Billy Martin
Lou Holtz
Bob Knight
Mike Ditka
Don Cherry
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The Seer
SBR Posting Legend
10-29-07
10641
#37
Originally posted by buztah
Billy Martin
Lou Holtz
Bob Knight
Mike Ditka
Don Cherry
Holtz is one of the greatest motivators ever. He makes millions form companies as a motivational speaker. Anyone who hasn't heard him should do so.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#38
Originally posted by The Seer
So you are saying he had nothing to do with getting the talent there in the first place? Interesting. I always thought it was part of the job to get that talent. I put him there because he is one of the best talent evaluaters ever and that is part of the job. Switzer won with Johnson's talent so no, I would not put him on the list. I could argue for or against anyone on these lists. Phil Jackson had the best players in the league when he won so did John Wooden. It was Johnson that chose to take Troy Aikman when everyone else wanted Tony Mandarich.
Johnson made few decisions that he was not told to make and Troy Aikmen? i mean thats a nice pick but he's not what made the team. He was the 4th or 5th best player on that offense. Jimmy Johnson didn't trade Walker, in fact he left the Boys because of Jerry's controlling nature. Then he went to Miami and did what, exactly?
btw, didnt the canes win a national title the year before Johnson got there? they have the most players in the NFL now and they have for years. Miami grows talent, i wouldn't give him all the credit. Hes been a great coach, but certainly not one of the top 5 of all time.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#39
Originally posted by The Seer
Holtz is one of the greatest motivators ever. He makes millions form companies as a motivational speaker. Anyone who hasn't heard him should do so.
My mom doesn't like the guy. I think she calls him a pig.
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buztah
SBR Hall of Famer
03-23-07
7470
#40
Originally posted by The Seer
Holtz is one of the greatest motivators ever. He makes millions form companies as a motivational speaker. Anyone who hasn't heard him should do so.
Agreed. I saw a pre-game interview once where he basically said his guys were just happy to play the other team and knew they really couldn't compete with em. Well that naturally fired up ND and they came out blazin' and won. LOL! Good motivator for sure!
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thegreatdiatchi
SBR MVP
03-07-08
1154
#41
Originally posted by swede96
Why is he getting no love?
So help me lucifer if anyone calls him a cheat....
Well from what I read it turns out they actually videotaped every NFL team except for the Chiefs (they felt KC wasn't competitive enough). Then further down it said they used the Chiefs tapes for the Super Bowl. (You could tell by the offensive performance for that game)
I'm sorry but Billy can't even shine the shoes of Lombardi.
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The Seer
SBR Posting Legend
10-29-07
10641
#42
Originally posted by mofome
Johnson made few decisions that he was not told to make and Troy Aikmen? i mean thats a nice pick but he's not what made the team. He was the 4th or 5th best player on that offense. Jimmy Johnson didn't trade Walker, in fact he left the Boys because of Jerry's controlling nature. Then he went to Miami and did what, exactly?
btw, didnt the canes win a national title the year before Johnson got there? they have the most players in the NFL now and they have for years. Miami grows talent, i wouldn't give him all the credit. Hes been a great coach, but certainly not one of the top 5 of all time.
It wasn't til later that Jones starting taking more control over personel. At the beginning it was mostly Johnson and Larry Lacewell. Johnson was FOR trading Walker. Johnson was for getting Emmitt Smith. He drafted Leon Lett after he went and watched him play a basketball game. He also pushed to get speed over size which was a huge key for them at that time. He knew they would have a better chance to win with speed on defense and they did. Notice how the Cowboys started on a decline after he left. Sure Switzer won one but they still had plenty of good years left but couldn't get back to that level. Aikman and Emmitt and those guys had only been in the league for 5 or 6 years at that point. Miami was too much of an aging team. He would have had to gut it. He did draft Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor which have been probably the two best players on that team since.
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thegreatdiatchi
SBR MVP
03-07-08
1154
#43
Holtz was another ND great but I think Knute was better and he's not even on my top 5.
Jimmy Johnson is the most overrated coach in the history of professional sports. Anybody could win with the talent he had.
