To use or to not use a capper???

**rfr3sh** · 11-16-10, 01:34 PM

if someones picks are that good, they will make enough money that they dont need to sell them
hense touts, get suckers to buy their picks to cover there losses

**bandit bettor** · 11-16-10, 01:37 PM

well in this case i was the sucker but i thought being on a rep site like espn they wouldnt endorse such rubbish... But you live and learn

**jjgold** · 11-16-10, 01:45 PM

Your a sucker
Never pay for a service
Rfr is correct

**pavyracer** · 11-16-10, 01:47 PM

I bet you JJ is going amok today with his ghosts.

**bandit bettor** · 11-16-10, 01:48 PM

thanks jj i was just sharing my story im sure theres a million of these storys.. Just wanted to get peoples perception of using a service instead of studying and making your own selections and how your sports betting has changed for good or bad... For me it was mostly bad i find the best way is to make yourself as knowledgable as possible study and make your own plays..

**jayc88** · 11-16-10, 01:56 PM

dont buy anyones picks
if you cant make money on your own quit gambling

**stikymess** · 11-16-10, 02:05 PM

Paying for picks = a big whole you have to dig out of. Before a game goes off you are down money. Do the research, look at angles, history, you could be on the right side of a game and a bullpen or late turnover can lose the game for you. That's part of it. May want to try flat betting, there isn't a game that you should like more that you put 2500 hundy on if you are a 50 buck bettor.

**bandit bettor** · 11-16-10, 02:06 PM

Does anyone have a story to share or is this just state the obvious i know i was the sucker... But if you have never lurked your head in the world of using a service its easy to fall for there trap.. I know i was stupid a sucker a idiot etc I will never pay for a pick again you can rest assured thats one lesson i learned ive been doing decent the last few weeks and i actually feel better doing my own homework and choosing a side... Instead of paying for some shlub to lose my money never again!!! so far this year has been decent so hopes are up to edge some kind of profit from last years debocle...

**bandit bettor** · 11-16-10, 02:09 PM

thanks sky your right ive been betting the same but there are times that call for a out of comfort zone bet, Those times shouldnt include some dude lying about having inside information on a game that is so solid its has if he was hinting to me the game was gonna be thrown or rigged buy the mafia or some shit... I usually stick around 50-75 a game if i love a game now a couple hundo not getting crazy anymore last year took like 6 years off my life....

**Squirrel** · 11-16-10, 02:10 PM

If you REALLY need to make some coin but can't seem to do it yourself then just read JJGolds spreadsheet and fade everything, that'll be a nice income for you

**obamaismyuncle** · 11-16-10, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by bandit bettor

hey guys,
last year i was your average run of the mill sports bettor winning some weeks losing some weeks but never winning or losing enough to make a fuss over... Then after my biggest winning week ever 1800 i know some of u laugh at that but for a 50 dollar a game bettor thats a huge hit.. I thought to myself if i could make this kind of score a average fan imagine what a proffesional could do.. So it began i was gonna take my 1800 bucks hire a capper and be rich!!!! so i heard a ad on espn radio for some capper claiming to be killing the books i called got the free pick and it won so a day later i was whipping out the VC for 200 bucks for a weeks worth of pics.. To my suprise the guy started off on fire 7-1 buy wednesday but as the week progressed he was pushing me to bet more per game cause he claimed the price of picks was more and he was giving me a introductory rate and my 50 sometimes 100 a game wasnt gonna make me the profits that this salesman envisoned.. He wanted me to start betting 500 a game and like a sucker i was thinking how that 7-1 would feel at 500 a game so i took the bait, well that 7-1 turned into a 8-7 buy sunday night and i was stuck over 3 grand.. The next week he calls me and says some bull about how that never happens he usually hits around 70 percent plus and he was going to let me stay at the introductory rate for one more week!!! can u ******* believe it this guy loses me 3 grand and wants another 200 whats even worse is he was so excited about the upcoming week i figured **** it and gave it to him.. The next week he has a break even week he was like 9-6 going into saturday when the phone call from hell comes saturday evening.. He sais he has inside information on a college night game that can not lose and this will be a easy cover but he needs me to move upwards of 2 grand on this game cause this is the kind of information that only comes along once or twice a year.. I was so nervous but i decided to try it so i put 2500 on the game and it wasnt even close i lost the bet buy halftime... I was so sick i figured how can these guys make a living and better yet how does espn such a rebutable name endorse there lies.. So i still wasnt off the idea that there has to be a proffesional who can make me money i spent the next year using different cappers with minimal success and answering sales calls from all the cappers this espn guy whored my number too i would get 15 calls a week, from guys who were gonna fly me to maui and make me a six figure income betting sports all the blah blah blah rubbish in the end they all went flat..

