southern cal plus 7

[hoopster42]

missing a key starter but still getting 7 at home. i think s. cal is a decent play here against ucla

[2Pac]

Who's out?

USC is capable of playing great basketball, but they need all of their pieces.

[buztah]

Hackett is out.

[imgv94]

Not much of a road game for UCLA either. No traveling, crowd is quiet enough.

[buztah]

I've got this capped with UCLA winning by 6.

[hoopster42]

its not ucla's gym though, and i think that matters a lot in hoops

[2Pac]

I, personally, think UCLA is the most overrated team I've seen this year. Kevin Love fits on that team well (overrated).

[hoopster42]

I, personally, think UCLA is the most overrated team I've seen this year. Kevin Love fits on that team well (overrated).

k-love is definitely not overrated, and ucla made the past two final 4's, so i really don't know what sport you're watching to make a comment like this

[hoopster42]

oj mayo is totally overrated, not just because of this game but because of the whole season. he's a great talent but does not understand the fundamentals of the game

[2Pac]

oj mayo is totally overrated, not just because of this game but because of the whole season. he's a great talent but does not understand the fundamentals of the game

That is THE dumbest thing I've heard in a LONG time.

You obviously haven't seen him play a lot.

Tonight was the worst game he's had in a long, long time. He wasn't all there - his head wasn't on straight.

Ask any NBA scout though - he's a top 3 pick.

[WestsidePete]

he's a top 3 pick...but I thought and a lot others thought usc would be better than 15-9...and 6-6 in conference play?? hell, they were better last year

[hoopster42]

That is THE dumbest thing I've heard in a LONG time.

You obviously haven't seen him play a lot.

Tonight was the worst game he's had in a long, long time. He wasn't all there - his head wasn't on straight.

Ask any NBA scout though - he's a top 3 pick.

LOL youre right, OJ mayo is not overrated, but k-love and ucla are. thats actually the dumbest thing i've heard in a long time. and if mayo is a top 3 pick right now, it's only because there are no high schoolers allowed in the draft to drop his stock down, not because he is so great. his basketball fundamentals are very bad. terrible shot selection, weak defender, and i can go on.

[hoopster42]

That is THE dumbest thing I've heard in a LONG time.

You obviously haven't seen him play a lot.

Tonight was the worst game he's had in a long, long time. He wasn't all there - his head wasn't on straight.

Ask any NBA scout though - he's a top 3 pick.

LOL, playing his crosstown rival and he wasnt all there, his head was not on straight? good excuse. he got schooled by a good defensive team which is what happens to him in every big game. oj mayo can light it up against bad teams, but gets shut down against the good defensive teams. the nba scouts are watching this,

[2Pac]

LOL youre right, OJ mayo is not overrated, but k-love and ucla are. thats actually the dumbest thing i've heard in a long time. and if mayo is a top 3 pick right now, it's only because there are no high schoolers allowed in the draft to drop his stock down, not because he is so great. his basketball fundamentals are very bad. terrible shot selection, weak defender, and i can go on.

You're judging him from one game - a game that you bet on - and a game that you lost.

Biased.

Mayo a weak defender?
Basketball fundamentals "very bad"?

[WestsidePete]

2 straight final 4's..no way ucla overrated...memphis is...

love is averaging 17.5 pts 11.0 rebounds and shooting 60.8% from the field...as a freshman...how is he overrated??

[Quebb Diesel]

he puts up 20 a game in a defensive oriented pac 10...he cant be that overrated...he may be a top 3 pick right now but i wouldnt be surprised if he dropped lower than that...i could see gordon and rose going before mayo b/c of their proven abilities at their positions in college this year...

[The_Kid]

Kevin Love is overrated. He will not be a great NBA player. I don't care if he's fundamentally sound and all this other stuff. I don't care if he's averaging 20/10 a game in college. Since when did a great white big man in college do good in the pros?

