busy and all but so far killing the sony ericsson tourney, yet to lose a game but clijsters made me sweat like crazy and made a miraculous comeback from 5-1 down in 3rd set to beat ivanovic (had a lot riding on that one). Now sharapova is making me sweat like crazy after losing first set but she is up in 2nd set...playing horribly and I have close to 4.5k on this one, so pray she comes through.

Other than that though, doing well bro....been doing good on ur plays?

Will go on as forever as a great debate for sure. Just not sure either of them will ever be GOAT without a doubt


Good bro, how you been?

[jsmithj88]

i've been good....busy and all but so far killing the sony ericsson tourney, yet to lose a game but clijsters made me sweat like crazy and made a miraculous comeback from 5-1 down in 3rd set to beat ivanovic (had a lot riding on that one). Now sharapova is making me sweat like crazy after losing first set but she is up in 2nd set...playing horribly and I have close to 4.5k on this one, so pray she comes through. Other than that though, doing well bro....been doing good on ur plays?

y did u bet so much on sharapova? if she has a bad serving day shes done.
womens tennis is too volatile, esp. in non-major tourneys

[Dan Kelly]

Atleast Bron has empathy and LET the Cavs win today.

When does Kobe let a team win?

THAT is funny

[sportman1313]

man, you're telling me...I'd figure she would show up considering she has a pretty good draw now, with wozniacki and jankovic getting out (and clijsters going through a tough one against ivanovic which I won 1k on in a miraculous comeback down 5-1 in 3rd set). But boy oh boy, sharapova is really lucky to have won the 2nd set and now they're in the 3rd. She's having a horrible serving day, with 12 double faults....Now, I know dugheru's style matches up well against sharapova but pova's been gaining back her previous form and I figured she would be on a mission. Plus, with the exception of dugheru beating a tough Peng in previous round, she has never beaten a well-known and top-notch opponent. I must say though, I'm more than disappointed with sharapova's play so far in this match.....still though, I think she pulls it out here in the 3rd. I have yet to lose a bet in this open, and have made around 10k so far....hopefully sharapova comes through here, that would be 2 really lucky wins today. Tennis has been my bread and butter over the years (as has nfl more so than nba/college bball) and I've been more than successful at it, particularly on women's side lol. But yeah, it can be tough to play these games for sure and have had fortunate and unfortunate endings occur to me. BOL though...u play tennis games also bro?

y did u bet so much on sharapova? if she has a bad serving day shes done.
womens tennis is too volatile, esp. in non-major tourneys

[sportman1313]

i absolutely agree with you on the volatility in women's side in the non-majors, as is the case with the men's too....you get more favorable numbers though and this sony ericsson is one of the last tourneys before clay court season, more of the top notch players try to start playing more serious around this time.

y did u bet so much on sharapova? if she has a bad serving day shes done.
womens tennis is too volatile, esp. in non-major tourneys

[bleek88]

this thread went from kobe bryant to sharapova. lol i love u guys

[sportman1313]

my fault bleek, didn't mean to bro....man, sharapova down a break here in the 3rd thanks to unfaulty double breaks. Unbelievable, this is gonna go down the stretch, not lookin good rite now tho. I won't post it on here tho, bol all

this thread went from kobe bryant to sharapova. lol i love u guys

[slimstevie]

man, you're telling me...I'd figure she would show up considering she has a pretty good draw now, with wozniacki and jankovic getting out (and clijsters going through a tough one against ivanovic which I won 1k on in a miraculous comeback down 5-1 in 3rd set). But boy oh boy, sharapova is really lucky to have won the 2nd set and now they're in the 3rd. She's having a horrible serving day, with 12 double faults....Now, I know dugheru's style matches up well against sharapova but pova's been gaining back her previous form and I figured she would be on a mission. Plus, with the exception of dugheru beating a tough Peng in previous round, she has never beaten a well-known and top-notch opponent. I must say though, I'm more than disappointed with sharapova's play so far in this match.....still though, I think she pulls it out here in the 3rd. I have yet to lose a bet in this open, and have made around 10k so far....hopefully sharapova comes through here, that would be 2 really lucky wins today. Tennis has been my bread and butter over the years (as has nfl more so than nba/college bball) and I've been more than successful at it, particularly on women's side lol. But yeah, it can be tough to play these games for sure and have had fortunate and unfortunate endings occur to me. BOL though...u play tennis games also bro?

