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[DwightShrute]

INCORRECT.INCORRECT.INCORRECT.

Martin, everything you're saying is untrue. Either you are deliberately lying or you do not know how our government operates.

During the Reagan administrations, the democrats controlled congress. The president can't do any of the things you mentioned. Its congress that creates deficits along with everything else. The president can certainly stop most of the things that congress does but all the power in this country rests in the hands of congress.

In order to get things done, Reagan had to compromise with the democrats and I'm sure that included signing off on plenty of pork barrel spending that they insisted on. In return, the democrats allowed Reagan to defeat the Soviet Union and make the U.S. the strongest country in the world. In Reagan's mind, I'm sure he thought it was a trade off worth making:

Give the democrats the pork entitlement that they so desperately crave and in return they will allow the increases I want in defense spending to defeat Russia. Our country spent bucketloads of money on "Star Wars" and spent more money on the liberal democratic pork and hence massive deficits were created.

Barack Obama is NOT the one mainly responsible for our country's ballooning deficit. The blame is shared with Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid and the rest of the liberal democrats in congress that gave Obama everything he wanted.

Now that the republicans have a strong majority in the house, hopefully they will do what they did under Clinton and put a major freeze on all the wasteful spending. What concerns me is that the republicans might trade liberal pork for conservative pork as nobody seems to care about our country's ballooning deficit. However, in any case, things are much better today than they were last week.

thank you for the voice of reason once again.

why do people always put their foot in their mouths on this subject again and again?

[pavyracer]

Reagan took the US back 100 years and Clinton brought it back to modern times with George W Bush sending it back another 200 years. The only president worse than Reagan was George W Bush.

[DwightShrute]

How bout them Falcons Pavy?

[BettingWizard]

he spews the shit that he does because it makes him millions. The fact that his fans fail to see that is what is hilarious

[MartinBlank]

INCORRECT.INCORRECT.INCORRECT.

Martin, everything you're saying is untrue. Either you are deliberately lying or you do not know how our government operates.

During the Reagan administrations, the democrats controlled congress. The president can't do any of the things you mentioned. Its congress that creates deficits along with everything else. The president can certainly stop most of the things that congress does but all the power in this country rests in the hands of congress.

In order to get things done, Reagan had to compromise with the democrats and I'm sure that included signing off on plenty of pork barrel spending that they insisted on. In return, the democrats allowed Reagan to defeat the Soviet Union and make the U.S. the strongest country in the world. In Reagan's mind, I'm sure he thought it was a trade off worth making:

Give the democrats the pork entitlement that they so desperately crave and in return they will allow the increases I want in defense spending to defeat Russia. Our country spent bucketloads of money on "Star Wars" and spent more money on the liberal democratic pork and hence massive deficits were created.

Barack Obama is NOT the one mainly responsible for our country's ballooning deficit. The blame is shared with Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid and the rest of the liberal democrats in congress that gave Obama everything he wanted.

Now that the republicans have a strong majority in the house, hopefully they will do what they did under Clinton and put a major freeze on all the wasteful spending. What concerns me is that the republicans might trade liberal pork for conservative pork as nobody seems to care about our country's ballooning deficit. However, in any case, things are much better today than they were last week.

Andy....

How much are you willing to wager that everything I posted regarding Reagan is true?

How about a points wager-----if I do not prove what I posted was true---the loser will pay the other x number of points?

Deal?

[LordVodka]

Rush is a blowhard....But he's a true pioneer in talk radio......Gotta give him credit for that.....Guys like Savage, Levin, Hannity, etc. may not be around if it wasn't for Rush.

I don't listen to Rush, but I listen to Savage from time to time.

What the hell are you talking about? Before Rush and all of those morons there was Bob Graham. He paved the way. Not Rush.

[Andy117]

Give the democrats the pork entitlement that they so desperately crave and in return they will allow the increases I want in defense spending to defeat Russia. Our country spent bucketloads of money on "Star Wars" and spent more money on the liberal democratic pork and hence massive deficits were created.

Barack Obama is NOT the one mainly responsible for our country's ballooning deficit. The blame is shared with Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid and the rest of the liberal democrats in congress that gave Obama everything he wanted.

Now that the republicans have a strong majority in the house, hopefully they will do what they did under Clinton and put a major freeze on all the wasteful spending. What concerns me is that the republicans might trade liberal pork for conservative pork as nobody seems to care about our country's ballooning deficit. However, in any case, things are much better today than they were last week.

Are you saying that Star Wars was a liberal program? Can't say that I ever heard that.

You're right that Obama is not mainly responsible for our ballooning deficit, he shares the blame with Bush and his predecessors in the White House and the Congress from the last 20 or 30 years. Our deficit has consistently grown for decades now, to pin it on party or person solely is ridiculous.

Why if they are trading liberal pork for conservative pork would things really be any better today than they were last week? It's just more of the same coming from a different group of guys.

