Justin's Arena Play of the Week?

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  • HedgeHog
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-11-07
    • 10128

    #1
    Justin's Arena Play of the Week?
    Just wondering if we'll get another gem like last week (Orlando ).
  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #2
    im waiting on this one as well.
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    • Justin7
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      • 07-31-06
      • 8577

      #3
      I can't give it out it until I'm done betting it I'll post it later today.
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      • mofome
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        • 12-19-07
        • 13003

        #4
        Originally posted by Justin7
        I can't give it out it until I'm done betting it I'll post it later today.


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        • HedgeHog
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-11-07
          • 10128

          #5
          Tease!!!
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          • louisvillekid
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-14-07
            • 9263

            #6
            something seems fishy about that game to me, Orlando only favored 2.5 over the shitty Rampage, i know the Predators lost alot of good vets on D from free agency and they have like 9-10 rookies, but the D has come around, Gruden has always preached D with his team, and they switched Allison from DB to Jack LB and Moye-Moore is now the Mac LB. the Rampage might of looked good putting up 92 and 84 points against K.C. and L.A., but against teams that can play D , they only scored 35 against the Rush and 34 against the Dragons, and of course got blown out in those games. i ain't touching this game.
            you can listen to that game if it ain't on TV in your area at......
            540wfla

            i'm on the Blaze cause they got Joe Germaine as QB thats all i need, and i was high on the Voodoo from the beginning and still am, and i like the Crush, i'm not sold on the new look Gladiators since they moved from Vegas to Cleveland.

            Crush +3
            VooDoo +6.5
            Blaze +2
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            • HedgeHog
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-11-07
              • 10128

              #7
              LVkid: My reference to Orlando in the first post is about Justin's big winner last week. They were a TD 'dog that won outright. FWIW, I'm on Cleve ML tonite...-125.
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              • Justin7
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-31-06
                • 8577

                #8
                My best bets of the week is Orlando-2.5 over Grand Rapids.

                Grand Rapids has been the Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hide team, at least looking at scoreboards. In back to back weeks, they put up 83 and 84 teams under new QB McPherson before crashing into New York. But look closer at those two high scoring games... They were +5 on turnovers against a KC QB no longer there, and +4 in turnovers against LAA, including 3 fumbles for 28 defensive points.

                One way to gauge a team's strength of schedule (SOS) rating is to take its opponents' combined records, after removing games with that team (so teams that blow out opponents don't look weaker due to an "easier schedule" for all teams losing 1 game to them). Orlando has an adjusted SOS rating of 0.6 (18-12) verus 0.33 for Grand Rapids (8-16). Despite facing a schedule nearly twice as difficult, Orlando is 4-2, versus GRR's 2-4 record.

                Grand Rapids' new QB MacPherson (not to be confused with McPherson) threw 4 picks last week against an average NY defense. His overall passer rating is now about 95, versus 113 for Orlando. 95 doesn't cut it in Arena.

                Every angle I have on this game makes Orlando a large favorite - I make it 8.5. This is my best bet this week, and I'd take Orlando at up to -3.5.
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                • Justin7
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                  • 07-31-06
                  • 8577

                  #9
                  Edit - 92 and 84 point sby GRR.
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                  • Iwinyourmoney
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                    • 04-18-07
                    • 18368

                    #10
                    I on with ya Justin, lets cash
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                    • donjuan
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-29-07
                      • 3993

                      #11
                      Justin,

                      How often does the 3 push in Arena?
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                      • HedgeHog
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-11-07
                        • 10128

                        #12
                        I got them at -2.5 at Wager Street, but they've already moved to 3 and 3.5 everywhere else I checked.
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                        • Justin7
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-31-06
                          • 8577

                          #13
                          Originally posted by donjuan
                          Justin,

                          How often does the 3 push in Arena?
                          The 3 hits about as often as the 7 - 6.5 to 7%.
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                          • HedgeHog
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-11-07
                            • 10128

                            #14
                            Originally posted by donjuan
                            Justin,

                            How often does the 3 push in Arena?
                            Every time the Fav is -3 and wins by that many.

                            Actually it's a great question as I have a few places that I can by on/off the 3 for 10 cents. Is it worth it?
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                            • donjuan
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-29-07
                              • 3993

                              #15
                              Justin,

                              Thanks for that. There are still a few -2.5s out there as of this post.
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                              • Justin7
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-31-06
                                • 8577

                                #16
                                Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                Every time the Fav is -3 and wins by that many.

