Why do you think the line on the Minn/Bears game has dropped from Bears -9 to -6/6.5

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  • EmpireMaker
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    • 06-18-09
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    #1
    Why do you think the line on the Minn/Bears game has dropped from Bears -9 to -6/6.5
    Why do you think the line on the Vikings/Bears game has dropped from Bears -9 to -6/6.5 ? What are the reasons (game related) it has moved ?
  • rfr3sh
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    • 11-07-09
    • 10229

    #2
    Public Speculation or someone saying favre is playing I would say
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    • THE PROFIT
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      • 11-27-09
      • 17701

      #3
      Because Favre might play
      Because more than a TD is too much to give up in the NFL
      Because more than a TD is stupid to give up in a division game
      Because more than a TD is insane to give up in the NFL in a division game in unfamiliar field conditions for both teams when the weather is fukin horrible
      Because everyone just remembered that it doesnt matter who the QB is for Minny, Jay Cutler will most definitely be starting for da Bears
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      • EaglesPhan36
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        • 12-06-06
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        #4
        Santa went big on Minnesota +9.
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        • 30K Millionaire
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          #5
          Low scoring game based on low total, harsh conditions, may be hard to cover by over a TD
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          • Slim
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            • 11-13-08
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            #6
            People watched last night how a +14 point dog almost won.
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            • xkgb
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              • 11-29-10
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              #7
              good question, prolly cuz farve is almost ready to go, and maybe the bears are not that good either
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              • EmpireMaker
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                • 06-18-09
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                #8
                Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                Because Favre might play
                Because more than a TD is too much to give up in the NFL
                Because more than a TD is stupid to give up in a division game
                Because more than a TD is insane to give up in the NFL in a division game in unfamiliar field conditions for both teams when the weather is fukin horrible
                Because everyone just remembered that it doesnt matter who the QB is for Minny, Jay Cutler will most definitely be starting for da Bears
                Do you think it should be lower still like -3 ?
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                • pavyracer
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                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82630

                  #9
                  because the line was off at -9 and the market adjusted itself to the correct line it should have been at opening
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                  • THE PROFIT
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                    • 11-27-09
                    • 17701

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                    Do you think it should be lower still like -3 ?
                    I think -3 would still get too much public money on Bears, so I think 7 is probably good, maybe 6.5

                    I think Minnesota wins, but that has nothing to do with what a good line is
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                    • str
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                      • 01-12-09
                      • 11663

                      #11
                      Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                      I think -3 would still get too much public money on Bears, so I think 7 is probably good, maybe 6.5

                      I think Minnesota wins, but that has nothing to do with what a good line is
                      Real.Comfortable.Money line.
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                      • yisman
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                        • 09-01-08
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                        #12
                        I think it was the Favre news.
                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                        [/quote]

                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                        • d2bets
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                          #13
                          It was never truly 9. Some books had juiced 9 to avoid teasers. It was more like 7.5/8. Line moved down today on the Favre news. That's pretty much it.
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                          • jmathes
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                            • 02-19-09
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                            #14
                            weather will be the biggest factor here...
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                            • EmpireMaker
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                              • 06-18-09
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Slim
                              People watched last night how a +14 point dog almost won.
                              I think this is part of it and the weather, Favre might be part but I don't think he will play and if he does I don't believe he will be effective (and I'm a Favre fan)
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                              • THE PROFIT
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                                • 11-27-09
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by str
                                Real.Comfortable.Money line.
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                                • pc2006mg
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                                  • 11-21-10
                                  • 51

                                  #17
                                  I live in MPLS and it is snowing like crazy! Traffic is at a standstill and visibilty is not good. The field is suspect and this is also a hugely bitter division rival. I think it should be at +7 which is where it stands right now. Vikes might be worth a look...........
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                                  • EmpireMaker
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                                    • 06-18-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                    I think -3 would still get too much public money on Bears, so I think 7 is probably good, maybe 6.5

                                    I think Minnesota wins, but that has nothing to do with what a good line is
                                    What do you think is the Vikings edge here ?
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                                    • Dirty Bay Player
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                                      • 12-05-09
                                      • 705

                                      #19
                                      I never saw the line at +9 on this game on my book (Bookmaker). They had it +7.5 vikes was the best I saw it.

                                      I don't think Favre has anything to do with the line - I think it's strictly the weather. I don't care HOW much better one team is than the other if the field is a skating rink. Which Bears offensive players are so lethal that you can imagine them running away with this game? Hester? Knox? I don't think so; especially if people are slipping and sliding on the field and the ball's squirting out at any given time.
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                                      • Snowball
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                                        • 11-15-09
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                                        #20
                                        this could be Brett's last game ever !

                                        he may be getting a 2-game suspension.

                                        History in the Making tonight.