so my question is how has your sports betting expierience changed since using and or paying for a service..
do you have any horror storys like this? or any good storys where a capper really did change your life id love to hear all the expierience good or bad!!

for me this site has been nice and i grab a pick here and there but ive fell back to my old ways of not winning or losing enough to worry about...

The verdict on handicappers in general for me is they have the same information available as we do so what makes them so special some claim to be prophets but all and all its the art of selling the dream that there good at and for me most cant do what they promise , most dont even come close!!

I would never use a paid service.

**kittsuno** · 11-16-10, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by rfr3sh

if someones picks are that good, they will make enough money that they dont need to sell them
hense touts, get suckers to buy their picks to cover there losses

Absolutely 100% agree. This is the truth!!

**THE PROFIT** · 11-16-10, 02:20 PM

The goddamn spelling on here never ceases to amaze me

"cover there losses"
"Your a sucker"
"dig out of a whole"

what the fuk is wrong with you people?

**bandit bettor** · 11-16-10, 02:22 PM

yeah makes sense but for most of these guys hussling is all they know how to do... What lured me in the most was the fact that it was espn and he was documenting a amazing record on the air wouldnt think they would allow someone to lie under there name.. the thing was all and all he did win more then he lost for the 2 weeks i used him week one 8-7 and week two 9-7 with the one huge loss but the way he pushed certain games to be locks and wanted me to bet so much more then i was comftorable with was what made it a loss... Do they think the average person has 500 a game in my world to be a 500 a game bettor you have to make about 150,000 a year at your job to afford such a gamble.. and he was pushing me towards this and i make 40,000 a year

**dinaro7** · 11-16-10, 02:23 PM

i tried jim fiest called his free line 18882941970 then i get a call from those cockroachs and they tell ,me they

**bandit bettor** · 11-16-10, 02:25 PM

once you give them your cell your doomed i had to change my number i was getting 6-8 calls a day from different guys

**THE PROFIT** · 11-16-10, 02:27 PM

bandit, I suggest you get advice from a forum that grasps the English language on higher than a seventh grade average

But seriously, touts take your money, dont care about you, will tell you anything. They are in the numbers business. These fuks are in boiler rooms going over lists upon lists of telephone #'s. You mean shit to them & they give half the customers one side & half the other side.

That way half liked the winner & will be easier persuaded into buying more or upgrading. The half that lost feel they are owed & will pay to be on the winning streak. Its psychological sales, feeding on ones emotions & weaknesses.

**bandit bettor** · 11-16-10, 02:30 PM

sorry profit spelling and gram never was my strong suit.. I think your right that night he called me with the inside info he probally had one of his bigger bettors on the hook for the other side and

**dinaro7** · 11-16-10, 02:39 PM

have a special 99 dollars for 1 week which includes 1 500 dollar game then after i give them the card number someone calls me right back telling me for another 450 dollars i will get thier top top plays i tell them no i get i good play then they must flip a coin they go about 45 percent all in all jim fiest is the biggest cockroach of all then they block my number from calling any of thier freepik numbers

**bandit bettor** · 11-16-10, 02:42 PM

I love how information has a price value after you sign up they tell you basically you just bought are average information but are really top secret big money information is available for 5 times what you just paid... Cockroach is the best way to describe these leachs

**big0mar** · 11-16-10, 03:00 PM

**jjgold** · 11-16-10, 03:10 PM

touts are all frauds

all lose and all do not gamble

stay away from them

**THE PROFIT** · 11-16-10, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by bandit bettor

sorry profit spelling and gram never was my strong suit.. I think your right that night he called me with the inside info he probally had one of his bigger bettors on the hook for the other side and

thats how they play