As a dog lover, I'm happy for Vick

[SBR_John]

What he did was wrong and of course illegal. He didnt walk, he took the chain like the rest of us would have.

But unlike Tyson or the long list of guys who fell off the common sense wagon he did his time and came back commited to be the best he could be. Vick=All Pro? Who would have thunk it? Good for him...

[bobbyfk]

Honestly after what he did I don't think he should have been allowed back in the NFL...Just my 2 cents

[Ninersnut]

Please people are still back in the NFL after killing people. Yes it is cruel but people are doing a lot worse in different countries.

[Mikail]

I am mixed on this one. What he did is horrible but he paid his dues and debt to society. I truly believe he regrets the mistakes he made and is making the most of the oppurtunity he has been given. Everyone deserves a second chance. We aren't perfect. None of us. He is playing like an All Pro and let's rate him on that. On a personal note as and Eagles fan I'd love to see Vick lead them Birds deep into the playoffs.

[Fishhead]

Does he currently own any dogs, Vick that is?

[Mikail]

Does he currently own any dogs, Vick that is?

I doubt he would be allowed to. Probably a condition of his release.

[whatsgood5]

As a Redskins fan, I am not happy for Vick

But on a more serious note, he's fukking good, FML

[jwbama23]

He paid his debt. Good for him. He has a right to get a second chance.

[AribaAriba]

its just a dog lets not humanize them, they're the same entity like the chicken that we eat

[ngates815]

Please people are still back in the NFL after killing people. Yes it is cruel but people are doing a lot worse in different countries.

Yep....And where are all the people talking about Stallworth? He killed a HUMAN, which last I checked should be worse than torturing some dogs. But we don't hear about that every Ravens game, since he isn't in the spotlight.


Fuckked up place we live in, where animals mean more than a mans life.


I'm sorry but If I had to choose to have either my dog tortured or my uncle/father/grandpa Killed by a drunk driver after he got off work, i'd easily choose dog tortured.


Who got the longer prison sentence between Vick and Stallworth?

[jjgold]

Most pit bulls have no use and are only fighters and cause terror

Vick did nothing wrong in my eyes

[Jnas]

Vick served his time and paid a bigger price then some murderers (of humans) and rapists.
I am glad he got his career back, I just hope he won't start to be a punk again off the field.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

As a Falcons fan and a fan of M.Vick since coming to the ATL organization 2001, its great to see him back.

By far the most athletic QB playing in the NFL right now, no question there.

[jjgold]

Lets not kid our fukkin selves here

The City of Phila does not give a fuk if he killed 2,000 dogs nor do we bettors that bet him

Its all about winning and that is fukkin it

[crustyme]

redskins were a home dog so vick electrocuted them.

[opie1988]

Yep....And where are all the people talking about Stallworth? He killed a HUMAN, which last I checked should be worse than torturing some dogs. But we don't hear about that every Ravens game, since he isn't in the spotlight.


Fuckked up place we live in, where animals mean more than a mans life.


I'm sorry but If I had to choose to have either my dog tortured or my uncle/father/grandpa Killed by a drunk driver after he got off work, i'd easily choose dog tortured.


Who got the longer prison sentence between Vick and Stallworth?

Here's something i never thought I'd say: I agree with Ngates.

I own dogs. In fact, spoiled, rotten dogs. In no way would i want someone to torture them. But at the end of the day, they are DOGS. Not kids. While I certainly don't think I would be into dogfighting.....I really think Vick got screwed. This was part of his culture growing up. Lets remember as well that these were Pit Bulls he was raising to fight. Its not like he was out there throwing Basset Hounds into the fighting pit! These weren't your typical house pets, unless your dog has to be restrained by a logging chain.

It amazes me that Leonard Little is not vilified in anyway close to the way Vick is. A lot of this is the backlash from PETA and the SPCA. 2 terrorist groups which equate animal lives equally with human lives. if you ask me, they're the ones who are f***ed up.

