With Kidd, are the Mavs now a favorite in the west?

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  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #1
    With Kidd, are the Mavs now a favorite in the west?
    they've lost stack, harris, diop, george and perhaps ager.
  • Deuce
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 01-12-08
    • 29843

    #2
    No, the East will still win the title this year.
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    • rugbybdyb
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-06-07
      • 997

      #3
      The west has been very active in the last two weeks and I think that the NBA champ comes out of the west, San Antonio is going to have big issues now. And I do think this will help the Mavs and I think they will have a good shot at winning the west if Dirk can actually step up and play well.
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      • teazeman
        SBR Sharp
        • 12-27-07
        • 318

        #4
        not if he continues to dog the shit out of it............
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        • Munson15
          SBR High Roller
          • 12-24-07
          • 218

          #5
          Originally posted by mofome
          they've lost stack, harris, diop, george and perhaps ager.
          They really paid through the nose to get him, now the pressure is on Kidd and the team to win the title or the trade will be bashed.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            Not even close

            Dallas not even in the top 5 in the West
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            • mofome
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-19-07
              • 13003

              #7
              Originally posted by Munson15
              They really paid through the nose to get him, now the pressure is on Kidd and the team to win the title or the trade will be bashed.


              there giving up what they got for Antwan Jamison, in essence. just a few years later.
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              • Bill Dozer
                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                • 07-12-05
                • 10894

                #8
                It's anyone's guess right? Mavs, Lakers, Suns, Celts...its going to be about chemistry. If we learned anything from international hoops whooping the big NBA names, it's that what's on paper isn't most important. If the Spurs are healthy?
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                • MadCapper
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-27-08
                  • 4179

                  #9
                  Lakers are the favs IMO. Adding Gasol with giving up little. And Bynum will come back before the playoffs too.

                  Kidd helps. But how much better is he than Harris? Stackhouse was always good off the bench too.

                  Plus, they hampered their future.
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                  • Godzilla
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-12-08
                    • 558

                    #10
                    Stackhouse will be bought out and return to Dallas.

                    Kidd wont send Dallas over the top. Lakers, Spurs, Suns all too tough
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                    • The_Kid
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-09-08
                      • 5049

                      #11
                      No way. Kidd does not make the Mavs a title contender.

                      They still have a problem up front. They got rid of Diop. So, all they have is Dampier?

                      And please don't tell me Dirk is their big guy. He plays like a girl.

                      Agree with **. If Bynum can come back in game shape, then the Lakers are a force to be reckoned with!
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                      • rm18
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-20-05
                        • 22291

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The_Kid
                        No way. Kidd does not make the Mavs a title contender.

                        They still have a problem up front. They got rid of Diop. So, all they have is Dampier?

                        And please don't tell me Dirk is their big guy. He plays like a girl.

                        Agree with **. If Bynum can come back in game shape, then the Lakers are a force to be reckoned with!
                        Brandon Bass is pretty good
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                        • MadCapper
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-27-08
                          • 4179

                          #13
                          Their frontline vs LA???

                          Dirk, Dampier, Howard vs Gasol, Bynum, Odom?

                          Dallas will get DESTORYED on the boards.

                          Then you got Eddie Jones and Kidd vs KOBE and Fisher.

                          Then you have the Lakers bench which is head and shoulders better than Terry and the Mavs bench.

                          Then you have Phil Jackson vs Avery Johnson.
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                          • rm18
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-20-05
                            • 22291

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MadCapper
                            Their frontline vs LA???

                            Dirk, Dampier, Howard vs Gasol, Bynum, Odom?

                            Dallas will get DESTORYED on the boards.

                            Then you got Eddie Jones and Kidd vs KOBE and Fisher.

                            Then you have the Lakers bench which is head and shoulders better than Terry and the Mavs bench.

                            Then you have Phil Jackson vs Avery Johnson.


                            How will they get destroyed on the boards with Jason Kidd added on? And you are not factoring in defense, Dallas is way ahead of LA there.
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                            • The_Kid
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-09-08
                              • 5049

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rm18
                              Brandon Bass is pretty good
                              He's a hard worker. Too undersized playing the PF position.

                              Will get destroyed against the other bigs in the West.

                              Amare, TD, Gasol, Boozer...
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                              • rm18
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-20-05
                                • 22291

                                #16
                                I am surprised they got rid of Diop though, they probably needed him to make salaries match though
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                                • purecarnagge
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-05-07
                                  • 4843

                                  #17
                                  kidd doesn't play defense and he doesn't shoot the 3 all that well, so what does he really give this team that they didn't already have?

                                  He already came through dallas once, come by twice?
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                                  • The_Kid
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-09-08
                                    • 5049

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by purecarnagge
                                    kidd doesn't play defense and he doesn't shoot the 3 all that well, so what does he really give this team that they didn't already have?

                                    He already came through dallas once, come by twice?
                                    It will allow JT to move to the shooting guard (more natural position) and I don't know what else...

                                    You are right though. Kidd can't shoot for squat.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Kidd is a cancer on any team he plays on
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                                      • Panic
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-06-08
                                        • 10367

                                        #20
                                        I'm sorry, what? The Mavs didnt even have to give up any of their core and some people think it was a bad trade? The Mavs kept Nowitzki, Howard, and Terry. That is their core of 3. If the Lakers could have gotten Kidd without giving up Bryant, Odom, and Bynum(before getting Gasol), you dont think they would have pulled the trigger? C'mon. This is a great deal for the Mavs.
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                                        • Junkyard Dog
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-12-07
                                          • 4552

                                          #21
                                          horrible horrible trade for the mavs. kidd is washed up and cant hit a shot if his life depended on it. and they give up 2 first round picks also, wow they really overreacted to the other moves in the western conference.
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                                          • teazeman
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-27-07
                                            • 318

                                            #22
                                            after looking at the full details of this trade cuban may have hurt his team for the next decade or so, this is a good example of why owners shouldn't make decisions concerning personell.
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                                            • MadCapper
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-27-08
                                              • 4179

                                              #23
                                              Harris was more of the core than Terry.
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                                              • Panic
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-06-08
                                                • 10367

                                                #24
                                                Cuban will have 21.3 million coming off the books after the 2008-2009 season with Kidd. If this doesn't work in the next two years, Cuban has a huge amount of money to spend on a premeir free agent. Great trade for the Mavs. There is no way this kills their future with Kidd coming off the books in 2 years and freeing up that kind of salary cap for them.
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                                                • Panic
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-06-08
                                                  • 10367

                                                  #25
                                                  LOL. Devean George just blocked the trade. Its gonna get ugly in Dallas now. Wonder what Cuban will do about George now.
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                                                  • teazeman
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-27-07
                                                    • 318

                                                    #26
                                                    gonna have to pay him.......
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                                                    • twtb19
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-08-07
                                                      • 553

                                                      #27
                                                      Apparently George blocked the trade per his contract agreement. Here is the link from espn.com

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                                                      • stump
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-14-05
                                                        • 1715

                                                        #28
                                                        nope, not even close
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388179

                                                          #29
                                                          Smart move by George
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