Justin's top 10 in NCAAB

[MartinBlank]

How does Wisconsin earn such respect?

ND beat them by 8 on a neutral court.

ND has beaten 3 of those top 10---2 on the road or on a neutral court, and they are ranked behind BYU and SD State?

Pitt beat Texas---and they are ranked behind Texas.

[Justin7]

How does Wisconsin earn such respect?

ND beat them by 8 on a neutral court.

ND has beaten 3 of those top 10---2 on the road or on a neutral court, and they are ranked behind BYU and SD State?

Pitt beat Texas---and they are ranked behind Texas.

Of the top 10 teams, Wisconsin has the second most difficult strength of schedule. Only Georgetown has a tougher schedule (which was insanely tough compared to the others.).

[MartinBlank]

Of the top 10 teams, Wisconsin has the second most difficult strength of schedule. Only Georgetown has a tougher schedule (which was insanely tough compared to the others.).

I am looking at Wisconsin's schedule-----and I don't see it.

And that makes me question how these guys quantify "difficulty".

Wisconsin has one road win against a top 25-ish team. And that was Minnesota.

I am not trying to beat the ND horse---but just objectively take a look at ND's schedule and compare it to Wisconsin's. The "numbers" may say Wisconsin, but the eye test sure points to ND's schedule.

ND won on the road at Pitt, beat Wisconsin on a neutral court---and they are only one of 2 teams with 3 top 10 wins (Also beating Georgetown and Connecticut). Additionally, they played Kentucky, on the road against Syracuse, Georgia, and Gonzaga.

For the record, I am impressed with Wisconsin. They are a very good team, I am just not ready to place them among the top 2 teams in college basketball.

This is a good thread, lots of good discussion.

[big0mar]

Who's rankings are these????

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[d2bets]

Rank Team Power
1 Duke 26.84
2 Wisconin 23.96
3 Texas 23.94
4 Pittsburgh 23.94
5 BYU 23.56
6 SD St 22.62
7 OSU 20.24
8 Kansas 19.88
9 ND 18.44
10 Georgetown16.26

These power rankings are from Colossus. The Coach's poll has it all wrong.

For simplified spread generating, use the power rankings... This is how many points that team is better than an "average" team. HFA is worth about 3.75.

Wisconsin is not the second best team in the country. GTF outta here. They're almost unbeatable at home, but if we're talking tournament time, all neutral floors, they are not even top 10 material.

[d2bets]

My top 10 if we're talking neutral floor tournament type setting would be:
1. Ohio State
2. Duke
3. Pitt
4. Texas
5. Kansas
6. BYU
7. Georgetown
8. San Diego St.
9. North Carolina
10. Arizona

[LT Profits]

LT's Top 10:

1 - Texas
2 - Ohio State
3 - Duke
4 - Kansas
5 - Pittsburgh
6 - Purdue
7 - BYU
8 - Wisconsin
9 - San Diego State
10 - Georgetown

[BettingWizard]

Rank Team Power
1 Duke 26.84
2 Wisconin 23.96
3 Texas 23.94
4 Pittsburgh 23.94
5 BYU 23.56
6 SD St 22.62
7 OSU 20.24
8 Kansas 19.88
9 ND 18.44
10 Georgetown16.26

These power rankings are from Colossus. The Coach's poll has it all wrong.

For simplified spread generating, use the power rankings... This is how many points that team is better than an "average" team. HFA is worth about 3.75.

So Kansas would be a dog to everybody on this list on the road? LMAO

ND -2

Duke -10

Pitt -8

that's what some lines would be


terrible rankings. We're supposed to take this seriously?

[big0mar]

Did we ever find out who Colossus is?????????????

[james4512]

Top 10 low profile teams in no particular order you will see in the NCAA tournament.

Old Dominion
Wichita State
George Mason
Richmond
UAB
Cleveland State
Fair Field
Furman
St Mary's
Memphis

this is a very solid list but you are missing two teams, Oakland and College of Charleston

[LT Profits]

this is a very solid list but you are missing two teams, Oakland and College of Charleston

Also maybe Utah State and Belmont.

[Glitch]

So Kansas would be a dog to everybody on this list on the road? LMAO

ND -2

Duke -10

Pitt -8

that's what some lines would be

terrible rankings. We're supposed to take this seriously?

not sure, just a guess but:

i dont think he actually means spread on the books, i think he means the actual point differential when the game is played. and i can see all of those results being realistic (possible).

so if its kansas -7 against notre dame, thats a 9 point difference in these projections and the spread vegas created off the hype machine and last years teams and big name players and everything else they use. meaning notre dame +7 would be a pretty good bet.