Bears will beat the pats

thebestthereis · 12-07-10, 10:21 AM

if if snows and the weather sucks the pats will roll, that favors them in a monster way. brady has never lost in snow in his career. cutler will have the stupid look on his face at the same time like he always does.

LT Profits · 12-07-10, 10:38 AM

The Patriots are the best team in football right now and the Bears are NOT underrated. If anything they are overrated, they are not a legitimate 9-3 team. They may not even win their division, I think the Packers beat them in the rematch in Green Bay and the tiebreakers could get interesting considering a Green Bay win would leave the teams tied in head-to-head, division record and conference record as of now.

All of that said, the Bears could be a good play this week.

But that is only because of the situation, not because the Bears are anywhere close to the Pats talent wise.

gshock1 · 12-07-10, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

The Patriots are the best team in football right now and the Bears are NOT underrated. If anything they are overrated, they are not a legitimate 9-3 team. They may not even win their division, I think the Packers beat them in the rematch in Green Bay and the tiebreakers could get interesting considering a Green Bay win would leave the teams tied in head-to-head, division record and conference record as of now.

All of that said, the Bears could be a good play the week.

But that is only because of the situation, not because the Bears are anywhere close to the Pats talent wise.

Pats offense is superior but the Bears D & ST are head and shoulders above NE.

LT Profits · 12-07-10, 10:44 AM

No doubt Bears have the better defense, not no defense in football can stop Brady right now.

Ralphie1412 · 12-07-10, 10:48 AM

Lakerboy I will be at the game. If you fly to chicago I got a ticket for you.

LT Profits · 12-07-10, 10:57 AM

Opening Line:

New England -3, O/U 44

lakerboy · 12-07-10, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Ralphie1412

Lakerboy I will be at the game. If you fly to chicago I got a ticket for you.

Thanks Ralphie- would love to be there but really busy with xmas rush these days.

d2bets · 12-07-10, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by thebestthereis

if if snows and the weather sucks the pats will roll, that favors them in a monster way. brady has never lost in snow in his career. cutler will have the stupid look on his face at the same time like he always does.

You've been repeating this every week, meanwhile the Bears and Cutler keep winning and the offense keeps getting better. Might be time to adjust your thinking.

awesomeness · 12-07-10, 11:26 AM

Come on and just keep it up

newjerseydevils · 12-07-10, 11:49 AM

Bears ml for the win!

d2bets · 12-07-10, 11:56 AM

FWIW expect a massive snowstorm next weekend in Chicago. Lots of snow. Honestly not sure who that favors, but I imagine that's why the total cratered from 44 to 41.

d2bets · 12-07-10, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by thebestthereis

if if snows and the weather sucks the pats will roll, that favors them in a monster way. brady has never lost in snow in his career. cutler will have the stupid look on his face at the same time like he always does.

Do you have some data or actual evidence about Cutler in the snow? I'm sure Cutler has competed in the snow many times.

KACK · 12-07-10, 12:22 PM

GL but I don't see the Bears beating the Pats

Double Bogey · 12-07-10, 12:25 PM

This thread is a perfect example why the books are rich. Not saying the Bears Will win for sure, but betting the Pats is just not a good bet. If you bet these situations often you will go broke. This is a classic let down game after a big win on a Monday night.

k13 · 12-07-10, 12:32 PM

Sure why not???? Browns beat the Patriots.

Line is only 3, MNF means nothing.

Herky · 12-07-10, 12:33 PM

Bears are the most overrated team in the league. Could very easily be 3-9.

Redchevy · 12-07-10, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Double Bogey

This thread is a perfect example why the books are rich. Not saying the Bears Will win for sure, but betting the Pats is just not a good bet. If you bet these situations often you will go broke. This is a classic let down game after a big win on a Monday night.

Maybe a classic let down game for many NFL Teams but after their 1 let down game against the Browns, I don't see Belichick not having this Team ready for Chicago. This is a spot where he excells as a coach. With the way Brady is clicking with this offense right now, it's hard to bet against them, at least for me it is. I would also have a hard time betting that Cutler will outplay Brady, no matter where the game is. I don't think I could bet Chicago with a gun to my head.

d2bets · 12-07-10, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Herky

Bears are the most overrated team in the league. Could very easily be 3-9.

They could also easily be 11-1.

People said the same thing all season about the '05 Bears.

icemaster47 · 12-07-10, 02:16 PM

this is not something I would put a dime on, call me square but I would need a lot more than +3 after seeing the Pats demolish the Jets by 42

louis.ana · 12-07-10, 02:18 PM

Culter will choke, Brady is playing at his best
After watching last nights game, I expect the same outcome for the Bears that the Jets had to face

Snowball · 12-07-10, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

it is possible, but bears have won with smoke and mirrors. am always reluctant to put my money on jay cutler and mike martz. they've gotten some great officiating to give them 3 wins andi will give martz credit for pulling his head out of his ass and realizing his line sucks dog dick as pass blockers. mixing the run in keeps cutler from having to throw too often. when game falls on cutler's back you can kiss your money goodbye. kid has talent, but is this era's jeff george. a loser.

only concern backing pats here is a potential letdown spot. gotta think bill has them practicing crisp and do you really want to put your cash on lovie and martz vs. bill? that's the equivalent of siding with brock and lang vs. billy walters.

good luck to you all.

agree with everything said here.

rsnnh12 · 12-07-10, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by gshock1

Pats offense is superior but the Bears D & ST are head and shoulders above NE.