Right now, I'd take potential in the form of Davon Jefferson over Kevin Love. The NBA game is more up tempo, more quicker, and more teams are playing small ball. Love will not be suited for that type of game, and so yes, I would take Jefferson over Love. What you see is what you get from him, and what you're going to get is at best a role player in the mold of Nick Collison.

Yes, UCLA is overrated. They shot less than 35% from the field, shot 15 more free throws than USC, and the Trojans committed 20+ turnovers, and you only win by 10. Oh, and we were w/o Daniel Hackett and Mayo played the worst game of his life.

Yes, Memphis is overrated too b/c they play in such a weak conference. No way they should be ranked # 1 in the polls. They got lucky the other day against UAB.

[composite]

Kevin Love is overrated. He will not be a great NBA player. I don't care if he's fundamentally sound and all this other stuff. I don't care if he's averaging 20/10 a game in college. Since when did a great white big man in college do good in the pros?

Right now, I'd take potential in the form of Davon Jefferson over Kevin Love. The NBA game is more up tempo, more quicker, and more teams are playing small ball. Love will not be suited for that type of game, and so yes, I would take Jefferson over Love. What you see is what you get from him, and what you're going to get is at best a role player in the mold of Nick Collison.

Yes, UCLA is overrated. They shot less than 35% from the field, shot 15 more free throws than USC, and the Trojans committed 20+ turnovers, and you only win by 10. Oh, and we were w/o Daniel Hackett and Mayo played the worst game of his life.

Yes, Memphis is overrated too b/c they play in such a weak conference. No way they should be ranked # 1 in the polls. They got lucky the other day against UAB.

ALL college basketball is overrated if you're trying to compare players with pro potential. It's simply a different game.

Tyler Hansborough may be POY but he'll be a 7ft scrub.

With that in mind, Love will make millions in the NBA but I don't think he'll ever be an all-star. But Brian Cook shows that big men in the NBA with outside range are a huge premium b/c they can force PFs to guard beyond the paint. And Love can develop the outside shot.

I loved the Bruins at 4.5. Less so at 7 though. Bruins didn't really well w/ Love and Mbah a Moute missing wide open (I mean wide, wide open) mid-range jumpers. Floyd's gimmicky box and 1 or triangle and 2 left massive gaps for midrange shots but Bruins kept missing. And, predictably the lack of depth really caught up for USC.

[jjgold]

I was not prepared as usual and had no clue usc guy was out, sharps won a ton on this game.

[WestsidePete]

Kevin Love is overrated. He will not be a great NBA player. I don't care if he's fundamentally sound and all this other stuff. I don't care if he's averaging 20/10 a game in college. Since when did a great white big man in college do good in the pros?

Right now, I'd take potential in the form of Davon Jefferson over Kevin Love. The NBA game is more up tempo, more quicker, and more teams are playing small ball. Love will not be suited for that type of game, and so yes, I would take Jefferson over Love. What you see is what you get from him, and what you're going to get is at best a role player in the mold of Nick Collison.

Yes, UCLA is overrated. They shot less than 35% from the field, shot 15 more free throws than USC, and the Trojans committed 20+ turnovers, and you only win by 10. Oh, and we were w/o Daniel Hackett and Mayo played the worst game of his life.

Yes, Memphis is overrated too b/c they play in such a weak conference. No way they should be ranked # 1 in the polls. They got lucky the other day against UAB.

UCLA played like crap and still won by 10....you're comparing Love to Collison?? not the same....your team has had Mayo and Hackett all year and is now only 6-6 in conference play...sorry, that doesn't cut it as USC was better last year...can't call any team that goes to 2 straight final 4 overrated...UCLA finds ways to win, that's all that matters..10-2 in conference play....if they are overrated then what is USC?? a lot of people thought they'd be up there with UCLA because of Mayo this year...UCLA RPI ranking #7 conference #2...solid

[hoopster42]

oj mayo played six yrs of high school ball and is 20 yrs of age but still he shows too much youth on the basketball court. these days freshmen play smarter than oj mayo does. the ucla game is just one of the gms i can think of where he has been shut down by a good defense. also his shot selection is terrible

[jjgold]

OJ might be the most overrated freshman in the country, he could not even make an nba roster next year

[hoopster42]

oj is prolly one of the most overrated freshman in a long time. i think he would get drafted in the lottery this year but not in the top 3. he would get drafted on potential, but not on his game right now. he is lacking in many areas

[WestsidePete]

OJ might be the most overrated freshman in the country, he could not even make an nba roster next year

now there's an overrated player ...he needs another year in college to get better

[jjgold]

OJ could not even start for any top 5 team in Country right now, he is an average college freshman that is all.