                                        until Gruden comes out of retirement to coach the Vikings
                                        with Brett 2.0.11.
                                        Last edited by Snowball; 12-20-10, 06:35 PM.
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                                        • THE PROFIT
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                                          • 11-27-09
                                          • 17701

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                                          What do you think is the Vikings edge here ?
                                          minny 4-0 SU & 3-1 ATS w/revenge in this series

                                          Bears are equally good in div road games, but I just dont trust Cutler. In this weather, I'll take the points. Its snowing like damnit & I dont see a lot of offense, id say there'll be as many defense TD's as offensive, but either way no way I'll give up a TD
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                                          • THE HITMAN
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                                            • 06-16-07
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                                            #22
                                            I would guess weather and has been said, it never was -9 or 8.5 although I saw a smattering of 8's
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                                            • k13
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                                              • 07-16-10
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                                              #23
                                              Hopefully it means what its supposed to mean.
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                                              • yisman
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                                                • 09-01-08
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dirty Bay Player
                                                I never saw the line at +9 on this game on my book (Bookmaker). They had it +7.5 vikes was the best I saw it.
                                                the real line was never 9. You could've gotten +9 -130 but that's not a true line.

                                                Pretty much has been 6.5-7.5 the entire time, except some books briefly went to 8.
                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                [/quote]

                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                • rm18
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                                                  • 09-20-05
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                                                  #25
                                                  the lines were juiced to block bears teasers but never really that high
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                                                  • The Seer
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                                                    • 10-29-07
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                                                    #26
                                                    they said favre looked decent in warm ups. It's hard to throw deep in this weather anyway. I bet he starts.
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                                                    • EmpireMaker
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                                                      • 06-18-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by THE HITMAN
                                                      I would guess weather and has been said, it never was -9 or 8.5 although I saw a smattering of 8's

                                                      Pinnacle
                                                      Line History:
                                                      Chicago Bears vs Minnesota Vikings



                                                      POINTSPREADS
                                                      12/18 18:17 -9 +111 / +9 -120
                                                      12/18 19:03 -9 +116 / +9 -126
                                                      12/19 06:37 -9 +114 / +9 -123
                                                      12/19 06:38 -9 +115 / +9 -125
                                                      12/19 10:32 -9½ +118 / +9½ -128
                                                      12/19 14:40 -9 +115 / +9 -124
                                                      12/19 14:40 -9 +115 / +9 -125
                                                      12/20 10:26 -8½ +111 / +8½ -120
                                                      12/20 11:43 -8½ +112 / +8½ -121
                                                      12/20 11:44 -8½ +114 / +8½ -123
                                                      12/20 11:46 -7½ +102 / +7½ -110
                                                      12/20 12:15 -7½ +106 / +7½ -115
                                                      12/20 12:29 -7½ +107 / +7½ -116
                                                      12/20 13:05 -7 -101 / +7 -107
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                                                      • EmpireMaker
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                                                        • 06-18-09
                                                        • 15572

                                                        #28
                                                        5Dimes and BetOnline were at -9 also not sure about others
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                                                        • fury
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                                                          • 02-20-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          I got Vikings +8 at -110.
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                                                          • Cinquefoil
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                                                            • 10-25-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            I got +8 (-110) at Bodog this morning... sometimes their dog lines are useful.
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                                                            • pattymayo
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                                                              • 05-19-09
                                                              • 10221

                                                              #31
                                                              favre will start IMO. he loves beating the Bears
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                                                              • yisman
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                                                                • 09-01-08
                                                                • 75682

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                                                                Pinnacle
                                                                Line History:
                                                                Chicago Bears vs Minnesota Vikings



                                                                POINTSPREADS
                                                                12/18 18:17 -9 +111 / +9 -120
                                                                12/18 19:03 -9 +116 / +9 -126
                                                                12/19 06:37 -9 +114 / +9 -123
                                                                12/19 06:38 -9 +115 / +9 -125
                                                                12/19 10:32 -9½ +118 / +9½ -128
                                                                12/19 14:40 -9 +115 / +9 -124
                                                                12/19 14:40 -9 +115 / +9 -125
                                                                12/20 10:26 -8½ +111 / +8½ -120
                                                                12/20 11:43 -8½ +112 / +8½ -121
                                                                12/20 11:44 -8½ +114 / +8½ -123
                                                                12/20 11:46 -7½ +102 / +7½ -110
                                                                12/20 12:15 -7½ +106 / +7½ -115
                                                                12/20 12:29 -7½ +107 / +7½ -116
                                                                12/20 13:05 -7 -101 / +7 -107
                                                                As you can see, they were never really -9.

                                                                They put +9 on there heavily favored to avoid people being able to tease past the 3.

                                                                Notice how Pinnacle skipped past the 8 entirely.

                                                                If they didn't have to be concerned about teasers, Pinnacle never would've offered higher than 8.
                                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                [/quote]

                                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                • k13
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                                                                  • 07-16-10
                                                                  • 18100

                                                                  #33
                                                                  yikes, down to 6 on pinny.
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                                                                  • JD426
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                                                                    • 12-08-10
                                                                    • 511

                                                                    #34
                                                                    It's one thing if a legitimate backup quarterback like Rex Grossman, Matt Flynn, etc. is playing, but we're talking about Joe Webb! And he's playing against one of the best defenses in the league, in the snow! This guy is a rookie from Alabama Birmingham who was drafted to play WR. Not to mention Minnesota has nothing to play for, while the Bears still need to win to secure a playoff spot. Chicago rolls.
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                                                                    • unusialsusp5
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                                                                      • 04-18-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      because more moola was bet on minn. so it's been adjusted down to even off their books.
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