Good for Mike Vick. Shortly after he was arrested, I bought a signed Vick Falcons jersey at a sports show. They had it on close out for $15. Signed OJ Simpson jerseys were $300. Is that how it should be? Really??

[blackbeSSt]

Honestly after what he did I don't think he should have been allowed back in the NFL...Just my 2 cents

Yep....And where are all the people talking about Stallworth? He killed a HUMAN, which last I checked should be worse than torturing some dogs. But we don't hear about that every Ravens game, since he isn't in the spotlight.


Fuckked up place we live in, where animals mean more than a mans life.


I'm sorry but If I had to choose to have either my dog tortured or my uncle/father/grandpa Killed by a drunk driver after he got off work, i'd easily choose dog tortured.


Who got the longer prison sentence between Vick and Stallworth?

rebuttal bobby?

[SBR_John]

Lets remember as well that these were Pit Bulls he was raising to fight. Its not like he was out there throwing Basset Hounds into the fighting pit! These weren't your typical house pets, unless your dog has to be restrained by a logging chain.

Good line.

Personally, he should indeed be held to a higher standard. He was a role model, a multi zillionaire playing a game. And he didnt just have a dog that fought in the hood, it was more like a organized crime circuit with dozens of dogs fighting in different states to generate a profit. But he man-uped, took his number and did his time in the joint. Didnt play the race card or blame his up bringing or say his dad whupped him, ect.

[crustyme]

the greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.

- mahatma gandhi

[3PtShooter]

hope this comes out right,,,,,this is his culture (pitbulls) these days just not socially accepted,,,some feel racing greyhounds is cruel

[pavyracer]

Honestly after what he did I don't think he should have been allowed back in the NFL...Just my 2 cents

I agree with this. He should have been in jail for much longer.

[blackbeSSt]

I agree with this. He should have been in jail for much longer.

Yep....And where are all the people talking about Stallworth? He killed a HUMAN, which last I checked should be worse than torturing some dogs. But we don't hear about that every Ravens game, since he isn't in the spotlight.


Fuckked up place we live in, where animals mean more than a mans life.


I'm sorry but If I had to choose to have either my dog tortured or my uncle/father/grandpa Killed by a drunk driver after he got off work, i'd easily choose dog tortured.


Who got the longer prison sentence between Vick and Stallworth?

same question pavy, rebuttal?

you people are not saying shit about these guys that are still playing who killed a person just cause they aren't on sportscenters top plays. get off you fu(kin high horse and shut the fu(k up about vick

[katstale]

SBRJohn is right on this. Cruel irony here, IF Vick never gets caught and sent to Jail no one ever sees the awesome display he put on. He was not a dedicated "human/athlete" at that point and he has stated as such. The maturity level he has now, courtesy of attitude adjustment, makes him the most dangerous quarterback in the NFL to scheme against.

As an aside, he also just made some GM/Owner move Cam Newton up on his draft list. Cam should send Vick a very nice Xmas card and letter of thanks.

[Ralphie1412]

Most pit bulls have no use and are only fighters and cause terror Vick did nothing wrong in my eyes

One of the dumbest things you have ever said.....and you have said a lot of dumb shit.

[BigDaddy]

What he did was wrong and of course illegal. He didnt walk, he took the chain like the rest of us would have.

But unlike Tyson or the long list of guys who fell off the common sense wagon he did his time and came back commited to be the best he could be. Vick=All Pro? Who would have thunk it? Good for him...

agree

[pavyracer]

same question pavy, rebuttal?

you people are not saying shit about these guys that are still playing who killed a person just cause they aren't on sportscenters top plays. get off you fu(kin high horse and shut the fu(k up about vick

There is a difference in accidentally killing a human who crossed the street at 4:00 am while jaywalking and systematically bankrolling an operation of torturing and killing dogs. Cruelty to animals should be an automatic life sentence without parole.