[craig4nr]

I'm firmly opposed to pretty much everything Rush stands for politically.

But being involved with the entertainment industry, I have a ton of respect for him. He knows how to run a talk show. he knows how to get people's attention. I can't hate on the guy too much.

[DwightShrute]

I'm firmly opposed to pretty much everything Rush stands for politically.

But being involved with the entertainment industry, I have a ton of respect for him. He knows how to run a talk show. he knows how to get people's attention. I can't hate on the guy too much.

well said and without name calling or reference to prescription drugs

I agree with everything except I agree with pretty much everything he stands for politically

[Naz18]

Dwight I hope your rich, if not your a fool.

[The Madcap]

Now this is a funny post.

And it goes to the lack of historical perspective many "conservatives" have.

Conservatives love them some Ronald Reagan. They tell us how Reagan preached small gov't, fewer taxes, and fiscal responsibility. The problem is----that is myth.

Ronald Reagan didn't shrink the federal government, instead he created three new federal agencies and 13K new federal jobs.

Obama didn't create any new federal agencies---but conservatives sell this idea that Obama wants the Federal Gov't to take over everything.

Here is the kicker though.

Reagan tripled the federal deficit in his time in office------and in the fall of 1987, the deficit under Reagan was at that time---historically---the largest federal deficit in the history of the world----not just the US---that is, it was the largest deficit a democratically elected gov't ever had.

Now---Obama is faced with record deficits----and suddenly conservatives are in an uproar over it----using catch words like "socialism" and "small gov't" to make their case.

This is all perception folks. 20 years ago----Conservatives worshiped a man who created the largest deficits in the history of the world------today, they want him impeached.

It's an election. It's always about perception. Politicians makes promises, the electorate votes on them. Sometimes they come through, sometimes they don't. This is how it works.

Obama said he'd do something about immigration reform. Hasn't done anything.

The GOP frequently panders to the evangelicals in their party, but they never give them anything. (Not on the Federal level anyway)

You think my post is funny, I think your post is funny. I simply make an assessment of the average American voter's current mindset, and you want to string bet it back two decades.

But since you brought up Reagan---when you look at deficit spending you might consider analyzing it in terms of a % of the GDP, as that is more representative of it's true significance than a simple raw number.

Say you're out drinking at a party with a large gathering of sorostitutes. And word on the street is that 8 of them have STD's. And that makes you a bit hesitant at first, but then you realize there are over 100 of these girls in attendance, so you figure why not? It's only an 8% chance. Now imagine the next week you find yourself at a similar party, and this time there are only 5 girls with STD's, that's almost 50% fewer than the 8 previous. But this time there are only 20 girls in total to choose from. An eight percent chance of getting an STD just jumped to twenty-five. 1 out of 4. Now you've got trouble.

Anyway, point is, ratios are how you make these types of comparisons, not raw numbers. Reagan's highest debt was about the same as JFK's, and about ten % less than Ike's---if you look at it as a ratio---which you should, otherwise it doesn't make sense. It'd be similar to not accounting for inflation.

Meanwhile Obama's debt is about double what Reagan's was.

You might also want to consider that Reagan's deficit spending actually accomplished something---as inflation dropped from about 12% to 4%, making the dollar stronger internationally believe it or not, and reducing unemployment by the end of his term to about 5%.

5% unemployment looks like a cosmically orgasmic Fantasy to the Obama Administration right now. If he could get those numbers I'm pretty sure he'd pimp his own wife out to Congress.

As for things Reagan doing being a myth----there's a lot he wanted to accomplish that simply wasn't politically feasible. He wanted to dismantle the Dept of Education and some other agencies. Certain climates made that impossible. Iran-Contra certainly didn't help, nor did the Dem's winning back Congress in '86. But Reagan did end the cold war (with help from Rocky Balboa of course), opened up parts of eastern Europe, and fostered the idea of world peace, even if through strength.

There will be much Obama wanted to accomplish that he never gets done. Many of his campaign promises are already falling flat. I doubt he will keep the Presidency. He's too unpopular and incompetent, and so it's the GOP's to lose--and they are certainly very capable of that no doubt--but unless Obama finds his inner Clinton (or Reagan--Ha), then the American people are not going to take another four years of his derisive pretentiousness.

[DwightShrute]

Dwight I hope your rich, if not your a fool.

Fool to you maybe but not to those I respect and who's opinions matter to me.

and BTW I was blessed and extremely rich with common sense

Naz18 , I wish you all the best and I hope you have a killer weekend hitting all your bets

[19th Hole]

Tons of fans. Just like Justin Beiber.

I agree. This Beiber kid is a cute teen-aged girl.

This Limbaugh appeals to the teen-age mentality.
I guess the more he hates the more the teens love him.

Good Luck To all!!

[jaythegreat]

rush is described as all problem and no solution