[The_Kid]

UCLA played like crap and still won by 10....you're comparing Love to Collison?? not the same....your team has had Mayo and Hackett all year and is now only 6-6 in conference play...sorry, that doesn't cut it as USC was better last year...can't call any team that goes to 2 straight final 4 overrated...UCLA finds ways to win, that's all that matters..10-2 in conference play....if they are overrated then what is USC?? a lot of people thought they'd be up there with UCLA because of Mayo this year...UCLA RPI ranking #7 conference #2...solid

Love won't do any better than what Collison is doing in the NBA. He's good in college because he's bigger than most opponents at the forward and center position. He's too slow for the NBA game, he's undersized for his position, and with the NBA playing at a much quicker pace nowadays, I just don't think he'll be a great pro. USC is a young team, and I'm not using that as an excuse, but if you saw the Memphis/Kansas games, then that is what they're capable of doing. We should easily have 4-5 more wins, but that's okay. Come tourney time, I guarantee not a lot of teams would want to face USC.

Yes, I do agree Mayo should stay another year in college. His decision-making is very questionable at times. He'll probably leave though b/c if you had a couple million waved in front of your face, anyone would take it over staying in college.

[The_Kid]

OJ might be the most overrated freshman in the country, he could not even make an nba roster next year

What are you talking about? Are you on crack?

So you're saying if he enters the draft, 30 teams will pass up on O.J. Mayo?

[The_Kid]

ALL college basketball is overrated if you're trying to compare players with pro potential. It's simply a different game.

Tyler Hansborough may be POY but he'll be a 7ft scrub.

With that in mind, Love will make millions in the NBA but I don't think he'll ever be an all-star. But Brian Cook shows that big men in the NBA with outside range are a huge premium b/c they can force PFs to guard beyond the paint. And Love can develop the outside shot.

I loved the Bruins at 4.5. Less so at 7 though. Bruins didn't really well w/ Love and Mbah a Moute missing wide open (I mean wide, wide open) mid-range jumpers. Floyd's gimmicky box and 1 or triangle and 2 left massive gaps for midrange shots but Bruins kept missing. And, predictably the lack of depth really caught up for USC.

Agree with the comments about Love and Hansborough.

At least someone sees my point of view...

[WileOut]

Kevin Mchale, Brad Miller, Vlade Divac, Pau Gasol, David Lee, Darco Milicic, Andrea Bargnani

[hoopster42]

tom chambers was pretty good

[WestsidePete]

Agree with the comments about Love and Hansborough.

At least someone sees my point of view...

Hansborough will be another Laetner..but Love ...you can't tell yet...it's only his freshman year...if he stays one more year he may develope more...

[mofome]

oj mayo is totally overrated

false.

[WestsidePete]

if anyone needs a second year in college it's mayo...he could easily be a top 5 pick...maybe better

would be interesting if he went pro...and the clippers took him...thornton/brand/mayo/kaman/maggette...not that bad a team next year if this were to happen...

[mofome]

if anyone needs a second year in college it's mayo...he could easily be a top 5 pick...maybe better

would be interesting if he went pro...and the clippers took him...thornton/brand/mayo/kaman/maggette...not that bad a team next year if this were to happen...

Love needs it more than Mayo imo. Mayo plays in an offense that looks like a fucking joke. The dude is ready for the league.

[WestsidePete]

I thought USC would be better...it does seem something is holding this team back...