I have no idea what he bets on since he never posts the tickets but if the bet is accepted by SBR it means they allow him to bet through loopholes. So either close the loopholes or only allow him to bet straight bets. If he wants to buy 3 points on teasers charge him high juice per 0.5 point so the teaser is -250 instead of -170. SBR has control of their own book and if they don't mind him beating them he will keep doing it.
If there is a loophole the book will adjust. But what I said earlier is reality. When you have 4000 players it is a mathematical probability that there will be one big winner. Reminds me of a great racetrack story i heard first hand; A guy is nailing every race and his buddies are trailing him and man are they having a blast. Eventually they threw their programs away and just waited in silence while this guy used a felt pen to make notes by every horse. Then with a minute until post he would announce his win, place and show selections. The group nailed 9 of 12 races including the last 4 at nearly all-in levels and were promptly carded into the racing office and interrogated(hmm sound familiar?). Anyway, they were let go and as they were leaving the main guy tossed his program and away they went smiling. Would be a great story if it ended right there except the person who told the story actually grabbed the program to try and dissect how the selections were made. As it turns out the program was from the matinee, the mid day races not the night races. The brilliant handicapping with all the +Ev angles were actually total luck. He was not even using the right program.
It happens.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82668
#72
John If you don't mind him beating the book with his strategy I have no problem with it. This is your book you can operate it as you please. But what I don't want to see is passing the cost of winning his bets into the other posters by some ridiculous price increases at the Store.
I always like it when there is one big winner.
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SBR_John
SBR Posting Legend
07-12-05
16471
#73
Originally posted by pavyracer
John If you don't mind him beating the book with his strategy I have no problem with it. This is your book you can operate it as you please. But what I don't want to see is passing the cost of winning his bets into the other posters by some ridiculous price increasing at the Store.
I always like it when there is one big winner.
..and what I'm trying to explain is there will always be a trixtrix with this many players, with the established betting limits SBR offers. When trixtrix bag of tricks is empty it will be someone else. SBR's win percentage is pretty close to the theoretical hold meaning that from all the wagers placed, the book wins about 4% more than it loses.
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trixtrix
Restricted User
04-13-06
1897
#74
sbr john is saying everything is fine and gosh be darn it a large winner from time to time is both expected and appreciated
pavy is saying he's losing player and therefore anyone who wins must be cheating
gee let me guess who's more on target here
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BatemanPatrickl
SBR Posting Legend
06-21-07
18772
#75
Give me 500 points and I will sign.
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big0mar
SBR MVP
01-09-09
3374
#76
Originally posted by trixtrix
sbr john is saying everything is fine and gosh be darn it a large winner from time to time is both expected and appreciated pavy is saying he's losing player and therefore anyone who wins must be cheating gee let me guess who's more on target here
Obviously everything isn't fine, if you've created a thread asking John to change the rules.
[B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.
Obviously everything isn't fine, if you've created a thread asking John to change the rules.
i asked to john to up my personal limits, just like a whale would ask bellagio to up their limits when betting a game on their alma mater.
it does not anything was wrong, just like there was nothing wrong w/ the current setup at bellagio just b/c a whale wants to bet more money
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trixtrix
Restricted User
04-13-06
1897
#81
pavy is simply being a jealous tard, evyerone sees through his and crustyme's facade. was pretty funny when he tries to incite sbr john to take some action against me and got shot down though
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sideloaded
SBR Hall of Famer
08-21-10
7561
#82
trixtrix why use all your tricks at a free sportsbook. Im sure every sharp saw the sbr book as a easy target but layed off taking it to the cleaners because they knew it was a novelity shop for ultra squares to win some free plays and get back in the game. why are you making sbr run their shop for pros and making it even harder for -ev players to win some free plays?
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trixtrix
Restricted User
04-13-06
1897
#83
Originally posted by sideloaded
trixtrix why use all your tricks at a free sportsbook. Im sure every sharp saw the sbr book as a easy target but layed off taking it to the cleaners because they knew it was a novelity shop for ultra squares to win some free plays and get back in the game. why are you making sbr run their shop for pros and making it even harder for -ev players to win some free plays?
Lol how do u know I don't do that at other books. More importantly why do u keep on thinking me winning is a bad thing for other players when john specifically denied such.
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big0mar
SBR MVP
01-09-09
3374
#84
Originally posted by trixtrix
Lol how do u know I don't do that at other books. More importantly why do u keep on thinking me winning is a bad thing for other players when john specifically denied such.
