BetUS -- the real story -- Thieves and Liars!

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  • TOW
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-10-05
    • 152

    #36
    Kdawg,

    the player that approached me the other day had his dispute resolved in a matter of hours. Unfortunately I do not have details of your dispute (meaning sensitive data).

    Please understand that both SBR and TOW receive numerous requests for assistance each day. Both sites have more than one person working just to assist players.

    Sometimes we end up doing the same work twice, meaning players contact both sites without letting us (sbr and tow) know that.

    I'm certain Bill will be available, with your permission, to share sensitive data on your case and I'll certainly be more than glad to assist you.
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    • SBR_John
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-12-05
      • 16471

      #37
      You mean if you call BetUS they will not know which player is getting slow paid? Ask them how many slow pays they have currently!

      Anyway, TOW/Roberto you have buried yourself on this one, I won't pile on any more. Betonstars, BetUS, Richcoast, betonsports did I miss any dogs? Well BCN but forget about it. You do your think and we will do ours. Yes, its a shame but thats life. I need to be less judgemental, these are businesses and you should grab all you can....good luck.
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      • Chuck Sims
        SBR MVP
        • 12-29-05
        • 3072

        #38
        Originally posted by SBR_John
        SHOCKING NEWS JUST IN: TOW announces that BetUS is now a TOW advertiser!! Who would have ever thought it possible?! LOL
        Does Roberto have no shame? Damn, what the hell has gotten onto that guy? Has he sold his soul to the devil?
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        • babyJay
          SBR Rookie
          • 03-31-06
          • 5

          #39
          i just dont get it..
          i have been playing here for 7 months, won about 20k from them and they treat me like a king, give loyalty points, and pay me fast as hell. I even use them to scalp and find off lines. Why havent they kicked me out? just doesnt add up. Just curious they are rated real bad here and read the horror stories, but seems i hurt them more, yet they dont restrict/cut me off and keep paying me. After reading stories here, now i dont know should i keep playing or not.
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          • MidasPalace
            SBR Rookie
            • 03-04-06
            • 12

            #40
            Try to withdraw and see if they still treat you as good.

            Kdawg, have you been paid yet? If some people have been paid in hours, I don't know what the hold up is with you.
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            • babyJay
              SBR Rookie
              • 03-31-06
              • 5

              #41
              had several payouts most within same day. Why wouldnt they boot someone who plays for scalping mostly, and i have won 20k from them? They just keep paying.
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              • MidasPalace
                SBR Rookie
                • 03-04-06
                • 12

                #42
                I couldn't say. I hear all kinds of crazy things about this place. Some are plausable, some not so plausable. I even read someone say that it is secretly owned by Calvin Ayre. lol. I doubt that very seriously - if so, you definitely would get booted for scalping, or even for winning a game.
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                • Mudcat
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-21-05
                  • 9287

                  #43
                  Originally posted by babyJay
                  After reading stories here, now i dont know should i keep playing or not.

                  Based on the steady stream of complaints from multiple independant sources against BetUS which I have monitored for years, I would say that they just haven't gotten to you - yet.

                  I am of the belief that a smart man learns from his experience, but a wise man learns from the experience of others. Maybe it would be wise to look at the established BetUS pattern of behavior and stop pushing your luck.

                  Unquestionably, there are many better books out there that have not had steady streams of complaints for years.
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                  • Chuck Sims
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-29-05
                    • 3072

                    #44
                    TOW, Great business model you have. Promote crooks and scammers. But you'll help them get paid when these crooks rob the bettors. Wonderful.

                    "You mean if you call BetUS they will not know which player is getting slow paid? Ask them how many slow pays they have currently!

                    Anyway, TOW/Roberto you have buried yourself on this one, I won't pile on any more. Betonstars, BetUS, Richcoast, betonsports did I miss any dogs? Well BCN but forget about it. You do your think and we will do ours. Yes, its a shame but thats life. I need to be less judgemental, these are businesses and you should grab all you can....good luck."
                    Well said, SBRJohn.
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                    • Bill Dozer
                      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                      • 07-12-05
                      • 10894

                      #45
                      BetUs isn't stupid. There are some player that will always be treated well because it's profitable to keep them happy.

                      If you use your free-play on an underdog, they will flag your account. It doesn't matter if you are down overall or even if the free-play came with a reload.

                      BetUs is trying to have their cake and eat it, doing whatever they can to keep the winners from having their cash. Players refuse to give up the bonus and you can't blame them...It's a FREE-PLAY, meaning they actually won the money using one of their plays. If it was cash, some guys would say screw it but this is a bet they could have placed regardless of the free-play.

                      BetUs resorts to forcing players to roll their balance over using $50 to $100 limits or, if they flag the account after the client is eligible for his payout, forcing the player to go through the roll-over process a 2nd time.

