SDSU / Navy under 60

**ronjon619** · 12-23-10, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Pride>UFC

the weather was the same when we played Utah here in SD...the over under was 57...final score 38-34...it went over by the middle of the 3rd quarter!

your exactly right, it was a sloppy track that night.

**juanego** · 12-23-10, 02:42 PM

Teased
+3 SDSU
Under 63 1/2

yeah???

**nobs** · 12-23-10, 02:49 PM

good luck, hope it hits

**Pride>UFC** · 12-23-10, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by juanego

Teased +3 SDSU Under 63 1/2 yeah???

i think sdsu wins too but why would you tease SDSU to get them at +3?

**juanego** · 12-23-10, 03:10 PM

to push the total line up...
If i buy points points win amount drops to -150...but by teasing it with the spread AND the total I get -110

**BiffTFinancial** · 12-23-10, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by PSABB

I have to agree with Vitalogist, the under is the correct play and the field conditions will play a huge part. This game has a lot of eerie similarities to the 2010 Capital One Bowl between Penn State and LSU. Penn State came into that game averaging 30 pts on the year, LSU 26. The line, instead of being in the low 50's, closed at 44 with PSU a -2.5 favorite. The field conditions (which were not as bad as what Qualcomm has had to weather this week, pun intended) completely threw off the speed advantage of the LSU Tigers and limited both teams offensively. The final turned out to be a 19-17 PSU win. I think tonight is going to play out in a similar fashion. I see both teams having a few uneventful first few possessions, and then minimal scoring in the first half. Probably a 10-6 or 13-7 game at the half. Scoring will be slightly up in the 2nd half, but not by much. Final will be 24-21 or 27-24, which means that the spread is pretty sharp. The line has already dropped to 57.5 in the last few hours. I think those that are going to play the under should grab it now, because I can't see it doing anything but getting down to 56 by gametime.

respectfully disagree. Penn State and LSU had far, far better athletes on defense in that game than Navy and SDSU will have tonight (a fact underscored by the total of 44 rather than the opener of 60' here). teams like Navy and SDSU put most of their best athletes on offense, while Penn State and LSU recruiting gives them plenty of athletes for all positions. LSU was probably the best defense that Penn State had faced all year. one of the reasons that i can't back Navy is that they do not have the DBs to hang with SDSU's passing attack - that statement would in no way apply to either team in PSU-LSU.

BOL to you tonight, i just think you're comparing apples to oranges in this instance. total's been sitting at 57' for some time now, and i think that it dropped 3 points because the public's pounding the under due to the weather. i plan to wait until closer to gametime, but if it ticks back to 58 at Pinny or Greek, i'm probably playing the over.

**Pride>UFC** · 12-23-10, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by juanego

to push the total line up... If i buy points points win amount drops to -150...but by teasing it with the spread AND the total I get -110

seems pointless to me...I'd just take SDSU -3 and not worry about the total as +3 and -3 aren't all that different...

**Pride>UFC** · 12-23-10, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by BiffTFinancial

respectfully disagree. Penn State and LSU had far, far better athletes on defense in that game than Navy and SDSU will have tonight (a fact underscored by the total of 44 rather than the opener of 60' here). teams like Navy and SDSU put most of their best athletes on offense, while Penn State and LSU recruiting gives them plenty of athletes for all positions. LSU was probably the best defense that Penn State had faced all year. one of the reasons that i can't back Navy is that they do not have the DBs to hang with SDSU's passing attack - that statement would in no way apply to either team in PSU-LSU. BOL to you tonight, i just think you're comparing apples to oranges in this instance. total's been sitting at 57' for some time now, and i think that it dropped 3 points because the public's pounding the under due to the weather. i plan to wait until closer to gametime, but if it ticks back to 58 at Pinny or Greek, i'm probably playing the over.

why do u have a 15 year old girl in your avatar? pedophile...

**PSABB** · 12-23-10, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by BiffTFinancial

respectfully disagree. Penn State and LSU had far, far better athletes on defense in that game than Navy and SDSU will have tonight (a fact underscored by the total of 44 rather than the opener of 60' here). teams like Navy and SDSU put most of their best athletes on offense, while Penn State and LSU recruiting gives them plenty of athletes for all positions. LSU was probably the best defense that Penn State had faced all year. one of the reasons that i can't back Navy is that they do not have the DBs to hang with SDSU's passing attack - that statement would in no way apply to either team in PSU-LSU. BOL to you tonight, i just think you're comparing apples to oranges in this instance. total's been sitting at 57' for some time now, and i think that it dropped 3 points because the public's pounding the under due to the weather. i plan to wait until closer to gametime, but if it ticks back to 58 at Pinny or Greek, i'm probably playing the over.

I'll respectfully disagree back. LOL I will make no bones of contention regarding the quality of athletes in the programs, you are correct there. My point was that the field conditions for that game (which were far better than the one tonight, by all accounts I have heard) were a significant factor in keeping both teams to about 65% of their respective season scoring averages. Yes, the defenses were better...but if we're comparing apples to apples, then it stands to ration that the offenses most likely had "better" athletes as well. I just believe that if you look at this matchup, Navy is going to run the ball. Their triple option offense (which SD has seen via Air Force this year) is going to eat clock, or force them to punt. SD has been a scoring machine, and while I certainly agree that wet/slippery conditions favor an offensive player who knows where he's going to make his move vs. a defensive player that has to react...if the field is wet or muddy that means dropped passes. Fumbles. Stalled drives. These teams will score, but not like they have all season. BOL on your pick.

