The talk around cleveland after todays game is "outlook not good"... what do you guys think? Has he earned a shot at another season? I have a feeling Holmgrens already made up his mind... Gruden.
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? rly what is the reasoning behind him being gone already? They were very competitive this seasonComment -
WOW, that would surprise me considering the Browns have been in virtually every game this year, shoulda beat the Jets that one week too.Comment -
Cleveland doesn't want "competitive", we want titles. He lost too many close games and most in the 4th quarter in crunch time. I'd like him to stay because the team is missing a few pieces but I'd take Gruden any day of the week. I really would like to have Cowher.Comment -
Yes, they've been competitive...
Yes, they've been in about every game...
But Mangini wasn't a Holmgren hire...
And to quote the Big Tuna, "you are what your record says you are"...
Mangini is as good as gone...
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He is gone
close games do not mean much in nfl, you need to winComment -
I knew somebody that played under him and he said everybody hated him.
You say the Browns haven't won anything, but who picked them to do anything? They don't have the talent other teams have and they were down to their 3rd string quarterback.
BUTTTT they'd probably be better off promoting Rob Ryan to head coach. Of course with giving somebody a token interview.Comment -
when you have a shitty ass team with no qb being competitve and winning a few big games is not a bad season while rebuildingComment -
I wouldn't be suprised if Cowher didn't end back up in Cleveland.Comment -
You seriously think Cowher would work under Holmgren ? or vi sa versa? no chance. cowher will want GM powers, or more.
As for Mangini, he has done more with less than I think anyone else would have... this team has very little talent right now. Their WR's are easily the worst in the league.. and they have had a QB carousel all year. Mangini should get another year, with some more talent.Comment -
If Mangini has a contract left, I think they keep him.
Who could they get that would be better?
Not sure if they could.
Gruden, Cowher, and Dungy are probably not gonna coach again.
If they did, I don't think they want to go to a perrennial loser.
So then who?
College coach?Comment -
Mangini stays.Comment -
I do not think he is gone
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he should of never got the job.....Comment -
41-9... Conversation will go somthing like this
Mangini: Coach Holmgren I just want you to (interuption)
Holmgren: Eric stop right there... If your interested you can be one of my waterboys next year. I know you have experience in the area with the browns. If not good luck... Your fired.Comment -
no question hes goneComment -
if i were gruden i wouldnt want the browns with all of the better offers he may getComment
