Obama Wants To Be Added To Mount Rushmore

[rkelly110]

You guys are funny, eh, hoser?

[DwightShrute]

you are by far the biggest wackjob on sbr. You didn't respond to anything i said about health care because you would rather talk about bullshit. I gave references from health journals/actual statistics rather than bullshit anecdotes that you specialize in. Your grammar is irrelevant. What is relevant is that you never say anything worthwhile and never respond to anything specific. You just talk about posters and do ad homenim.

you used to go on an on about being Canadian - that's why it was worth mentioning...because now you are not Canadian.

again with the Canadian thing no wonder sane people always refer to you guys far left loons. I have never gone on and on about being Canadian and rarely mention it. You have mentioned my citizenship more that I EVER have. No wonder why some call liberalism a mental disorder. BTW, I forgot more about Canada than you will ever know.

Since you want to do nothing but throw out insults, ok then, I have never read anything you have ever posted that resembles even anything close to a rational thought but only the same ole same ole America is bad and Canada is great.

You are nothing but an uneducated name calling phony anti-American socialist that I know far too well because there are many like you unfortunately in Canada. You wouldn't know an original thought if it bit you in the ass.

You started all the name calling each and every time.

Now take off eh

[DwightShrute]

you guys are funny, eh, hoser?

take off eh!

[Turd Ferguson]

[The Madcap]

You quote the Canadian Medical Association which is the same organization who fought against universal health care in Canada from the beginning. They funded the opposition to health care across Canada in 1966 before Canada had the system that they do now. Doctors want the for-profit model because it profits their pocketbook. The Canadian public thankfully won that debate. The American Medical Association was helping them (CMA) as well as the Chambers of Commerce, private drug companies, and right wing newspapers. Does this sound at all familiar to you?

The president of the CMA does not represent Canadian citizens or popular opinion in the country. The newspapers you quoted are small town papers as well. Not exactly good sources there.

Here is a quote from wikipedia citing different polls done on the topic.

“A 2009 Harris/Decima poll found 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States, more than ten times as many as the 8% stating a preference for a US-style health care system for Canada[7] while a Strategic Counsel survey in 2008 found 91% of Canadians preferring their healthcare system to that of the U.S.[8]”

I have never met any Canadian that has wished we had the health care system of the US. Ever. I have met lots of Americans that have said they wish they had ours.

Here is what Amercians think of their health care. “A 2003 Gallup poll found only 25% of Americans are either "very" or "somewhat" satisfied with "the availability of affordable health care in the nation," versus 50% of those in the UK and 57% of Canadians. Those "very dissatisfied" made up 44% of Americans, 25% of respondents of Britons, and 17% of Canadians.[10]”


This should clear up the MRI thing that you are grossly misinformed about. The fact that you can find Shrute’s dad who supposedly waited 11 months is just an anecdote.

The median wait time for diagnostic services such as MRI and CAT scans [51] is two weeks with 86.4% waiting less than 90 days.[50

Wait, wait.....wait, wait.......

you discounted the stats presented in a news article by quoting un-linkable sources on WIKIF*CKINGPEDIA!?!!?!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh that's great.

Like I said, take off hoser.

[Cougar Bait]

George HW Bush is in favor of START.

So? And he was horrible too. What is your point?

No one is going to convince anyone of anything here, so rather than waste my time I am out. Have fun guys.

[kickenchicken]

i called my dog obama just now... he went and rolled in shit.. it was fresh!! he so smot

[marcoloco]

obama will probably spend the money before he is out of office to add him self to rushmore. my guess is he will just replace one of the current faces with his own. i am thinking jeffersons face will be made over

[Tsonga]

Wait, wait.....wait, wait.......

you discounted the stats presented in a news article by quoting un-linkable sources on WIKIF*CKINGPEDIA!?!!?!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh that's great.

Like I said, take off hoser.

You are stupider than I thought if you think wikipedia doesn't have sources listed. Every stat I gave has a source.

Here is the page if you are interested. Sources are all at the bottom. References for every stat I gave. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada

Unlinkable only for those who don't want to know the truth, and would rather have people believe them instead.

As if you think that a newspaper article trumps an encyclopedia. Stats were not even my criticism of the article you posted.

If you knew Canada then you would know that the two newspapers you quoted are pretty much irrelevant.

At least you keep with the status quo by not responding to ANY of the points.

[Tsonga]

nice video turd... Here's a good american version.

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[raiders72001]

[Tsonga]

they finally did it. good. I think we can consider this thread closed now.

[The Madcap]

You are stupider than I thought if you think wikipedia doesn't have sources listed. Every stat I gave has a source.

Here is the page if you are interested. Sources are all at the bottom. References for every stat I gave. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada

Unlinkable only for those who don't want to know the truth, and would rather have people believe them instead.

As if you think that a newspaper article trumps an encyclopedia. Stats were not even my criticism of the article you posted.

If you knew Canada then you would know that the two newspapers you quoted are pretty much irrelevant.

At least you keep with the status quo by not responding to ANY of the points.

