PAGS: Open invitation for a challenge

[BuddyBear]

What did doc do wrong? He threw out a challenge. No biggie.

He is acting like a jerk to one of the top posters and cappers around....

I act like a jerk sometimes but that is general and not toward anyone in particular like when OSU beat ND in the Fiesta Bowl...i had my fun but this is ridiculous.

[raiders72001]

Slacker- Pros hit between 54% and 55%. Anyone can hit 60% short term but if you can hit 55% long term then there's no use having any other job than professional gambler.

For what it's worth, Doc knows his shit numbers wise.

[natrass]

Have to say, whether pags is a good capper or not has absolutely nothing to do with whether pags is the kind of person who wants to bet $000s with a guy on the internet.

To be a good capper you also have to do this?

[raiders72001]

You don't think Pags can pick 53.3%, raiders? Is 53.3% really that tough? I'm just trying to educate myself here.

There's only a handful of people on this board that can do it using one book.

[raiders72001]

natrass- I agree but why didn't he just say I'll pass.

[raiders72001]

Someone show me a quote from something that Doc said wrong?

Also when Doc and Pags were arguing about the value of a "7" in college football Doc was right.

[raiders72001]

Use this interactive program to see the odds of hitting each percentage. Poisson Distribution

[slacker00]

Have to say, whether pags is a good capper or not has absolutely nothing to do with whether pags is the kind of person who wants to bet $000s with a guy on the internet.

To be a good capper you also have to do this?

I completely agree. I mean, what if Doc said the stakes were 3 million that nobody could hit 49%. Nobody could take those stakes. Does that mean nobody in here can hit 49%? FWIW, I couldn't take a 3k challenge needing to hit 40% unless somone staked me.


Thanks for the response, raiders. I don't know much about Doc being good with numbers, except me being in agreement that the hook on a 7 probably is worth about 12 cents in college football. As for the hook on the 7 being worthless in the USC game in particular, Pags was 100% right in that prediction.

[BuddyBear]

Raiders this is all your fault...you've created this atmosphere on SBR where posters hurl insults at each other and its acceptable...first you did it with Mudcat, then Taco and Quarm, and then Bill Dozer and now you are instigating this shit.....I can't believe Pags would even take the time to reply to this nonsense.

Radiers just do what you do best and post gaming theory/sportsbook stuff please!

[raiders72001]

Buddy Bear- That's the problem with you and a lot of society. No one takes responsibility for themselves. It's always someone elses fault.

If you go back to ALL the guys I jumped on it's because they started on me. I came here and said some good things about JJ and some idiots jumped on me so I fired back.

[raiders72001]

Quarm,Taco, Mudcat and Dave all started shit with me. Tons of guuys on these boards are frauds. Most of them I just let go but if they start I'll expose them.

[slacker00]

LMFAO. raiders is left holding the bag! woot!

watchout! raiders killed Kennedy, you bastard!!!!

Nothing wrong with a little good natured ribbing here and there.

[raiders72001]

LMAO

[imgv94]

taco and quarm started on me also.

[raiders72001]

Yes they did and they were the first two to jump on me.

[imgv94]

I will tell you guys one thing. Guys like raiders and myself make this forum
more entertaining..

[pags11]

alright, I'm finally off of work...

let me first say that this is a great thread...whether or not I am getting slammed in this thing, it's a thread that has inspired great emotion and discussion...I can appreciate that...

dickdock,

I will not accept a challenge for $3000 with you...I don't know you, I don't know if you are legit...I could hit 55% and could never hear from you again...I'm not willing to take any chances, which is why avatar challenges and things like that are more acceptable to me because my risk is much smaller...I have a policy to bet $ only with the books...I'm still chasing down my old local for $1000 because we had a handshake deal and I got screwed...I can tell you that now that I have read this challenge, it's more fair than your previous challenge in terms of the logistics...still though, I can't respect that you don't want to make any picks yourself...if you are going to come at me about my handicapping abilities, you should have some skills of your own to back up your talk...I haven't seen one post of yours with picks on here or any other forum...

slacker hit it right on the head in terms of the previous thread regarding the Texas vs. USC game...I made comment to SBR John that with this particular game, I didn't think it would smart to by the hook and pay the extra 12 cents in juice (sticking with Texas +7 at -105, rather than taking Texas +7.5 at -117), as my intuition told me that I thought it wouldn't come into play with the game...Texas was down 5 late, and eventually one, with the game never hanging on 7...dickdock likes to smokescreen the situation and change what I said around...I am smart enough and experienced enough to know that usually buying the hook off of 7 will cost you between .12 and .15...

raiders, that's up to you if you think I can't hit 53%, but my previous track record here should prove otherwise...I've got no beef with you...dickdock does seem to be educated on the industry and what is considered good, I don't argue that...he lacks the ability to "do" though, which I have...

magnavox,

as I've said before, if you enjoy attempting to torment me, that's fine...it really doesn't bother me, as your opinion weighs little to me...I've never read one pick or thought regarding an actual game...until you do so, my opinion on you remains the same...a guy pretty well educated on the industry who got mad at him 'cause I called him RCA, so you lurk in every thread waiting to make a comment against me...

tacomax,

you are right, I didn't respond immediately to this thread because I was at work...as I stated before, I would consider myself a recreational player...I think being a pro gambler is tough, I've tried it before...it's a tough way to live...I've been better at capping this way...