To be fair, I don't think John would ever indicate anything was wrong, even if there was something wrong.
I'm not suggesting there is, but you're smart enough to realize that someone winning 500k points would ultimately not be a good thing for the SBR point system.
[B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.
^ It sure as hell won't be risk-free if he gets the freeplays at Bet Phoenix.
What did you mean by this comment? Is BetPhoenix not a smart place to buy a freeplay?
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FrozenMAN
SBR MVP
01-23-09
4334
#86
now only if they had those super bowl trips again lol
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Patrick McIrish
SBR MVP
09-15-05
2864
#87
It's kind of sad Trix is almost forced to defend himself out here for winning. And it's not John, it's mostly the other players that seem to be upset. Best revenge in life is living well. If what Trix is doing is pissing you off learn how to join him in the winner's circle. 'Nuff said.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82668
#88
Originally posted by trixtrix
sbr john is saying everything is fine and gosh be darn it a large winner from time to time is both expected and appreciated
pavy is saying he's losing player and therefore anyone who wins must be cheating
gee let me guess who's more on target here
When you hit an 11 team parlay come and talk to me.
Ticket#:57642
PARLAY [309] CHICAGO -3-125 [316] MINNESOTA -350 [319] SAN FRANCISCO -345 [321] ATLANTA -1½-110 [330] SAN DIEGO -3-105 PUSH [701] TOTAL o205-110 (INDIANA vrs NEW YORK) [724] TEXAS TECH -2-110 [725] FLORIDA PK-110 [728] MICHIGAN -1-110 [732] WAKE FOREST -3½-110 [735] INDIANA STATE -1-110
6 / 3226
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82668
#89
Originally posted by big0mar
To be fair, I don't think John would ever indicate anything was wrong, even if there was something wrong.
I'm not suggesting there is, but you're smart enough to realize that someone winning 500k points would ultimately not be a good thing for the SBR point system.
I'm pretty sure when he wins and asks to cash 500,000 points at once they would be major changes in the SBR point sustem.
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yisman
SBR Aristocracy
09-01-08
75682
#90
Originally posted by MadTiger
He has a law background. Have you ever known a lawyer to not have much to say?
depends whether they're being paid for their time or not.
Originally posted by pavyracer
I believe Justin. He said you are exploiting mispricings and weaknesses. I will believe an SBR mod and author of a top selling book at SBR Store before I believe you.
oh c'mon. It's the only book at the SBR store. I bought it with points, but "top selling book at SBR store" isn't something to brag about.
[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
[/quote]
[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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trixtrix
Restricted User
04-13-06
1897
#91
Originally posted by pavyracer
I'm pretty sure when he wins and asks to cash 500,000 points at once they would be major changes in the SBR point sustem.
you're pretty "sure", b/c you're (who was never part of the conversation or the management team, and somehow is desperate to add yourself to it) more certain of pending regulations changes over the owner of the book?
hitting a 12 team parlay is impressive? lol more impressive than my current mid-5 figure balance at bookmaker and phoenix i guess.. the funny part of this is i could care less regarding your parlay/winnings, while you show an obessessive jealousy w/ my winnings.. get out much?
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yisman
SBR Aristocracy
09-01-08
75682
#92
Originally posted by saintjames
i want the minimum 1 sbr point on wagering back at the sbr sportsbook & why did the minimum go up from 1 sbr point to 5 sbr points??? thats evil to have a high minimum in a sportsbook thats suppose to be " recreational " and on top of that , they have low maximum wagering...its suppose to be the other way around so lets get with the program here sbr or else i will sue for emotional damages with jjgold and fishhead as my " dream team " lawyers
OK, you get 12 points free daily. How is 5 a high minimum?
I would agree regarding the maximum. I wish the limits were raised.
Originally posted by pavyracer
I wish you good luck in winning. I told you before that my goal is to see you win 1,000,000 million points and take them to the cleaners.
No one is ever going to win "1,000,000 million points."
[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
[/quote]
[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82668
#93
Originally posted by trixtrix
you're pretty "sure", b/c you're (who was never part of the conversation or the management team, and somehow is desperate to add yourself to it) more certain of pending regulations changes over the owner of the book?
hitting a 12 team parlay is impressive? lol more impressive than my current mid-5 figure balance at bookmaker and phoenix i guess.. the funny part of this is i could care less regarding your parlay/winnings, while you show an obessessive jealousy w/ my winnings.. get out much?
