I really don't want this to be lumped with the other threads about creditwagering, and blackdog, im just trying to understand how this whole thing got so out of control! I have read this site for years, and listened to one poster after another talk about " Only play at A books " " You get a huge bonus you won't get paid ", and the like. I can tell you that I have played at the greek for about 9 years now, after going through scam books like carribean sports, I -wager, and the like. I only play at Vip, thegreek, betjm, 5 dimes, the pig, because no matter what i have gotten paid everytime, and the only real complaints have been cust service related! I don't understand why so many posters on here took the risk of playing at this place, with no knowledge of the founders, and backers of this place! They were willing to give out whatever info they asked for as long as they could play on credit. Why not just find a local if that is what you want? To me this is exactly why these scam books exists in the first place, because even though we on this site know the scam books are out there, and what the signs of a scam book are, such as huge bonus with low rollover, not allowing SBR to visit, no real plan for a downturn in business, bad lines. It seems as though the fools here can't help but keep falling into the traps left by these people. I don't feel sorry for these people when they don't get paid, they deserve i! Do your research, and play at the books that pay! You win 2000 that day you should get paid, no questions asked other then how you want to be paid.