[blackbeSSt]

There is a difference in accidentally killing a human who crossed the street at 4:00 am while jaywalking and systematically bankrolling an operation of torturing and killing dogs. Cruelty to animals should be an automatic life sentence without parole.

you missed the part where he was legally drunk.

and it was 7:15am and he was going 50mph in a 40 zone. granted the guy was jaywalking, it wasn't an accident.

he pled guilty to DUI and MANSLAUGHTER and only got 30 days in jail (of which he served 24).

so in your words:

animal cruelty=life in prison
manslaughter= 24 days in jail

[pavyracer]

you missed the part where he was legally drunk.

and it was 7:15am and he was going 50mph in a 40 zone. granted the guy was jaywalking, it wasn't an accident.

he pled guilty to DUI and MANSLAUGHTER and only got 30 days in jail (of which he served 24).

And you missed the part where his lawyers said he could have fought it and get acquitted based on the jaywalking evidence but chose to go to jail and pay the man's family a large amount of settlement.

[ngates815]

There is a difference in accidentally killing a human who crossed the street at 4:00 am while jaywalking and systematically bankrolling an operation of torturing and killing dogs. Cruelty to animals should be an automatic life sentence without parole.

Killing a pedestrian while driving drunk should be a slap on the wrist I guess, since you put the blame on the guy who is now dead, because he was getting off of work, working hard to provide for his family....

It'd be a shame to see one of your family members get killed by a drunk driver, because he/she ran out into the street to grab the dog that got off the chain in the yard. But just as long as the dog lives, that driver should get off with maybe suspended license, because the dog was not hurt in the accident.

[opie1988]

There is a difference in accidentally killing a human who crossed the street at 4:00 am while jaywalking and systematically bankrolling an operation of torturing and killing dogs. Cruelty to animals should be an automatic life sentence without parole.

That may be the single dumbest thing ever written.

[blackbeSSt]

And you missed the part where his lawyers said he could have fought it and get acquitted based on the jaywalking evidence but chose to go to jail and pay the man's family a large amount of settlement.

no way jaywalking trumps dui and manslaughter. i don't care what kinda lawyers you got.

[mdemps9190]

Yep....And where are all the people talking about Stallworth? He killed a HUMAN, which last I checked should be worse than torturing some dogs. But we don't hear about that every Ravens game, since he isn't in the spotlight. Fuckked up place we live in, where animals mean more than a mans life. I'm sorry but If I had to choose to have either my dog tortured or my uncle/father/grandpa Killed by a drunk driver after he got off work, i'd easily choose dog tortured. Who got the longer prison sentence between Vick and Stallworth?

I think Vick got screwed...Obviously what he did was bad but not 2 years in jail bad (or whatever it was). Either way he served his time...In regards to Stallworth, if you watch the camera footage (which I have) the guy who he hit literally jumped in front of Stallworth's car, and Stallworth stayed and called the police and was very responsible about it. Yes he was legally drunk, but let's be serious, that doesn't hold much ground since he is an NFL player and 2-3 beers clearly has no effect on his driving ability. I think his 30 day sentence was a joke, but he REALLY got screwed.

[mdemps9190]

And Pavy, cruelty to animals being a life sentence is retarded...Are you a vegan? If not then you are eating brutally slaughtered animals every day. YOU, along with 90% OF THE WORLD should have a life sentence then.

[Swinging Johnson]

I have mixed emotions about this as well. I have to believe ignorance played more of a role in his involvement than sheer inhumanity. But I wonder if we'd be giving him the benefit of the doubt if he went out and played lousy for the Eagles? Think about this for a moment. Would anyone have started this thread today if he had thrown 3 interceptions and no touchdowns? I can't imagine it but if indeed this thread was started, I have a feeling the responses would be very different.

[Swinging Johnson]

Pavy, you must be brutal to live with. You're the consummate contrarian. You're like a drama queen. Maybe that's why the chicks dig you, you're one of them.