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swede96
SBR MVP
12-05-07
3875
#44
Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi
Well from what I read it turns out they actually videotaped every NFL team except for the Chiefs (they felt KC wasn't competitive enough). Then further down it said they used the Chiefs tapes for the Super Bowl. (You could tell by the offensive performance for that game)
I'm sorry but Billy can't even shine the shoes of Lombardi.
1. Don't believe everything you read.
2. Is anyone here actually stupid enough to think that no other NFL team has taped things they shouldn't have?
3. Belichick is a great coach and a good man. Anyone who says different is either on the anti-Pats bandwagon or is just plain stupid.
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2Pac
SBR MVP
12-12-07
1474
#45
Originally posted by mofome
because you know how good the Vols tradition is, so why would a smart man like yourself be surprised?
Tennessee football tradition not even in top 5
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thegreatdiatchi
SBR MVP
03-07-08
1154
#46
Originally posted by swede96
1. Don't believe everything you read.
2. Is anyone here actually stupid enough to think that no other NFL team has taped things they shouldn't have?
3. Belichick is a great coach and a good man. Anyone who says different is either on the anti-Pats bandwagon or is just plain stupid.
1 & 2. The video statements were jokes in order to bring out the numbers 18-1.
3a. Belichick is a very good coach - maybe tops in the league right now. However, his attitude towards the media stinks and he was blatantly unprofessional when he lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl. On top of this LT also had an issue with him in the 2006 playoffs.
3b. Remember Belichick with the Cleveland Browns? Schottenheimer had that team in the playoffs and what did he do to them? Finished with a 36-44 record in 4 years and based on his performance, many fans in Cleveland think of him as an uncommunicative, dictatorial and arrogant coach who made many questionable moves, including benching and then cutting much-beloved quarterback Bernie Kosar in 1993 in order to replace him with Vinny Testaverde, a move that sparked great controversy in the area.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#47
Originally posted by 2Pac
Tennessee football tradition not even in top 5
Ranked the #1 gameday atmosphere by many. They have a recent title, they have the only team to ever hold their opposition scoreless for an entire year, they put as many players into the nfl as anyone.
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swede96
SBR MVP
12-05-07
3875
#48
Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi
3a. Belichick is a very good coach - maybe tops in the league right now. However, his attitude towards the media stinks and he was blatantly unprofessional when he lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl. On top of this LT also had an issue with him in the 2006 playoffs.
Belichick is a coach. He cares about his team, not the media. I have a feeling he would never even speak to them if he could help it. Unprofessional or pissed off at himself and his team for blowing it? And who doesn't LT have a problem with? Seriously, that guy has no right to make any assumptions on anyone else's class level.
3b. Remember Belichick with the Cleveland Browns? Schottenheimer had that team in the playoffs and what did he do to them? Finished with a 36-44 record in 4 years and based on his performance, many fans in Cleveland think of him as an uncommunicative, dictatorial and arrogant coach who made many questionable moves, including benching and then cutting much-beloved quarterback Bernie Kosar in 1993 in order to replace him with Vinny Testaverde, a move that sparked great controversy in the area.
Well, Pats fans love the guy...so what's your point?
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2Pac
SBR MVP
12-12-07
1474
#49
Originally posted by mofome
Ranked the #1 gameday atmosphere by many. They have a recent title, they have the only team to ever hold their opposition scoreless for an entire year, they put as many players into the nfl as anyone.
recruiting violations
a whole slew of criminal charges against players
very poor academic standards
i agree that the atmosphere at Neyland is amazing.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#50
Originally posted by 2Pac
recruiting violations
a whole slew of criminal charges against players
very poor academic standards
i agree that the atmosphere at Neyland is amazing.
Academic standards are not considered 'very poor' these days. Recruiting violations? well then i guess bama doesn't have tradition either? anything you can list against the vols is mild at best.
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BadNina
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11-27-07
10491
#51
Adolph Rupp
Vince Lombardi
Bear Bryant
Pat Summitt
Rod DeDeaux
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mofome
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12-19-07
13003
#52
Originally posted by BadNina
Adolph Rupp
Vince Lombardi
Bear Bryant
Pat Summitt
Rod DeDeaux
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Kellen
SBR MVP
01-19-08
3484
#53
Holtz sure couldnt motivate anyone at SC. Bellicheat shouldnt be on any list. Id say Spurrier is a candidate. if you only look at his College Career. Of course Im gonna say Bobby Cox since Im a Braves fan. Plus he has the most ejections all time, gotta love that. I really like Coach K at Duke. Bob Knight could make the list as well. Its tough to really narrow it down to top 5 all time.