**BiffTFinancial** · 12-23-10, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Pride>UFC

why do u have a 15 year old girl in your avatar? pedophile...

if she were 15, she wouldn't be locked in an italian prison for a crime she didn't commit, goddamnit. heh heh.

**Masu485** · 12-23-10, 07:22 PM

i'm on the Over also. hopefully this is an easy non-sweat win. field is said to be dry and 'perfect playing conditions'.

**manicart** · 12-23-10, 07:24 PM

Buddy the field is dry
I just watched an analysis on espn not too longago but lol ok GL

**BiffTFinancial** · 12-23-10, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by PSABB

I'll respectfully disagree back. LOL I will make no bones of contention regarding the quality of athletes in the programs, you are correct there. My point was that the field conditions for that game (which were far better than the one tonight, by all accounts I have heard) were a significant factor in keeping both teams to about 65% of their respective season scoring averages. Yes, the defenses were better...but if we're comparing apples to apples, then it stands to ration that the offenses most likely had "better" athletes as well. I just believe that if you look at this matchup, Navy is going to run the ball. Their triple option offense (which SD has seen via Air Force this year) is going to eat clock, or force them to punt. SD has been a scoring machine, and while I certainly agree that wet/slippery conditions favor an offensive player who knows where he's going to make his move vs. a defensive player that has to react...if the field is wet or muddy that means dropped passes. Fumbles. Stalled drives. These teams will score, but not like they have all season. BOL on your pick.

hey, man, appreciate your thoughts. based upon what they're showing right now, the field is in nearly tip-top shape. i guess that's what an NFL stadium crew can do (that was a big assumption to my analysis - that with time to prepare, they'd be able to get it ready). that's why i waited for it to tick back up, and when the Greek line jumped from 57' to 58', i took that as a really good sign. while you're correct that PSU/LSU vs Navy/SDSU is overall better athletically, my point is that mid-level or lesser teams put most of their best athletes on offense, while in power conferences, the defenses as a whole are much more athletic. my main thing is i initially capped it over based upon match-ups, i can't switch to under short of a monsoon, i'd just no-play it. anyway, BOL to you too, hope i read this one right, but i've been wrong plenty too. i lost on Penn State -2' in the game you mentioned, and that was for 4* rather than the 3* i have on the over tonight....

**louisvillekid** · 12-23-10, 07:40 PM

over baby

**vitalogist** · 12-23-10, 08:50 PM

It's going about how I expected it to so far. Still confident.

**Masu485** · 12-23-10, 09:34 PM

Over is looking good so far. 5 TDs in 1st half. 3 TDs and an FG more to hit.

**ronjon619** · 12-23-10, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by vitalogist

It's going about how I expected it to so far. Still confident.

35 first half points and still confident?

**vitalogist** · 12-23-10, 09:49 PM

Haha the last two minutes sucked. Under 30 2h for .25 units.

**BiffTFinancial** · 12-23-10, 10:04 PM

well, you were correct that footing would be an issue.

**ebbearsfb1** · 12-23-10, 10:06 PM

Won't go over I'm confident has alll the trimmings of an underwear.

**ebbearsfb1** · 12-23-10, 10:09 PM

Doubt ne points. Will be scored in the 3rd

**Masu485** · 12-23-10, 10:16 PM

just like that the Over had no chance. i fukking hate this. lose every day...every day lose i fukking hate this

**ebbearsfb1** · 12-23-10, 10:18 PM

What ajoke ... 35 first half 0 in the 2nd half...

**Masu485** · 12-23-10, 10:18 PM

ugh... need at least 1 TD before this Q ends.... please

**Masu485** · 12-23-10, 10:23 PM

now we need 3 fukking TDs and an FG in the 4th. fukk this bullshit every single day. i can't fukking take this anymore

**vitalogist** · 12-23-10, 10:23 PM

Good quarter!

**fishmonger** · 12-23-10, 10:37 PM

Let's run some clock fellas!!

**maxcraft** · 12-23-10, 10:56 PM

Love me some INT.. 4 mins to go guys for the Under..

**ronjon619** · 12-23-10, 10:57 PM

State and under gets the $. Excellent thread

**ebbearsfb1** · 12-23-10, 11:05 PM

These bowl games r awful

**vitalogist** · 12-23-10, 11:09 PM

$$$$$$

**beerman2619** · 12-24-10, 12:03 AM

yes i had the over in this game i lose again

**vitalogist** · 12-24-10, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Under

This better win

I want a Poster of the Month Nomination.

**Jonah** · 12-24-10, 02:28 AM

Good call. If it really went from 50 to 60 Books had much to lose.

**Dex17** · 12-24-10, 02:04 PM

I took the adjusted total for under 49x... I didn't want to even follow the score after the first half! Didn't realize I hit until I checked my account this AM.