(i am downgrading bet phoenix)

[Extra Innings]

omg, i don't like the sound of this. 7 months ago, johnny was telling us how BP is one of the safest books out there because they have backers with huge pockets. now he's telling us here we should stick with A+ books and not books like BP. holy cow. is johnny telling us now that BP is a crappy book??

Also, i hated 1 post in this thread. one guy said win4real is stiffing players and i find out that they are a sister book of sportsbetting.com. then i read SBR complaints and find out they are stiffing a guy for 90k.. wtf man.. i just sent sportsbetting.com lots of money and they keep calling me everyday to send more and more and i already have tons in my acct there AND they are giving me 65% to 75% cash each day and they want me to send more.. I don't like the sound of this one bit. Is this a shady book?? am i going to get stiffed here?? i swear i better not get stiffed by these guys. Hey billy boy and Johnny, is Sportsbetting.com a stiff book?? I researched them and they seemed ok..

[Fishhead]

Fishhead??????????????????

For Christ Sakes

He is in the running for SBR Man Of The Year

..........so?

[julio_cat]

The time policies ar known, and sometimes you receive your money a couple of days before the deadline.
Thie original discussion was diverted.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

JJGOLD READ LENNY'S RULES BUT SOMEHOW SBR JOHN DIDNT READ THE RULES

SBR FRAUD/JOHN HASNT A LEG TO STAND ON IN THE CASCADE CASE HE TOLD ME ON THE PHONE LENNY WAS YELLING AT HIM AND HE ISNT GOING TO BUDGE CASE CLOSED.GREAT WATCHDOG HUH FELLAS

I BET YOU GOT THE ADVERTISING MONEY THAT MONTH SBR FRAUD DIDNT YOU.

(ALL WAGERS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP UNTIL THE POSTED STARTING TIME OF THE EVENT)

DOES THAT RING A BELL SBR FRAUD/JOHN

A SPORTSBOOM BREAKS THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES AND STEALL 660 DOLLARS AND SBR JOHN THINKS THIS IS O.K. WATCHDOG MY ARSE

[BEANTOWNJIM]

BUMP I AM STILL WAITING FOR SBR FRAUDS RESPONSE

HE OWES ME AN APOLOGY FOR ALLOWING LENNY AND CASCADE THE OPERTUNITY TO ROB ME OUT OF 660 DOLLARS

[legendmatt34]

Betphoenix is a bunch of shady crooks. Boycott!

[jjgold]

Jimmy you were robbed

I will never forget it

[Doug]

Phoenix doesn't hide this delay on paying but they should work to correct it and pay like 5D or Betjam timewise.

[big0mar]

UNREAL

Jimmy you should be commended for how you've handled this

If I were in your position there would be a lot of heads rolling

[SBR_John]

Beaner I'm sorry you took a shot and past posted a late bet and still managed to lose. Then I'm REALLY sorry you've cried about it for 7 years or actually it was 8 years ago. We do not go to bat for past posting shot takers. That has been the policy for 11 years.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

LET ME GUESS SBR FRAUD I MEAN JOHN YOU DID TAKE THE ADVERTISING MONEY FROM LENNY THAT MONTH DIDNT YOU

SO I GUESS THE OTHER SHOT TAKER LENNY WHO BREAKS HIS OWN WRITTEN RULES IS O.K. IN YOUR BOOK AS LONG AS HE PAID YOUR ADVERTISING FEE

SEE BOYS SBR JOHN WONT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT LENNY BECAUSE HE IS AFFRAID OF HIM EVEN NOW.

I GUESS LENNY WASNT A SHOT TAKER IN SBR JOHNS BOOK HE JUST WATCHED THE WHOLE GAME THEN WHEN HE SAW MY BET LOSE HE SAYS YOU HAD ACTION BEANTOWNJIM WE ACCEPTED YOUR BET AND SBR JOHN CALLS ME A SHOT TAKER

WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE ADVERTISING MONEY LENNY GAVE YOU SBR JOHN HOW COULD YOU LOOK IN THE MIRROR YOU COWARD

[BEANTOWNJIM]

HEY SBR JOHN WHY DONT YOU ASK RICHARD HOW HE WOULD HAVE GRADED THAT BET AT CASCADE SPORTSBOOK HE WAS WORKING FOR LENNY AT THE TIME HE TOLD ME IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO BET SO F-CK OFF WITH YOUR SHOT TAKEN BULLSHIT THE ONLY PERSON WHO TOOK A SHOT WAS LENNY BECAUSE HE STOLE THE 660 DOLLARS YOU FRAUD

DID YOU ENJOY YOUR ADVERTISING MONEY FROM LENNY AND CASCADE SBR JOHN

[jjgold]

Jimmy Lenny watched whole game too praying your bet would lose

I wonder why he is rich, he takes shots at players

[BEANTOWNJIM]

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT JJGOLD BUT SBR FRAUD/JOHN DOESNT SEE IT THAT WAY AS LONG AS HE GOT HIS ADVERTISING MONEY HE DIDNT GIVE A F-CK ABOUT THE PLAYERS

SBR JOHN WAS SO AFFRAID OF LENNY AND CASCADE SPORTSBOOK THEY MIGHT DROP HIM FROM THE ADVERTISING AND LENNY YELLED AT POOR SBR JOIHN

THE F-CKING COWARD SOLD OUT FOR THE ADVERTISING MONEY EVERYBODY SAW THIS SBR JOHN SO YOUR NOT FOOLING ANYBODY BUT YOURSELF

[MBENZ]

Jimmy Lenny watched whole game too praying your bet would lose

I wonder why he is rich, he takes shots at players

Why didn't Beanbrain call Cascade when he was ahead and knew the game was already being played to inform them of what happened?????He didn't start whining until it was over and he lost.There is a thread at another site where he admitted he had an advantage and when I find it,it will be posted and we will let the posters decide who took the shot.

[djefferis]

Just read this entire thread...2 thoughts come to mind.

1. BP really needs to develop their own processor. They have the resources financially, they have the talent and if they did they could dominate the space.

They likely won't for fear of running afoul of the US govt, but they should. Every year following football season they seem to get slow paying out (as do other shops).

2. BTJ (and others) need to accept the cost of payouts has increased. BP can pay you via **/**, but it cost more. If you want -105 lines there are few choices, and all have their issues. BP issue is payouts for more than a dime and the time factor. Personally, I'd take BP or 5D and their cost over others who offer free payouts but have a much more limited track record.

3. The whole cascade thing is a joke. Clearly no one is getting paid by them, so arguing who is right is a moot point. Was BTJ taking a shot, mabeye...but the burden of proof is on the book. If they can't show it was a shot taker, they needed to cancel the bet and either decline his future action or as most shops would do be very clear any future incidents would be grounds for account revocation and forfeiture of potential winnings if he tried to game the system again. Any issues with other shops are totally unrelated to the question at hand. Shot taking has to be proven to be a punishable offense. No proof, no foul..its bookie error.

[Doug]

transfers to some other big books would be a good step... it wouldn't get Jeem paid but would work for a lot of customers. just letting the money sit in the account for however many days is a bad practice.... at least deduct it promptly from the account.

[Extra Innings]

[yisman]

SBR JOHN IS PAID TO PROTECT THE PLAYERS YET HE STOLE FROM ME.

Please explain how he stole from you.

A SPORTSBOOM BREAKS THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES AND STEALL 660 DOLLARS

[jjgold]

I just interviewed some guy

[Lenny of Cascade]

Beantownjim, you are a big scammer and that's why you'll never see this 660$.you tried to cheat and you got caught.