Did L'Villle ML screw anybody else?

LT Profits · 03-13-08, 09:59 PM

And I am not showing any love for Clemson as much as I am showing no respect for the Pac-10. I said above that Clemson is just decent and nothing more. However, I do rate the third best team in the ACC higher than any Pac-10 team besides UCLA.

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 09:59 PM

so bascially tpowell, lville is the best because only the big east counts?>
do you know what a homer is?

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 10:00 PM

stanford and ucla and wash st and MAYBE oregon or univ or arizona and usc, could hang with ANYONE in the big east.
anyone

TPowell · 03-13-08, 10:02 PM

ummm how about losing to Missouri, Texas A&M, Texas Tech? Barely sneaking by Colorado but IT WAS A W and that's all that counts I guess. Seriously your delusional if you think Texas isnt a Jekcyl and Hyde team

TPowell · 03-13-08, 10:03 PM

lol there's at least 8 teams in the Big East that could hang with anybody in the Pac 10 as well

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 10:03 PM

every team can win or lose
happens every day

i am sure lville did it,
i have seen ucla do it twice last week
i saw ut lose to wisconsin at home
i saw nd come back at lville

almost won
lville is overrated

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 10:04 PM

i agree with the last statement number 40 tpowell

these teams are good

Tigers1230 · 03-13-08, 10:06 PM

I agree LT. No reason why Pac-10 should be talked about this much this year. I think UCLA might get to the elite 8 but thats it. I agree Big East and ACC are the most dominant conferences thus far. I also agree that Georgetown and Louisville are not as good as people make them out to be.

Oh and don't feel bad, UMASS just cost be a bill by blowing a 17 pt halftime lead and losing by 4.

LT Profits · 03-13-08, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

stanford and ucla and wash st and MAYBE oregon or univ or arizona and usc, could hang with ANYONE in the big east.
anyone

Totally false, except for UCLA. You are severly underestimating the best conference in the country and overestimatinbg the most overrated conference. I literally CRINGE when I hear so many broadcasters refer to the Pac-10 as the best conference in the country. They are the fourth best confernce at best, and I would even take high mid-majors like Drake and Butler over the rest of the Pac-10 besides UCLA.

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 10:06 PM

do you watch a lot of pac10 lt? just asking.

TPowell · 03-13-08, 10:06 PM

dude I'm not trying to argue with anybody because I'm sure your as pissed at the Cards as I am, but losing to Pitt at the Garden isn't gonna kill us. We SUCK at the Garden and Pitt is always tough in the Big East conference tourny. Are you serious about ND? Harangody hit a few lucky shots....oh well. We outplayed them ALL GAME.

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 10:09 PM

i agree with you there tpowell
its not their fault i bet them
i aint rippin them
we will see in the next month where they are.
agree?

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 10:10 PM

tpowell, i agree lville is better than nd
but it was a weak last 10 minutesin lville

TPowell · 03-13-08, 10:11 PM

yeah, we will. I blame Pitino before anybody. Seriously how stupid do you have to be to keep Padgett in there in Overtime when Caracter was playing his ass off and doing great inside.

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 10:11 PM

yep
bad game for padgett

TPowell · 03-13-08, 10:12 PM

I'm not saying UL is better but that game was a blowout until Harangody started shooting like.... idk it was just crazy

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 10:13 PM

it happens

LT Profits · 03-13-08, 10:13 PM

I am a numbers guy ryan, and the Pac-10 teams are not highly ranked in my power ratings. And if you check my record, I think I have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing.

Anyhow, it is kind of senseless to keep arguing this with the touney a week away. We will see then how each conference does.

TPowell · 03-13-08, 10:13 PM

One more thing, Padgett CAN'T play with a physical big man on him. What did he do against UConn? He's not athletic and has trouble being physical, but luckily the Big East is a great prep because of how physical it is

ryanXL977 · 03-13-08, 10:15 PM

allright lt
i am not saying i am right and you are wrong
just saying i disagree

LT Profits · 03-13-08, 10:17 PM

Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. Good Luck in the tourney!

MJFtheGenius · 03-13-08, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

UCLA= already mentioned there 2 game luck streak
Texas= Jackyl and Hyde
UNC= hasnt really beaten anybody top tier
Memphis= weak conference makes it hard for them to get ready to play their best basketball
Tennessee= SEC sucks

You are really off base buddy. All of those teams have top notch RPI's

BigOrangeTitans · 03-13-08, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by MJFtheGenius

I think what Big orange and I are trying to say LT is no Big East team would be considered a favorite against the true elite teams unc,duke,tex,kansas,ucla,memphis and tennessee

Spot on MJF
You give me the top tier big east against any of those teams has a fave and I would pound that. Pac 10 is a one horse league who would get beat by anyone who comes out as a one or two seed(minus stanford). Pac 10 is grossly overrated.

TPowell · 03-13-08, 10:20 PM

RPI? Do you really think that shit means anything?

LT Profits · 03-13-08, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by BigOrangeTitans

Pac 10 is grossly overrated.

So I am not the only one that will incur imgv's wrath?

And is I said above, the top Big East teams would probably be underdogs to the upper echelon teams, so I look at it from the opposite perspective as you do. I would take the points with the Big East teams when they are dogs later on in the tourney.

MJFtheGenius · 03-13-08, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

RPI? Do you really think that shit means anything?

ahh yes

MJFtheGenius · 03-13-08, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

So I am not the only one that will incur imgv's wrath?

And is I said above, the top Big East teams would probably be underdogs to the upper echelon teams, so I look at it from the opposite perspective as you do. I would take the points with the Big East teams when they are dogs later on in the tourney.

Not saying taking the points is a bad idea in those games depending on the game and situation. Just saying I don't consider anyone in the Big East elite. Anyone can beat anyone look at George Mason but I am just saying odds are not on the side of any of the Big east teams.

TPowell · 03-13-08, 10:28 PM

So the Big East isnt one of the best 3 conferences in basketball?

MJFtheGenius · 03-13-08, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

So the Big East isnt one of the best 3 conferences in basketball?

I think they are. They have alot of good teams just not any elite.

LT Profits · 03-13-08, 10:30 PM

I have yet to come across a perfect system, but I do think that Pomeroys are a lot better than RPI. Now if only I could convince Ken that the Pac-10 is not the second best conference.

MJFtheGenius · 03-13-08, 10:30 PM

Big East gets alot of hype due to the fact they are always on ESPN.

TPowell · 03-13-08, 10:31 PM

lol and DUke and UNC dont???

BigOrangeTitans · 03-13-08, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

So I am not the only one that will incur imgv's wrath?

And is I said above, the top Big East teams would probably be underdogs to the upper echelon teams, so I look at it from the opposite perspective as you do. I would take the points with the Big East teams when they are dogs later on in the tourney.

Nope, Pac ten looked like the strong conference in the preseason polls after that I dont know so much.

Cal, Oregon, UW, all missing the dance. They were supposed to go no doubt.

MJFtheGenius · 03-13-08, 10:32 PM

I'd probably rank the big east 2nd

MJFtheGenius · 03-13-08, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

lol and DUke and UNC dont???

They do, UNC is obviously an elite team. You can make a case Duke is not but I still think they are.