Who is the best player to NEVER win a CHAMPIONSHIP??

BadNina · 02-21-08, 10:24 AM

Football I would say Marino

Willie Bee · 02-21-08, 10:24 AM

For baseball, just go down a list of Astros and Cubs, maybe toss in Mattingly with them.

Stumpage · 02-21-08, 10:25 AM

Baseball I'd have to say Ernie Banks for those that no longer play, and A-Rod among the active players.

MadCapper · 02-21-08, 10:26 AM

Forgetting Ted Williams?

ShamsWoof10 · 02-21-08, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by BadNina

Football I would say Marino

Nina is on top of me... I mean it...

Football I agree Marino..

Basketball Karl Malone...

I don't know enough history about Baseball, Hockey and Soccer to even guess...

Stumpage · 02-21-08, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by MadCapper

Forgetting Ted Williams?

Very, very good point, Madcapper.....It's just that Banks never even got to the post-season if I recall correctly. In fact, the Cubs never even came close to the playoffs until a few years late in his career. (Mind you, Williams only played in the World Series in '46). And while I know A-Rod has been in the playoffs consistently, I don't think he's ever actually been in the World Series.....

Willie Bee · 02-21-08, 10:43 AM

Teddy Ballgame is a good name for the list. And if you want to go back really deep into the baseball annals, you can throw in Nap Lajoie.

In fact, there are several Hall of Famers who never were on a team that won the big banana. Rod Carew is always underrated in my opinion. Earl Averill, hell, half of the people who consider themselves knowledgeable on baseball can't even tell you he's in the Hall of Fame. How about a couple of Giants, Willie McCovey and Barry Bonds?

Banks has always been a popular player in this category while a couple of this Chicago teammates are overlooked, Ron Santo and Billy Williams. I remember when the arguments about whether or not Nolan Ryan was Cooperstown worthy were at their peak, and people would shrug The Express off because he was 'barely a .500 pitcher.' They didn't have much to say once I reminded them that Banks was a .487 shortstop.

B1GER1C828 · 02-21-08, 10:59 AM

easily dan marino..easily

MadCapper · 02-21-08, 11:04 AM

Nap Lajoie was one of the best, if not the 2nd best behind only Hornsby, second baseman in the history of the sport.

bigboydan · 02-21-08, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by MadCapper

Ted Williams?

Kinda surprised he wasn't the first player mentioned in this thread actually **. Ted Williams was the best of any sport not to have won a ring bar none!

ShamsWoof10 · 02-21-08, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by MadCapper

Forgetting Ted Williams?

WHO DAT..???

Willie Bee · 02-21-08, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by MadCapper

Nap Lajoie was one of the best, if not the 2nd best behind only Hornsby, second baseman in the history of the sport.

You know he's the answer to a very famous trivia question: Who was the first player to be walked intentionally...with the bases loaded!

BadNina · 02-21-08, 11:37 AM

And I might say Mark Martin for the Winston/Nextel/Sprint Cup.

mofome · 02-21-08, 01:23 PM

NBA:
malone, barkley, or elgin baylor.

NFL:
Barry sanders

MLB:
Teddy.

slacker00 · 02-21-08, 01:25 PM

In the NFL, gotta say Marino, but Jim Kelly deserves a mention. Barry Sanders was great, but he played for the Lions. lmao. Junior Seau is still playing, but I don't think he'll get one. Seau dominated the NFL at LB for almost a decade until Ray Lewis came into the league.

In the NBA, Karl Malone. But, Charles Barkley deserves a mention. If it wasn't for a guy named Michael Jordan, these guys wouldn't have been shut out.

I'm too young to really know many players before the mid 1980's.

The Seer · 02-21-08, 01:27 PM

I have to say Marino when you compare him to how good he was at his sport..... not to say Sanders, Banks, and those guys weren't awesome but Marino set the standard for QBs.

mofome · 02-21-08, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

You know he's the answer to a very famous trivia question: Who was the first player to be walked intentionally...with the bases loaded!

he dont got shiat on mr ty cobb.

RageWizard · 02-21-08, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by BadNina

Football I would say Marino

I agree

Sportsgirl · 02-21-08, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by The Seer

I have to say Marino when you compare him to how good he was at his sport..... not to say Sanders, Banks, and those guys weren't awesome but Marino set the standard for QBs.

And, like all good things, he's from Pittsburgh

Glenn Danzig · 02-21-08, 04:07 PM

Does college football count in this thread?

Peyton Manning has to be the greatest college football player never to win the championship. He was always ass wipped by the Nebraska team I think?

mofome · 02-21-08, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by Glenn Danzig

Does college football count in this thread?

Peyton Manning has to be the greatest college football player never to win the championship. He was always ass wipped by the Nebraska team I think?

well florida was the team that kept him out of the titla games, but neb did pound the vols a couple times in bowl games.

RageWizard · 02-21-08, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Glenn Danzig

Does college football count in this thread?

Peyton Manning has to be the greatest college football player never to win the championship. He was always ass wipped by the Nebraska team I think?

He never beat Florida.

mofome · 02-21-08, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by RageWizard

He never beat Florida.

could we please change the subject.

BadNina · 02-21-08, 04:13 PM

Did Bo Jackson ever win a championship in anything?

swede96 · 02-21-08, 04:22 PM

Has Paul Pierce won one? I don't think so. If not, he's my pick. I lust him.

ShamsWoof10 · 02-21-08, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by swede96

Has Paul Pierce won one? I don't think so. If not, he's my pick. I lust him.

Oh GROSS!!! He's the second coming of DJ...

I'd bet anything "The Shrine" is better looking...

mofome · 02-21-08, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by swede96

Has Paul Pierce won one? I don't think so. If not, he's my pick. I lust him.

Paul Pierce? Thats not exactly a ringing endorsement for those you've called decent looking fellas on the board.

purecarnagge · 02-21-08, 07:07 PM

Dan Marino by far... name someone who comes close...

slacker00 · 02-21-08, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by swede96

Has Paul Pierce won one? I don't think so. If not, he's my pick. I lust him.

PP & KG are probably on the top of the list of current NBA players without rings. I hope they get theirs this year, this team seems pretty special.

seaborneq · 02-22-08, 08:09 AM

Barry Bonds, ARod, Randy Moss, TMac, JKidd, Marino, BSanders, Gary Sheffield, Nolan Ryan, Ryan Sandberg, Jim Kelley, Thurman Thomas, Jason Taylor, Yaz, and LT.

armyoflovers · 02-22-08, 08:22 AM

Anna Kournikova hands down....that ho was hot

Sportsgirl · 02-22-08, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by armyoflovers

Anna Kournikova hands down....that ho was hot

But I think the question was about being the best player at your sport and while Anna is beautiful, she was never a good enough tennis player to win a championship.

swede96 · 02-22-08, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

Oh GROSS!!! He's the second coming of DJ...

I'd bet anything "The Shrine" is better looking...

It's not all about looks....I just have a thing for the guy.

swede96 · 02-22-08, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by mofome

Paul Pierce? Thats not exactly a ringing endorsement for those you've called decent looking fellas on the board.

Why do you guys think he's so ugly? Racists.

KIDDING!

I have a thing for him...I can't help it. I'm nt saying he's the best looking guy out there...I just think he's a great player that's put a lot of work into the Celtics when he had no one else of value to help him out and for some odd reason, that makes me want to reward him in very naughty ways.

And I bet he's HUNG.