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Tsoprano
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04-14-08
26374
#54
Dont know about 5, but for sure:
Bobby Knight and..
current -
Doc Rivers, he really put together the best team, rolls with the deepest bench there is. Went and got guys out of retirement that are killin it out there and knows what it takes to ensure blow outs every night.
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The Seer
SBR Posting Legend
10-29-07
10641
#55
Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi
Jimmy Johnson is the most overrated coach in the history of professional sports. Anybody could win with the talent he had.
Again, he was responsible for alot of that talent. Younger people don't know about the rebuilding job he did at Okl. State that got him the Miami job to begin with not to mention what he did as an assistant.
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The Seer
SBR Posting Legend
10-29-07
10641
#56
Originally posted by Kellen
Holtz sure couldnt motivate anyone at SC. Bellicheat shouldnt be on any list. Id say Spurrier is a candidate. if you only look at his College Career. Of course Im gonna say Bobby Cox since Im a Braves fan. Plus he has the most ejections all time, gotta love that. I really like Coach K at Duke. Bob Knight could make the list as well. Its tough to really narrow it down to top 5 all time.
Holtz turned around a pathetic SC team that went on to beat some good Ohio State teams in bowl games. He's did as good as spurrier there where recruiting is a challenge. Cox choked more games away than Marv Levy with as much talent. Belichick has forgotten more football than most coaches will ever know.
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BadNina
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11-27-07
10491
#57
Now, Mo, the man won at every school he was at with possibly the fewest Heismann players ever. He had the ability to get more out of lower talent players than some coaches can get out of blue chippers. I see some of that in Houston Nutt now. The ability to mold young players like that, IMO, is a sign of a great coach.
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mofome
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-07
13003
#58
Originally posted by BadNina
Now, Mo, the man won at every school he was at with possibly the fewest Heismann players ever. He had the ability to get more out of lower talent players than some coaches can get out of blue chippers. I see some of that in Houston Nutt now. The ability to mold young players like that, IMO, is a sign of a great coach.
The SEC has less Heisman winners than Ohio State, so im not sure what your point is there. the SEC didn't matter with regard to the heisman until about a week ago. Neyland whooped him.
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BadNina
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-07
10491
#59
Not every time, my biased friend. And I wasn't just referring to the Alabama history. I also include Maryland, Kentucky and A&M.
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mofome
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12-19-07
13003
#60
Originally posted by BadNina
Not every time, my biased friend. And I wasn't just referring to the Alabama history. I also include Maryland, Kentucky and A&M.
md 1 year and had to leave because MD was too tough for him
am he was 1-9 one year? i forget the rest, but 1-9 is not up to neyland standards.
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seaborneq
SBR Posting Legend
09-08-06
22556
#61
Coach K
Pat Summitt
Old Ball Coach Spurrier
Jim Leyland
Belicheat
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Sportsgirl
SBR MVP
09-10-06
4493
#62
Chuch Noll
Vince Lombardi
Phil Jackson
Tom Landry
Mike Krzyzewski
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BadNina
SBR Posting Legend
11-27-07
10491
#63
Originally posted by mofome
md 1 year and had to leave because MD was too tough for him
am he was 1-9 one year? i forget the rest, but 1-9 is not up to neyland standards.
Left Maryland to go to Kentucky. You are so biased it's cute.
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jackpot269
SBR Posting Legend
09-24-07
12819
#64
Originally posted by mofome
The SEC has less Heisman winners than Ohio State, so im not sure what your point is there. the SEC didn't matter with regard to the heisman until about a week ago. Neyland whooped him.
How many National Titles did he have how many games total did he win?
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jackpot269
SBR Posting Legend
09-24-07
12819
#65
Originally posted by mofome
because you know how good the Vols tradition is, so why would a smart man like yourself be surprised?
they do have tradition and play in a ever demanding confence i really don't know that much about Gen Neyland im sure he was a great coach!!!!!!