Why is Bookmaker so afraid to put up CBB totals?

[RonPaul2008]

Both Pinnacle and Greek have them up for every game and they are not circled. Bookmaker has one.

[fsugolf]

at least they have one total up

[SlickFazzer]

they are afraid of RAS and Helmut and other sharps.

[EaglesPhan36]

Most recreational books don't have the balls early in the season to do this. It's not just Bookmaker. BetPhoenix, 5Dimes, etc. They're all afraid of getting beat early when the totals are hard to set because they don't know what to expect in some of these cupcake games. It's been this way the past two seasons I believe. I think it's gutless because they'd make more money than they'd lose just because of the amount of action they'd get from people like us who want action. I think once the preseason tournaments get kickin' they start putting up some slowly.

[Max009]

Most recreational books don't have the balls early in the season to do this. It's not just Bookmaker. BetPhoenix, 5Dimes, etc. They're all afraid of getting beat early when the totals are hard to set because they don't know what to expect in some of these cupcake games. It's been this way the past two seasons I believe. I think it's gutless because they'd make more money than they'd lose just because of the amount of action they'd get from people like us who want action. I think once the preseason tournaments get kickin' they start putting up some slowly.

FYI, for US players you can get the same lines Pinnacle has up on college basketball totals at Parlaymakers with pretty close to the same limits.

[pavyracer]

They are afraid of me obviously.

[durito]

Most recreational books don't have the balls early in the season to do this. It's not just Bookmaker. BetPhoenix, 5Dimes, etc. They're all afraid of getting beat early when the totals are hard to set because they don't know what to expect in some of these cupcake games. It's been this way the past two seasons I believe. I think it's gutless because they'd make more money than they'd lose just because of the amount of action they'd get from people like us who want action. I think once the preseason tournaments get kickin' they start putting up some slowly.

Bookmaker isn't a rec shop, they are supposed to be the ones originating these lines.

[Reload]

I think we should have JJ Gold give them a call regarding this.

[20Four7]

Last year for the first 5 weeks you were lucky to find any totals

[Bartmeister]

If books are worried about getting pounced on a number, they should just start the limits out very low early on.

[durito]

If books are worried about getting pounced on a number, they should just start the limits out very low early on.

pinny opened with $100 limits for half the day

[Doug]

pinny opened with $100 limits for half the day

at least they hung a number, gotta give them credit for that !

[BrianLaverty]

FYI, for US players you can get the same lines Pinnacle has up on college basketball totals at Parlaymakers with pretty close to the same limits.

Max, theres no way you can raise the limits above the 250 you have now?

[The Bet Master]

I noticed they are staying away from a lot of the moneylines as well.

[Max009]

Max, theres no way you can raise the limits above the 250 you have now?

I assume you are talking about totals for NCAABB. We got the same limits Pinnacle has generally speaking. Right now Pinnacle has $250 so we have $250. I think we will top out at about $800 as it moves toward game time.

[Frogger]

--There are a zillion games
--These totals move 10+ points if not more
--The only people betting these are the ones that know where the line is going

Seems like good enough reasons for me not to have them run the number. I assuming that CRIS got demolished on these last year. Anyone who wants to gamble on North Carolina & Michigan State, will always have a total on the bigger games, even at the beginning of the season. I really don't see this as an issue at all, and the only people complaining aren't really gamblers but just have some info and want to exploit sportsbooks.

When these nits are ready to step up and make a personal opinion play of their own, then I will listen to complaints.

[John Dough]

I really don't see this as an issue at all, and the only people complaining aren't really gamblers but just have some info and want to exploit sportsbooks.

If by "info" you mean "good handicapping skills" and by "aren't gamblers" you mean "are winners", then I agree.

[durito]

--There are a zillion games
--These totals move 10+ points if not more
--The only people betting these are the ones that know where the line is going

Seems like good enough reasons for me not to have them run the number. I assuming that CRIS got demolished on these last year. Anyone who wants to gamble on North Carolina & Michigan State, will always have a total on the bigger games, even at the beginning of the season. I really don't see this as an issue at all, and the only people complaining aren't really gamblers but just have some info and want to exploit sportsbooks.

When these nits are ready to step up and make a personal opinion play of their own, then I will listen to complaints.

But they've already moved 10pts at pinny and settled by the time greek copies em (so far these last few days). Bookmaker is really too scared at that point to copy them or what? They are going straight rec book.

[BigDaddy]

--There are a zillion games
--These totals move 10+ points if not more
--The only people betting these are the ones that know where the line is going

Seems like good enough reasons for me not to have them run the number. I assuming that CRIS got demolished on these last year. Anyone who wants to gamble on North Carolina & Michigan State, will always have a total on the bigger games, even at the beginning of the season. I really don't see this as an issue at all, and the only people complaining aren't really gamblers but just have some info and want to exploit sportsbooks.

When these nits are ready to step up and make a personal opinion play of their own, then I will listen to complaints.

what?

[Wilforth]

CBB o/u lines are easier to beat than o/u lines in other sports and that's why even books that put them up tend to impose very restricted limits on how much can be wagered on them.

[testudo]

What are your limits on totals currently?

[RonPaul2008]

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