eagles are over rated

**Nepaa** · 11-20-10, 03:18 AM

i think they will go down this week.

**duwork** · 11-20-10, 03:19 AM

This week, yes. They will, however, be in the NFC championship game.

**StraitShooter** · 11-20-10, 03:20 AM

They are playing good ball now. Hopefully they did not peak too early //With all the parity anyone can win it all its who is hott, healthy and lucky down da stretch

**duwork** · 11-20-10, 03:22 AM

Parity; nice word. NFL is all about parity. More people should see this.

**bobbyk1133** · 11-20-10, 04:03 AM

Originally posted by butter23

without a doubt

I just love clicking on a thread to get insightful analysis like this.

Originally posted by duwork

Parity; nice word. NFL is all about parity. More people should see this.

If the NFL is about "parity" why do the same teams make the playoffs year after year? NE, PHI, IND, PIT, etc etc.

The parameters are in place to have parity in the league, but not all owners/GMs/coaches are created equal. There's a reason certain teams suck every year while others contend.

Parity is a myth the NFL feeds to the herd to make them think their team has a chance every season.

**duwork** · 11-20-10, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by bobbyk1133

I just love clicking on a thread to get insightful analysis like this.

If the NFL is about "parity" why do the same teams make the playoffs year after year? NE, PHI, IND, PIT, etc etc. The parameters are in place to have parity in the league, but not all owners/GMs/coaches are created equal. There's a reason certain teams suck every year while others contend. Parity is a myth the NFL feeds to the herd to make them think their team has a chance every season.

While I completely disagree that the NFL isn't about parity, this is definitely a subjective matter. I do believe in legacy and one cannot argue certain franchises consistently succeed; however, the majority of the NFL, week in-week out is about parity, and the majority of successful sports bettors will argue that parity does play a large factor in their analysis. As I stated in the previous post, I do believe the Eagles will once again make it to the playoffs; however, I don't see them covering this week against NYG. Furthermore, I think we're looking @ this from two different perspectives - I believe you're talking more in terms of the finished project while I'm looking @ a week-to-week basis. This year alone, 'dogs are hitting around 40% SU - if that's not parity, please explain.

**bobbyk1133** · 11-20-10, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by duwork

I'm looking @ a week-to-week basis. This year alone, 'dogs are hitting around 40% SU - if that's not parity, please explain.

As the saying goes 'on any given sunday'....

Dogs have been winning at an unprecedented rate this year, but that has nothing to do with sudden 'parity' in the league. It's the same league it was last year, and the year before that, and so on. Take a closer look at who is covering the spread and who isn't. Most of the division leaders are covering. It's easy in statistics to get thrown off by a general overall number, but once you get into the nitty gritty it's a much different story.

Did you ever consider that bookmakers know what the public perception was of teams for the 1st month of the season? More dogs covered in the 1st 4-5 weeks of the season than the last 4-5. The reason is simple. If you know a little bit about psychology you'll know that beliefs are stubborn and hard to change. It takes a bunch of evidence before we finally change our mind about something. There were many good examples of this to start the year. MIN, DAL, SF etc. The public kept betting them week after week after week thinking they would "turn it around" and play how they thought they were going to. The truth was those teams sucked and it wasn't until the quarter-way mark until people finally had enough proof to fade them.

There's a lot more involved in the results than the oversimplified reason of 'parity'.

**duwork** · 11-20-10, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by bobbyk1133

As the saying goes 'on any given sunday'.... Dogs have been winning at an unprecedented rate this year, but that has nothing to do with sudden 'parity' in the league. It's the same league it was last year, and the year before that, and so on. Take a closer look at who is covering the spread and who isn't. Most of the division leaders are covering. It's easy in statistics to get thrown off by a general overall number, but once you get into the nitty gritty it's a much different story. Did you ever consider that bookmakers know what the public perception was of teams for the 1st month of the season? More dogs covered in the 1st 4-5 weeks of the season than the last 4-5. The reason is simple. If you know a little bit about psychology you'll know that beliefs are stubborn and hard to change. It takes a bunch of evidence before we finally change our mind about something. There were many good examples of this to start the year. MIN, DAL, SF etc. The public kept betting them week after week after week thinking they would "turn it around" and play how they thought they were going to. The truth was those teams sucked and it wasn't until the quarter-way mark until people finally had enough proof to fade them. There's a lot more involved in the results than the oversimplified reason of 'parity'.

I understand this and really could care less about discussing the improveable psychological angle of the bookmakers. I'll let my record speak for itself. And it's documented.

**bobbyk1133** · 11-20-10, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by duwork

I understand this and really could care less about discussing the improveable psychological angle of the bookmakers. I'll let my record speak for itself. And it's documented.

What does your "record" have to do with anything? Are you saying that your record proves parity?

**duwork** · 11-20-10, 04:50 AM

My record proves that I'm smarter than you. Handicap and don't argue; you might win more games. BTW, you're going to miss on the PHI and ATL games this week.