Yes, the stats you gave have "sources." I clicked on a couple of them, they didn't link to anything. So that makes you the turd. I don't go around randomly running my mouth to Canadians as to how they do their shit, as I don't live there, so I don't care. Why do you care how we run our shit?

[Tsonga]

Yes, the stats you gave have "sources." I clicked on a couple of them, they didn't link to anything. So that makes you the turd. I don't go around randomly running my mouth to Canadians as to how they do their shit, as I don't live there, so I don't care. Why do you care how we run our shit?

They all work turd. This is a commentary on politics & economics. We are not changing anything here. If you don't think people from around the world influence US policy then you are pretty close minded.

[itchypickle]

Shouldn't his face be a little more to the right in that picture? I mean...see how it's a darker shade over there and all?

[The Madcap]

They all work turd. This is a commentary on politics & economics. We are not changing anything here. If you don't think people from around the world influence US policy then you are pretty close minded.

No dickhead, they don't work. They might link to Wikipedia, but they don't link from Wikipedia to anything else, nor do they list how I can verify such information. As in #51---the "source" listing at Wikipedia is merely:

"^ Diagnostic tests defined as the following: non-emergency magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) devices; computed tomography (CT or CAT) scans; and angiographies that use X-rays to examine the inner opening of blood-filled structures such as veins and arteries."

And I'm sorry but that doesn't qualify as a "source." That's a description. Hence my inability to fact check your statements about MRI wait times and why I called you a dumbass for using wikipedia. Capice?

[Tsonga]

Regardless of you finding a source in Wikipedia without a proper reference does not make it a bad source...it makes it a quote that needs a reference. Its an encyclopedia in progress...I'm sure i didn't have to tell you that.

looks like out of the 102 sources that #51 just has a description.
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Its not like you really cared about any of the arguments...you just want a way to say you don't need to listen to any of it. The fact remains that Canada has the US beat on many aspects of health care like the one's i mentioned.

The sad part is the the US companies are sneaking their way into Canada and really trying hard to privatize health care in which is making medicare weaker here...that's why Canada was ranked #30 in the world for the WHO. US was way behind but there are other countries that do it better....

and they do it through 'socialized medicine'. for profit & health care should not go together. the French, who most seem to hate in this forum, have great health care. The US could learn a lot from the French in that respect.

[The Madcap]

Regardless of you finding a source in Wikipedia without a proper reference does not make it a bad source...it makes it a quote that needs a reference. Its an encyclopedia in progress...I'm sure i didn't have to tell you that.

looks like out of the 102 sources that #51 just has a description.
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Its not like you really cared about any of the arguments...you just want a way to say you don't need to listen to any of it. The fact remains that Canada has the US beat on many aspects of health care like the one's i mentioned.

The sad part is the the US companies are sneaking their way into Canada and really trying hard to privatize health care in which is making medicare weaker here...that's why Canada was ranked #30 in the world for the WHO. US was way behind but there are other countries that do it better....

and they do it through 'socialized medicine'. for profit & health care should not go together. the French, who most seem to hate in this forum, have great health care. The US could learn a lot from the French in that respect.

51 wasn't the only one. There were others. I know because it pissed me off. One isn't enough to piss me off. One is just a simple mistake. But there were more. And the whole time I was trying to check your sources I was thinking "dammit Tsonga, this is why wikipedia is for morons."

I'm sure that the Canadian system beats a lot of what we do down here. That's besides the point any rational American will make. Hawaii's Bryant Moniz has the most passing yards in college football, doesn't mean any coach would rather have him than Cam Newton. It's about the whole package. And having gone through what I've just gone through with my injury, let's just say I'm damned happy I live in the US and not Canada. And if I lived in Canada, I totally would have come down here to get what I needed so as not have to wait 3-4 months.

And I'll tell you this---you should be happy we have the system we do have down here. If our system had the same flaws yours did, guess what, you wouldn't have the system you have. Your rich people can run down to America. If that wasn't available to them you can bet your bottom dollar you system would be overhauled overnight.

[Finalnub]

lolbama.. not gonna happen. huge disappointment

[Tsonga]

And I'll tell you this---you should be happy we have the system we do have down here. If our system had the same flaws yours did, guess what, you wouldn't have the system you have. Your rich people can run down to America. If that wasn't available to them you can bet your bottom dollar you system would be overhauled overnight.

Not a good argument. The only reason rich people go to the states if they want to is because medicare in Canada has had funding slashed. The private health companies are hoping to turn Canada into a system like the states, and not as much is covered.

If our health care system was stronger...like those in France, Germany, UK then rich people running off wouldn't be as much of an issue. We need stronger funding of medicare--- like other countries have, we allow provinces to have more 'for-profit' operations. 'socialized' medicine works better.

[GoldenYAK]

again with the Canadian thing no wonder sane people always refer to you guys far left loons.

hah. Your the one crazy enough to believe the president wanted to be added to Mt. Rushmore.

Who is really the lunatic??

[DwightShrute]

double post

[DwightShrute]

hah. Your the one crazy enough to believe the president wanted to be added to Mt. Rushmore.

Who is really the lunatic??

how old are you?

Your the one crazy enough to believe that I believed the president wanted to be added to Mt. Rushmore.
Who is really the lunatic??