Howis the ST "head and shoulders" above NE? The Pats have one of the best special teams units in the league.

bretb27 · 12-07-10, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by gshock1

Early weather forecast is calling for snow showers and temps in the teens. The Bears are going to take this one.

good call genius.. as if it doesn't snow and get cold in NE. Brady's never lost in the snow, get a clue

bretb27 · 12-07-10, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Thanks Ralphie- would love to be there but really busy with xmas rush these days.

In other words he's having a cold streak and can't afford a plane ticket lol

thebestthereis · 12-07-10, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Do you have some data or actual evidence about Cutler in the snow? I'm sure Cutler has competed in the snow many times.

my data is my eyes and watching every game brady has played in the snow, mainly blowouts. he thrives in bad weather and in big games. if you are betting chicago you are hoping for a fluke letdown like what happened in cleveland and i had cleveland in that game. cutler is a southern boy and he has never won squat when it counted. this game is huge for chicago because they will need to win the division (likely) to make the playoffs with some tough games on the horizon at minny and green as well as the jets. i make fun of cutler a lot and most of it is just babble because he does have some talent but he makes too many mistakes. brady will not likely make a mistake and cutler will in my opinion. normally i like to bet against teams that just played like they did on monday night but not here, can't do it. pressure is on the bears, we will see where cutler is at after this one.

bretb27 · 12-07-10, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Double Bogey

This thread is a perfect example why the books are rich. Not saying the Bears Will win for sure, but betting the Pats is just not a good bet. If you bet these situations often you will go broke. This is a classic let down game after a big win on a Monday night.

weren't the patriots supposed to have a letdown against the colts? the lions? the steelers? the ravens? the jets? Come on man you are not giving the patriots enough credit here

gshock1 · 12-07-10, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by bretb27

good call genius.. as if it doesn't snow and get cold in NE. Brady's never lost in the snow, get a clue

I know I am a genious! Been tearing it up this year ass hole. Brady wont do shit when he's on his back. The quick slants wont work against these LBs.

samdapatriotsfan · 12-07-10, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by statnerds

How can anyone say they are too strong when they have the worst defense in the NFL?

Get tired of watching Pats games. Teams come out too conservative. Looks like 2007 again. You need to come out and attack this shit defense. Pats play a simplistic defense. Load up to stop run on first down, pressure in passing situations.

Yep, you called it NerdBoy. Steelers suck, Colts suck, San Diego Sucks, Jets suck and CLE is a perennial SB winner (According to your statement).

San Diego, statistically, has one of the best defenses in the league... how are they faring this season?

at your thoughts, superb insight and very well thought out post...

NOT!!!

The Bet Master · 12-07-10, 03:40 PM

I'll be rooting for the bears, But I can't bet against the Patriots after what they did last night.

dodger33 · 12-07-10, 03:46 PM

The funny thing is no matter how many times we try and tell people not to live week to week with these teams people still do. NE had 9 days to prepare for this game and Brady even admitted himself he got to prepare in ways he never has before. Now they only have 5 days to prepare for this game. NE is not that good and the Jets are not that bad. The Jets GAVE UP in the second half and the Pats wanted to make them pay, that is the only reason for the one sided score.

slyone66 · 12-07-10, 03:49 PM

to everyone on this thread who don't think the Patriots are for real. go ahead and put your money on chitcago. and don't cry later when we told you so. PATRIOTS NATION BABY

rsnnh12 · 12-07-10, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by dodger33

The funny thing is no matter how many times we try and tell people not to live week to week with these teams people still do. NE had 9 days to prepare for this game and Brady even admitted himself he got to prepare in ways he never has before. Now they only have 5 days to prepare for this game. NE is not that good and the Jets are not that bad. The Jets GAVE UP in the second half and the Pats wanted to make them pay, that is the only reason for the one sided score.

You're right, they suck

szk1983 · 12-07-10, 03:58 PM

i personally think the pats take this one easy

BettingWizard · 12-07-10, 04:03 PM

both teams have overachieved, agree with taking the points.

d2bets · 12-07-10, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by thebestthereis

my data is my eyes and watching every game brady has played in the snow, mainly blowouts. he thrives in bad weather and in big games. if you are betting chicago you are hoping for a fluke letdown like what happened in cleveland and i had cleveland in that game. cutler is a southern boy and he has never won squat when it counted. this game is huge for chicago because they will need to win the division (likely) to make the playoffs with some tough games on the horizon at minny and green as well as the jets. i make fun of cutler a lot and most of it is just babble because he does have some talent but he makes too many mistakes. brady will not likely make a mistake and cutler will in my opinion. normally i like to bet against teams that just played like they did on monday night but not here, can't do it. pressure is on the bears, we will see where cutler is at after this one.

Most of those games were at Foxboro. Road game might be different. Plus, Brady's not alone here. I'm wondering if Green-Ellis has ever played a snow game? He might not have. Cutler grew up in Santa Claus, Indiana. He's not a southern boy. He's played in many snow and cold games. Off base there.

Bears/Cutler are 5-0 since the bye/since Garza returned to make their O-Line intact. Cutler over 100 avg passer rating last 5 games with 10 TD to 3 INT and completing 66% and 53% 3rd down conversions. Been a whole new ballgame for the offense. 2 or 3 games may not a trend make, but 5 pretty much does. This is a different offense than what we saw early in the season. New England is still second to last in yards allowed per game. The Bears are gonna put up points here.

Snow or not, I like the over.