I thought you said I lose all the times at the book. Now go eat crow!
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trixtrix
Restricted User
04-13-06
1897
#94
Originally posted by big0mar
To be fair, I don't think John would ever indicate anything was wrong, even if there was something wrong.
I'm not suggesting there is, but you're smart enough to realize that someone winning 500k points would ultimately not be a good thing for the SBR point system.
why? why would sbr book offer a prize for 111k if they don't ever plan on having someone reach it and claim it?
some of you either like to argue or have no clue how a casino/book should be run.
as long as a book maintains its hold, they don't care if the winnings are divided over many people or only a select few. in fact, the book would prefer a big winner over many small winners b/c it's good advertising, makes everyone think they have a shot.
why do you think all the online casions have a winners list if they are so concerned about people winning? why do you think sbr book/casino have a daily winner list?
a book don't care about winners as long as they maintain their hold and winner simply wins b/c of luck.
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trixtrix
Restricted User
04-13-06
1897
#95
Originally posted by pavyracer
I thought you said I lose all the times at the book. Now go eat crow!
i don't care about you, your winnings, you losses etc..
do you even comprehend this? not everyone is obsessive over someone's pts, why would i even care to eat crow? who are you to me? i never heard of you until you started personally attacking me.
you care about how much i win, what i ate, the frequency/colour of my excrement.. not the other way around
you win, wow dude congrats. go enjoy your winnings and stop posting about my personal business
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sideloaded
SBR Hall of Famer
08-21-10
7561
#96
trixtrix you're missing the point. Why don't you quit feasting like a pig and quit hitting the sportsbook weaknesses so hard so justin7 doesn't fix all the leaks and leave some scraps for other players to exploit.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82668
#97
Originally posted by trixtrix
i don't care about you, your winnings, you losses etc..
do you even comprehend this? not everyone is obsessive over someone's pts, why would i even care to eat crow? who are you to me? i never heard of you until you started personally attacking me.
you care about how much i win, what i ate, the frequency/colour of my excrement.. not the other way around
you win, wow dude congrats. go enjoy your winnings and stop posting about my personal business
Dude no one is attacking you. Quit chasing invisible ghosts!
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trixtrix
Restricted User
04-13-06
1897
#98
Originally posted by sideloaded
trixtrix you're missing the point. Why don't you quit feasting like a pig and quit hitting the sportsbook weaknesses so hard so justin7 doesn't fix all the leaks and leave some scraps for other players to exploit.
i'm not missing any pt, if you win at a regular book, is it my business to tell you to stop winning so much so i can have some of your leftovers?
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trixtrix
Restricted User
04-13-06
1897
#99
Originally posted by pavyracer
Dude no one is attacking you. Quit chasing invisible ghosts!
okay great, stop posting in my threads and i'll make sure i'll give you the same courtesy. k, bye
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yisman
SBR Aristocracy
09-01-08
75682
#100
Originally posted by keyboarding
Beggars can't be choosers, man.
What did you mean by this comment? Is BetPhoenix not a smart place to buy a freeplay?
Bet Phoenix is not a trustworthy book, as I've posted in the past.
[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
[/quote]
[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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sideloaded
SBR Hall of Famer
08-21-10
7561
#101
Originally posted by trixtrix
i'm not missing any pt, if you win at a regular book, is it my business to tell you to stop winning so much so i can have some of your leftovers?
Well that actually does happen all the time with syndicates. But anyways this book is for broke people to make something out of nothing and get some free plays. The only reason I could come up with as to why you would attack it so hard is for humble bragging purposes.
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trixtrix
Restricted User
04-13-06
1897
#102
Originally posted by sideloaded
Well that actually does happen all the time with syndicates. But anyways this book is for broke people to make something out of nothing and get some free plays. The only reason I could come up with as to why you would attack it so hard is for humble bragging purposes.
have you ever seen me making a thread bragging that i won 100k pts? in all the daily threads i beg every day for them to take my name off the list.
the only reason i can come up w/ why people would care how many pts i won is simple jealousy.
mind your own business and i'll mind mine, you can make all the presumptions privately that you want
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big0mar
SBR MVP
01-09-09
3374
#103
Originally posted by trixtrix
okay great, stop posting in my threads and i'll make sure i'll give you the same courtesy. k, bye
Stop making threads complaining about SBR policy?
[B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.
and to be clear, you started a 'petition', recruiting SBR members to support your quest to have SBR change their policy, which only helps out those members whose support you seek.
[B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.