                      This is one of the more milder complaints but the player will have to make an extra 300 bets to keep his winnings. That's assuming BetUs agrees to honor the latest terms.

                      Hi Bill,

                      My name is xxxxxxx and I have recently been reviewing articles on your website about complaints with BetUS. Like others, I to, am experiencing major problems with this site. I saw their add on MajorWager, offering a nice bonus and I decided to give them a try.

                      After depositing $5000 dollars and receiving a bonus, I have a total of $10,000 in the account from the bonus winnings and my other bet winnings. They are now labeling me as a "Steam Player," that's making them loss money! I bet $1000 dollars on several hockey games and won, and now I am in the mists of having my money, which is rightfully mine "held up." A BetUs Representative stated to me that they only deals with "recreational players". I don't think betting $1000 on several games, and maybe $2000 on a game I really like, should be labeled like this! If you ask other sports books about me, I'm 100% sure this will not be their description of what type of player I am!

                      BetUs now lowered my betting to $100. When I called they basically said "Take it or Leave it," and if I "leave it" they will take the winnings I won off my bonus. If I asked to be cashed out, they will take my winnings as well. I'm in a loss, loss situation and I did nothing against policy of their company. From the research I,ve done on this site, and now my own personal dilemma with them, I believe the winners are being targeted because they don't want to pay out the money we are winning with their sports-book.

                      One more note: I make all my wagers in the morning before I go to work. I'm not sitting at home all day waiting for lines to change.

                      Thank you for your time, I hope this email will help me as well as other players that may be in a similar situation
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                      • Kdawg
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 03-09-06
                        • 30

                        #46
                        UPDATE...I finally got PAID!!!!!!!!!
                        So it looks like we might finally have a 180 from BetUs. It seems that Kevin King came to BetUs a few weeks ago to clean up their mess and kudos to him for doing just that. I spoke with King directly and he agreed that my situation was handled miserably and he wanted to personally see that he made up for it and got me my money back. It took a little while, but in the end King came through and got me the money I was promised and a little something on top of that.
                        All I can say is thanks to Kevin King for righting BetUs's wrong and let's hope he stays in charge there for a long long time to come.
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                        • Illusion
                          Restricted User
                          • 08-09-05
                          • 25166

                          #47
                          Great news!!! Thanks for the update.
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                          • bookie
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 2112

                            #48
                            What happened to Mike Foreman? Is he out of the picture?
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                            • sportsallstar
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 03-20-07
                              • 11

                              #49
                              go to http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommission/ and file a complaint on betus they are registered with them and might be able to help, I did they got me for a $1200 check!
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                              • LargeMouthBass
                                Restricted User
                                • 03-18-07
                                • 1095

                                #50
                                Originally posted by babyJay
                                had several payouts most within same day. Why wouldnt they boot someone who plays for scalping mostly, and i have won 20k from them? They just keep paying.
                                Payouts most within same day? What option is this? They told me 10 business days through eCheck. You must work for BetUS.
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                                • Doug
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 6324

                                  #51
                                  post is almost a year old.
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                                  • trkwrigh
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 03-23-07
                                    • 8

                                    #52
                                    Is the only way to get some or most of your money back is to do a **********? What will the credit card company say when they find out its a gambling site?
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                                    • cwsulzba
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 03-21-07
                                      • 431

                                      #53
                                      I won 3 grand from them last November and they paid out right away. I had no problems.
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                                      • pags11
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 08-18-05
                                        • 12264

                                        #54
                                        bet us is a scam and a half...
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                                        • BettingProphets
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 08-13-05
                                          • 275

                                          #55
                                          Where Is Foreman???!!!!!
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                                          • witswits
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 12-29-06
                                            • 58

                                            #56
                                            Kdawg,
                                            If it helps this site helped me get a payout of over 40K from these crooks (almost 2 months). I did post up at 2 others and I was asked to say that I was paid and make betus look like they did me a favor in paying me.
                                            Well, they are the worst and I would NEVER EVER say a good thing about them. Excuse after excuse, delays and lies to beat all lies.
                                            Best excuse was it is "boxing day" in Canada and the banks are closed.
                                            If you get your funds run from this site.
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                                            • mavs_fan
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 02-05-07
                                              • 10

                                              #57
                                              i'm still waiting on my payout from about a month....
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                                              • tblues2005
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-30-06
                                                • 9235

                                                #58
                                                mavs fan best of luck with your payout.. I feel for you guys that are owed by these jerks, they deserve to be the ones that are next on the U.S. list not the good ones.
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                                                • Jamie_UK
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-12-07
                                                  • 1103

                                                  #59
                                                  Bet"in US" -- the real story -- Thieves and Liars!

                                                  Bush screwed you, get over it.
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                                                  • bpinbedwithak
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 03-26-07
                                                    • 11

                                                    #60
                                                    whats up with kck? Does he still work there??
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