HUGE fight tonight Pacquia vs Marquez

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  • raiders72002
    SBR MVP
    • 03-06-07
    • 3368

    #1
    HUGE fight tonight Pacquia vs Marquez
    Round 1 - Marquez gets knocked down 3 times but came back to get a draw.

  • raiders72002
    SBR MVP
    • 03-06-07
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    #2
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    • INVEGA MAN
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-30-08
      • 6802

      #3
      I am taking Pacquia
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      • dannyt76
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 06-29-07
        • 779

        #4
        All over Pacquia.
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        • raiders72002
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          • 03-06-07
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          #5
          Dec. or KO?
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          • hoopster42
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            • 02-12-08
            • 6099

            #6
            i like pac-man by a ko, but i am getting destroyed in cbb so fade everything i say
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            • bigboydan
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              • 08-10-05
              • 55420

              #7
              I'll be watching this fight for sure tonight.
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              • raiders72002
                SBR MVP
                • 03-06-07
                • 3368

                #8
                Marquez wins this one. Book it.
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                • hoopster42
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                  • 02-12-08
                  • 6099

                  #9
                  Originally posted by raiders72002
                  Marquez wins this one. Book it.
                  i just love definitive posts that sound like they are stating facts

                  anyhow, pac-man much younger, and ko power with both hands, dropped jmm three times in the first fight, so how can you say something so definitively? you should bet a lot on jmm because he is a 2 to 1 dog
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                  • raiders72002
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-06-07
                    • 3368

                    #10
                    Marquez has 3 losses. He lost his first fight in 1993 by DQ because of a head butt. He lost in 1999 to Freddie Norwood who was 35-0-1.

                    He lost to Chris John in 2006 but got jobbed by the judges because the fight was in Asia and he also had two points deducted for low blows.

                    If not for round 1 when the scores were 10-6, 10-6, 10-7 Marquez wins the first fight against Pac-Man.

                    Sure Marquez is older and Pacquia could dominate but there's no way I'm laying the wood. The price says take Marquez.

                    Stats from 1st fight. Marquez landed more blows.

                    CompuBox Punchstats Total Punches Marquez Pacquiao
                    Landed 158 148
                    Thrown 547 639
                    Pct. 29% 23%
                    Power Punches Marquez Pacquiao
                    Landed 122 100
                    Thrown 339 231

                    Pct. 36% 43%
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                    • hoopster42
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                      • 02-12-08
                      • 6099

                      #11
                      the price says take marquez because he's the dog, but this is not a point spread so losing close doesnt matter, if the fight was even odds there is no way a sane person can take jmm, he might win, but pac-man is younger, stronger, ko power from both hands and has a great chin, i BELIEVE, yes i THINK, its MY OPINION, that pac-man will win, and yes, i HATE definitive statements
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                      • raiders72002
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-06-07
                        • 3368

                        #12
                        Well you better look at their KO percentages again, almost identical. And take a look at how many more power punches that Marquez threw then Pacquia.

                        Like I said it may be an easy victory for Pacquia but the play is Marquez.

                        And I hate stupid people that shoot their mouths off.
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                        • raiders72002
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                          • 03-06-07
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                          #13
                          Also, if you watched the first fight Marquez DOMINATED the middle rounds and hurt Pac-Man good.
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                          • raiders72002
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                            • 03-06-07
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                            #14
                            Public money all over Pac-Man.
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                            • hoopster42
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                              • 02-12-08
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                              #15
                              the value clearly points to taking marquez as the live dog, but i believe the boxing sense pts to taking the younger, stronger, faster, fighter who knocked the other guy down 3 times in one round in the first meeting, credit to jmm for getting back up and showing heart, but 4 yrs later, age doesnt bode well for him, if the fight was even on the betting line, you could not in good faith take jmm, you would have to take pac-man
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                              • INVEGA MAN
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-30-08
                                • 6802

                                #16
                                Who won the fight
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                                • jdwars
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 06-18-07
                                  • 136

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by INVEGA MAN
                                  Who won the fight
                                  Pacquia
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                                  • raiders72002
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-06-07
                                    • 3368

                                    #18
                                    Marquez got screwed. Split decision. PacMan scored a knock down that was the difference on the score cards. I still think Marquez won. Great fight.
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                                    • Thor4140
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-09-08
                                      • 22296

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by raiders72002
                                      Marquez got screwed. Split decision. PacMan scored a knock down that was the difference on the score cards. I still think Marquez won. Great fight.
                                      I had Marquez winning by a point. Bunch of heavy hitters i talk with on another site in the Boxing thread all had what i had.
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                                      • SBR Lou
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-02-07
                                        • 37863

                                        #20
                                        I forgot about this, I was going to take the dog too.
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                                        • rjt721
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-06-07
                                          • 7929

                                          #21
                                          JMM won the fight... again. He backed up Pac more than most thought possible, and had an answer every time Manny landed his left. Close fight, but just as the first encounter, Marquez did enough to get the decision.

                                          Lederman's scorecards are getting more laughable by the day. I didn't think he could top scoring the fight for Paul Williams over Quintana last month, but giving Pac the last round is awfully close. Clearly a Marquez round... one of the more one-sided rounds of the fight.
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                                          • raiders72002
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-06-07
                                            • 3368

                                            #22
                                            I had Marquez winning by a point. Bunch of heavy hitters i talk with on another site in the Boxing thread all had what i had.
                                            agree

                                            JMM won the fight... again. He backed up Pac more than most thought possible, and had an answer every time Manny landed his left. Close fight, but just as the first encounter, Marquez did enough to get the decision.

                                            Lederman's scorecards are getting more laughable by the day. I didn't think he could top scoring the fight for Paul Williams over Quintana last month, but giving Pac the last round is awfully close. Clearly a Marquez round... one of the more one-sided rounds of the fight.
                                            sharp post - Lederman's cards are a joke.
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                                            • moses millsap
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-25-05
                                              • 8289

                                              #23
                                              Had it 8-4 rounds for Marquez. Another joke decision in boxing. Manny had 30-40 second spurts in random rounds and gets the decision off of the belt holder. ****ing joke. No surprise he says he doesn't want a 3rd match with Marquez.

                                              Marquez should've low blowed him after his intentional headbutt.
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                                              • hoopster42
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                                                • 02-12-08
                                                • 6099

                                                #24
                                                pac-man has more marketability so he gets the decision, i figured this in my pick of pac-man winning the fight, we should all know better by now, boxing is most corrupt sport
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