                                Actually it's a great question as I have a few places that I can by on/off the 3 for 10 cents. Is it worth it?
                                If an arena game is lined on a 3 or 7 and you can buy a half-point for 10 cents, you should always buy it.

                                If you can buy 2 half-points for 20 cents to cross a 3 or 7, you should always buy both.

                                In this case, I'd rather bet Orlando early, and get it at -2.5 for -110, instead of -130
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                                • freeVICK
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                                  • 01-21-08
                                  • 7114

                                  #17
                                  i dont think its a good idea. in arena football they score so much and miss so many extra points, 3 and 7 dont really make a diff
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                                  • Justin7
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-31-06
                                    • 8577

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by hawaii04
                                    i dont think its a good idea. in arena football they score so much and miss so many extra points, 3 and 7 dont really make a diff
                                    The numbers would disagree with your hypothesis.

                                    Similar to NFL, teams go for 2 when it will put them on a "7" or "3". They'll go for 2 to get on a "6" if it's their last drive also.
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                                    • pokernut9999
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-25-07
                                      • 12757

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Justin7
                                      The numbers would disagree with your hypothesis.

                                      Similar to NFL, teams go for 2 when it will put them on a "7" or "3". They'll go for 2 to get on a "6" if it's their last drive also.
                                      Justin, quick question for you. Do they have 2 point conversions in AFL? Watched one game this year and there were a lot of missed PAT's and no one tried a 2 pt conversion. Then with a minute left the team trailing by 8 scored a TD and kicked instead of going for 2.
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                                      • HedgeHog
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-11-07
                                        • 10128

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                        Justin, quick question for you. Do they have 2 point conversions in AFL? Watched one game this year and there were a lot of missed PAT's and no one tried a 2 pt conversion. Then with a minute left the team trailing by 8 scored a TD and kicked instead of going for 2.
                                        Yes, they can go for two. Don't know the game you're referring too, but that coach that didn't go for the tie that late in the game, should be fired for stupidity.
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                                        • durito
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-03-06
                                          • 13173

                                          #21
                                          I just picked up 2.5 at the greek
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                                          • pokernut9999
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-25-07
                                            • 12757

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                            Yes, they can go for two. Don't know the game you're referring too, but that coach that didn't go for the tie that late in the game, should be fired for stupidity.
                                            Just looked up the rules, saw where you can drop kick for 2 also. The game was week 5 Phil/TB 59-51. They scored with a little over 3 minutes (thought it was a mnute or so ) Just seem like you would try to tie even with 3 minutes left. Other team scored again with less than a minute anyway.
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                                            • louisvillekid
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                                              • 08-14-07
                                              • 9263

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                              Just looked up the rules, saw where you can drop kick for 2 also. The game was week 5 Phil/TB 59-51. They scored with a little over 3 minutes (thought it was a mnute or so ) Just seem like you would try to tie even with 3 minutes left. Other team scored again with less than a minute anyway.
                                              especially, considering the clock hardly ever stops running.
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                                              • Justin7
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-31-06
                                                • 8577

                                                #24
                                                Only one thing to say after a game like that... Cha-ching!

                                                On a minor note, my "Arena weekly Best bets" are now 5-1 on the year. Better pass on it next week, since I'm due for a loss...
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                                                • durito
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                  • 13173

                                                  #25
                                                  nice job justin

                                                  az a winner too
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                                                  • diogee
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                                                    • 01-11-08
                                                    • 19477

                                                    #26
                                                    Nice job once again Justin...you kill in the Arena league.
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                                                    • Iwinyourmoney
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-18-07
                                                      • 18368

                                                      #27
                                                      Justin thanks for the pick! I went heavy on it after a bad last couple of days. My bookie laughed at me when I placed the bet. I'm the only person who has ever bet afl with him and it worked. Thanks again dude
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                                                      • Richkas
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                                                        • 02-03-08
                                                        • 19396

                                                        #28
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                                                        • katstale
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-07-07
                                                          • 3924

                                                          #29
                                                          I don't pay that much attention to picks at this site, but this once I went with the hot hand.

                                                          Kudos to you Justin!!!!
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                                                          • HedgeHog
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-11-07
                                                            • 10128

                                                            #30
                                                            I hit Orlando and Arizona. Both easy winners--thanks, Justin.
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                                                            • mcpa
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 05-02-08
                                                              • 14

                                                              #31
                                                              arena football rocks!!! just remember curt warner #13 for the retro rams!!
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