OK, I'm going to go back to following my three picks tonight (LMU, Pepperdine and St. Mary's)...GL to everyone...whoever wants to hate or fade, do so...but you will respect my picks...it's just a matter of time...

[pags11]

btw buddy, I appreciate the kind words...we've helped eachother...thanks bro...

[slacker00]

Well done, pags. You don't have to answer to any of these guys, but you did anyway. 100% class in my book! Plus lots of extra cash in my sportsbook account thanks to your picks tonight!

[raiders72001]

I agree. Good post Pags. That 53% that I'm talking about has nothing to do with you. All I'm talking about is math.

[pags11]

slacker,

thanks bro..how about LMU kicking some ass right now?!...let's keep working together my friend...

[docdekay]

Pags

Do you trust John? How about Bill Dozer? How about Lakerfan? Any of the employees here? We can send our money to one of them.

If that's the only obstacle to the challenge I'm sure we can find a respectable solution.

I surely dont expect you to you to send your money my way if that's what you're thinking. We can have a third party hold the funds.

You mentioned I dont have the ability to "do." Well, I dont know what more you want? I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is. How much more initiative do you want me to take?

I never claimed to be a handicapper. You did. Not only are you a handicapper, but you're a good one. I'm willing to bet otherwise.

I'm a bettor. Big difference.

Let me know.

[BuddyBear]

great job Pags...you really showed him

[pags11]

dickdock,

yes, I do trust those guys...it's just a personal policy of mine...nothing personal dude...your bankroll won't get you respect around here, especially when you don't have any picks to make it grow...I respectfully decline the offer in terms of money...

buddy,

thanks man...

[imgv94]

[pags11]

imgv,

if you would send me up one of these chicks from So. Cal, I'd greatly appreciate it...lol...

[natrass]

docdekay ... I think pags is saying he is happy betting with his chosen books. Why would anyone want to risk $000s against a guy on the internet and then have all the limitations of when and how often you bet, what lines you can or cant take and how often you bet, etc?

Personally, id have thought that was common sense?

[docdekay]

docdekay ... I think pags is saying he is happy betting with his chosen books. Why would anyone want to risk $000s against a guy on the internet and then have all the limitations of when and how often you bet, what lines you can or cant take and how often you bet, etc?

Personally, id have thought that was common sense?

Because any schmuck (including me) can beat Non - widely available numbers. You think raiders is an idiot? Or dont you think he realized the same thing and declined.

Someone who prides himself as being a handicapper should be able to do better than breakeven playing into a consensus number.

Bettor and handicapper are two very different things.

Anyway, this thread is dead.

Good luck, pags (i'm seriously not trying to be sarcastic either).

[pags11]

GL to you as well...

[quarm_]

taco and quarm started on me also.

everyone with a brain on this forum knows who starts the shit all the time, raiders doesnt even respect bill dozer that says it all.
Why is he even using this forum?

And you imgv you came here with a even bigger asshole attitude, and to no surprise you cant stop with the shit even after the fairy tale in the private forum where i wished you GL.
I know why YOU use this forum thou, you get the attention you are whoring for - the green lights say it all, after all this forum is full of kids who are impressed by a guy on a lucky streak.

[raiders72001]

I don't respect Dozer. LMAO So if I don't agree with Dozer 100% of the time that means I don't respect him. I respect every employee at SBR except for Dave. If Dave wants to correct his mistake then I may respect him.

The other three people I don't respect are Taco, Quarm and Mudcat. Mudcat's a little shady. Taco and Quarm are just assholes.

[raiders72001]

Quarm- Small time, you want to make a wager on what we talked about in private? I know you don't as you can never back your statements. Money talks, Quarm walks.

[tacomax]

Taco and Quarm are just assholes.

What happened to that truce you requested?

Looks like you're a perpetual liar who continually likes to start shit with people.

[raiders72001]

Taco- You are correct. I did request a truce and I'm sorry.

I also requested a truce with that fraud Dave a while back and he said no so that he could rig the rep points.

[raiders72001]

Raiders:

Assclown Dave- I'm willing to call a truce under the following conditions.

1. You admit that the rep points are rigged. Not that I really care about my points.

2. You admit that posts have been deleted.

Balls in your court.
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Assclown Dave says:

Why would I want a truce? What do you have to offer me? Do you really think I care what you post about me? Say what you want, do what you want, I dont care. There wont be a truce, I like all the free publicity. If it weren't for you most people wouldnt even know I work for SBR. Keep up the great work Raiders!!