**bobbyk1133** · 11-20-10, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by duwork

My record proves that I'm smarter than you. Handicap and don't argue; you might win more games. BTW, you're going to miss on the PHI and ATL games this week.

Are you talking about your 12-4 record?

Cap 100 games and we'll talk.

And next time when we debate I'll try to use one and two syllable words so you understand the discussion.

**duwork** · 11-20-10, 04:58 AM

Seriously? Nice rebuttal; regular James Carville on our hands. Please don't be the guy that got beat up in high school. It's becoming clearly evident you're ignorant and have something to prove.

If so, wager 50 points on each of the two games I said you'll lose this week. It's fair enough considering they were in your write-up and on my card. In all, I take NYG +3.5 and STL +3, for 50 sbr points each - deal?

**duwork** · 11-20-10, 05:01 AM

C'mon, quit rapin' your Mom's cat and gamble.

**Robust** · 11-20-10, 06:28 AM

eagles win! all I am saying

Robust

**Shonner** · 11-20-10, 07:34 AM

OP clearly knows nothing about NFL or sports

**Dirty Sanchez** · 11-20-10, 07:53 AM

The Eagles have the "look" right now, and there's not another defense in the league that can keep up with their speed

**BRAVES1985** · 11-20-10, 08:17 AM

eagles are not over rated but i wonder if vick can keep this up

**Salamander** · 11-20-10, 08:57 AM

Definitely not overrated Eagles going far far far this year.

**BigRich3113** · 11-20-10, 09:13 AM

They are overrated because of all the hype Michael Vick is getting, however I do think they are a top 3 in the NFC. Vick is playing lights out, but he can not keep putting up the numbers he has been, and the Eagles defense is still mediocore. Once Mike Vick plays a top 10 or top 5 caliber defense, we will truely see what he is made of.

**Grux** · 11-20-10, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by BigRich3113

They are overrated because of all the hype Michael Vick is getting, however I do think they are a top 3 in the NFC. Vick is playing lights out, but he can not keep putting up the numbers he has been, and the Eagles defense is still mediocore. Once Mike Vick plays a top 10 or top 5 caliber defense, we will truely see what he is made of.

The giants defense will be ready after getting smoked by Dallas.

**slacker00** · 11-20-10, 10:14 AM

Vick is great... until he pulls a hammy. Follow his career, his luck always runs out. Giants are the ones who break QBs.

**vboyt** · 11-20-10, 10:23 AM

eagles will play the falcons in the NFC championship. thats the farthest they'll go

**ACSeminole** · 11-20-10, 08:01 PM

eagles are a nice team but they are young and at some point it will catch up. also they dont have a great D. They havent really been put to the test yet. Beat a beat up colts team and havent beaten anybody worth noting. Atlanta was a nice win but I watched that game and Atlanta didn't even show up. good team but not a championship team.

Steelers, Giants, Pats win championships, eagles make runs and thats how it will STAY

**mukas pukas** · 11-20-10, 08:41 PM

perhaps... but nobody has separated themselves so far. it's their potential to get even better that you should watch out for

**icancount2one** · 11-20-10, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by vboyt

eagles will play the falcons in the NFC championship. thats the farthest they'll go

Because there's no way they'll beat the falcons this year

Come on guys, the Eagles beat the Colts and Falcons and put up insane numbers on a division rival on the road and they're not at the top of anybody's list. No way are they "over rated".

**thebestthereis** · 11-20-10, 09:01 PM

Eagles worst team besides Panthers, lower few easily

**pmidy88** · 11-20-10, 09:33 PM

if michael vick continues his tare eagles are beast

**Dr.Money** · 11-20-10, 09:37 PM

when QB' has 6 total TD's in one week....what do they usually do the following week?!?!???

food for thought.

**Bogart45** · 11-20-10, 10:59 PM

A 6-3 team playing at home is favored by 3, playing against another 6-3 team in a division game. Who is overrating them?

It must be THEM. THEM is always doing stuff like that, right? Damn THEM!!!

**mattyend33** · 11-20-10, 11:02 PM

eagles defense is solid especially in the titans game...the monday nite football game were titans held jaguars to 3 points those athletes couldnt even walk off the field they were out there shaking hands in the fourth quarter...i see the eagles as a contender in the come up of both the afc and nfc...my pick the titans because they are my favorite team

**gohabsgo** · 11-21-10, 12:01 AM

eagles are not overated, if vicks show-up they'll destroy the giants.
Remember last year giants? Giants are OVER RATED.

**thezbar** · 11-21-10, 12:04 AM

Eagle's are over valued at the moment. Over rated? Time will tell.

**manny24** · 11-21-10, 12:15 AM

g-men will win tomorrow.

**konck** · 11-21-10, 12:18 AM

Public is on the Eagles enough said.....Go GIANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!