wozniacki

[FindTheLock]

I really don't like the lakers or Kobe, but he isn't the most over rated player, however, I do acknowledge Kobe wasn't even the best player on the lakers team he played on when Shaq was in his prime. Kobe is a very good player and will finish in the top 10 of all time. He isn't number 1,2,3,4, or 5 but he is somewhere in the top 10. I can easily think of 5 players from the NBA's past that I would rather have on my team than Kobe. Kobe isn't clutch either. He had the worst game 7 last season I have ever seen from any caliber player! He didn't deserve that Titles MVP at all, but he is a good player and he will be in the hall of fame.

[sportman1313]

she's out lol....i really like her though. OMG, please say it isn't so sharapova....about to be broken to be down 5-4 after being up 4-2 earlier in this set. Boy, this loss is gonna hurt

wozniacki

[sportman1313]

wow, i know this thread is about kobe and how he is supposedly overrated but wanted to update ya'll with sharapova lol....she got injured in 3rd set but still managed to win a tough dogfight in the tiebreak in 3rd set. Boy oh boy, both clijsters and sharapova win luckily for me....way too many close calls this open but a whopping 13-0 record for about 10.2k on it so far......she wins 3-6, 7-6, 7-6

BOL all

[jsmithj88]

man, you're telling me...I'd figure she would show up considering she has a pretty good draw now, with wozniacki and jankovic getting out (and clijsters going through a tough one against ivanovic which I won 1k on in a miraculous comeback down 5-1 in 3rd set). But boy oh boy, sharapova is really lucky to have won the 2nd set and now they're in the 3rd. She's having a horrible serving day, with 12 double faults....Now, I know dugheru's style matches up well against sharapova but pova's been gaining back her previous form and I figured she would be on a mission. Plus, with the exception of dugheru beating a tough Peng in previous round, she has never beaten a well-known and top-notch opponent. I must say though, I'm more than disappointed with sharapova's play so far in this match.....still though, I think she pulls it out here in the 3rd. I have yet to lose a bet in this open, and have made around 10k so far....hopefully sharapova comes through here, that would be 2 really lucky wins today. Tennis has been my bread and butter over the years (as has nfl more so than nba/college bball) and I've been more than successful at it, particularly on women's side lol. But yeah, it can be tough to play these games for sure and have had fortunate and unfortunate endings occur to me. BOL though...u play tennis games also bro?

yep. i had a thread going where i turned 1500 into close to 7k during the aussy open.
but then i got bombed by the nadal injury.
i will see u at the french open.

[sportman1313]

indeed brother, can't wait.....OO YEAH, I forgot who on here had told me that. That was you...yeah man, I remember that game vividly. Tough tough beat...he was injured and lost to Ferrer for first time ever I believe, instead of retiring in it. That was a tough beat indeed...I tell you what about Nadal though, even tho he's been playing better now he just hasn't been the same since his injuries. Still though, you cannot go against him in the French open lol....BOL man, and we'll certainly be in touch bro. Take care

yep. i had a thread going where i turned 1500 into close to 7k during the aussy open.
but then i got bombed by the nadal injury.
i will see u at the french open.

[oldscho0led]

its not just about stats. you talk about playoff numbers. did you know tracy mcgrady is (statistically) probably the 2nd or 3rd greatest playoff performer in nba history? The guy never got out of the first round, but stats show he is top 5 playoff performer of all time.

i hate stats...Stats misleads us...right LeBron??

[Pasadena69ers]

Lebron had to take a piss during introductions last night and missed it. What a F'ing joke....... KOBE would never pull that stunt, and I tell you what, If Dr.Buss pulled what that idiot Cavs owner pulled after "the Decision" Kobe would be coming back to LA every year, hammer the Lakers and then go to the sidelines and rub his nuts all over him. Lebron is a biotch

[STAY STRONG]

Will probably eat steak fajitas for lunch today.

[ebbearsfb1]

Lol did he really? What a bum.... and stats are useless half the time, lebron plays a lot in garbage to pad stats, also. Fg pct comparing lebron and kobe is stupid, lebron dunks 5x times the amount kobe does

[Pasadena69ers]

Yeap, Lebron was nowhere near the bench during player introductions