How did Cliff Lee get so good the last 3 years?

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  • dynamite140
    SBR MVP
    • 07-05-08
    • 4958

    #1
    How did Cliff Lee get so good the last 3 years?
    First 7 years in cleveland where no one knew who this guy was. The announcers even said he got sent to the minor leagues. I know some pitchers start out bad when they hit the majors because they are young but usually after a couple of seasons, they usually will break out. But can someone explain why it took Lee this many years to get so good? He had that phenomenal breakout year in Cleveland in 2008 where he went 22-3. Then the following year did so well with the Phillies and now pitching so dominant in the playoffs just like last year. I checked his regular season numbers the last 2 years and even though they aren't the best like a few other players, how is this guy so good in the postseason?

    Yes he has a 12-9 record this year when he went 8-3 with the Mariners and was actually 4-6 with the Rangers. He went 7-9 with the Indians and 7-4 with the Phillies back in 2009 but we saw how he was in the postseason. But how is this guy such in the zone in the postseason? He isn't that good like a few other pitchers in the regular season besides that 22-3 year but I think this guy is better than Halladay if you want a game 7 pitcher.
  • Maverick11
    SBR MVP
    • 09-21-10
    • 1109

    #2
    Cliff Lee is a stud

    Not sure why he gets traded every year...he is top 3 best pitchers in the league.
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    • nulldah
      SBR MVP
      • 01-27-10
      • 1473

      #3
      Talent is the only thing I can try to explain. I'm not talking talent of pitching itself, but talent of "enjoying" full-pressure-playoff atmosphere. Some guys are just made for this. Or should I say few, or what, 1 in thousand, or million?
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      • rem sleep
        SBR MVP
        • 10-04-10
        • 1238

        #4
        Originally posted by Maverick11
        Not sure why he gets traded every year...he is top 3 best pitchers in the league.
        he got traded to texas cuz Seattle knew they couldnt afford to pay him and he is gonna be a free agent this off season. i really hope he resigns with texas.
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        • Maverick11
          SBR MVP
          • 09-21-10
          • 1109

          #5
          Phillies should have never traded him though....I understand Seattle not paying him cuz they suck.
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          • Sawyer
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-01-09
            • 7794

            #6
            115 Pitches and still pitching, Wow!

            Cliff Lee!!

            12 Strikeouts!
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            • Sawyer
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-01-09
              • 7794

              #7
              120+ Pitches and 13 Strikeouts, Wow!
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              • Puda
                SBR MVP
                • 03-26-10
                • 1798

                #8
                he's on JUICE!!













                Apple Juice.
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                • ShowMeDaMoney
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-04-07
                  • 1056

                  #9
                  he will finish it himself...
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                  • Capybara
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-17-08
                    • 11803

                    #10
                    All hail Cliff Lee! (He better come out for the NINTH!!!!!!!)

                    One of the greatest performances I've ever seen. This guy is now an all-time Top 5 Postseason Pitcher ever. All he's done is dominate.

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                    • shermanator
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-27-10
                      • 510

                      #11
                      yeah hope he comes out and won't allow a run. I got rangers RL
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                      • stealthyburrito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-12-09
                        • 21563

                        #12
                        good work by lee, under for me.
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                        • Capybara
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-17-08
                          • 11803

                          #13
                          Every Ranger fan and backer (and every Yankee hater) is PRAYING that Washington not overthink things and bring out that kid closer....

                          Lee looks like just fine, he is throwin' easy!
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                          • Capybara
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-17-08
                            • 11803

                            #14
                            Man, Lee is sitting a long time now... crap....

                            Still, Ron Washington would get buried alive if he took Lee out.... you can't hand it over to an emotional young kid at Yankee Stadium. Can't do it.
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                            • Pauulzcappin
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-23-10
                              • 20295

                              #15
                              don't worry red sox fan, rangers got this
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                              • Capybara
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-17-08
                                • 11803

                                #16
                                Wow, I'm starting to wonder now.... If Rangers add on, maybe Felice comes in...

                                CRAP, the under is in jeopardy all of a sudden!!!!
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                                • Pauulzcappin
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-23-10
                                  • 20295

                                  #17
                                  under is crap now, rangers win 8-0.
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                                  • Sawyer
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-01-09
                                    • 7794

                                    #18
                                    In Cliff Lee We Trust!
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                                    • Jimmy Proffett
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-20-09
                                      • 2730

                                      #19
                                      He's up to 122 pitches. I hope they keep him in too but don't trust Washington.
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                                      • Capybara
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 08-17-08
                                        • 11803

                                        #20
                                        FUUUKKK!!!!!!!!!!

                                        Can't believe our under bets are gonna be TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                        • shermanator
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-27-10
                                          • 510

                                          #21
                                          wow the over actually covers.
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                                          • Pauulzcappin
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-23-10
                                            • 20295

                                            #22
                                            Told you it would be 8-0
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                                            • nosniboR11
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-02-08
                                              • 10042

                                              #23
                                              nice call paul
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                                              • mikejamm
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-24-09
                                                • 11066

                                                #24
                                                Fuk yeah! Over is money baby! And hit the ML against the Stankees!
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                                                • anthonydiamondLC
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-02-08
                                                  • 2296

                                                  #25
                                                  Cliff Lee is the best Postseason pitcher ever

                                                  7-0 1.26 era
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                                                  • t-wizzle
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 12-18-09
                                                    • 38099

                                                    #26
                                                    Cliff Lee was excellent in 2005, that's when it really all started. He wasn't as good the next season and had some huge setbacks in '07, but came back stronger than ever in 2008 and has been great ever since. The guy simply knows how to pitch, simple as that. Sure, every once and a while he hits 93-94 on the gun, but for the most part he relies on location and movement.
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                                                    • Ace_of_Spades
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-14-09
                                                      • 13518

                                                      #27
                                                      Quite impressive. Mets please sign him. Do whatever to get him.
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                                                      • anthonydiamondLC
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-02-08
                                                        • 2296

                                                        #28
                                                        I'm a huge Mets fan and there is not a shot in hell they get him. He would not come to our shit box of a team right now.
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                                                        • Capybara
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-17-08
                                                          • 11803

                                                          #29
                                                          Absolute freak. Best I've ever seen.

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                                                          • Mikail
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-19-09
                                                            • 21689

                                                            #30
                                                            I can't make an argument against that statement. Never saw anyone dominate like him.
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                                                            • l7ustin
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-09-08
                                                              • 3914

                                                              #31
                                                              he lives in arkansas, if the money is close he will stay with texas, hed probably take a little less but as long as they dont totally scrooge him hell be back in Texas
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                                                              • Capybara
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 08-17-08
                                                                • 11803

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by l7ustin
                                                                he lives in arkansas, if the money is close he will stay with texas, hed probably take a little less but as long as they dont totally scrooge him hell be back in Texas
                                                                That would be so awesome... Would be so f'n horrible to see him just go the Yankees... Keep. This. Guy.
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                                                                • empty cookie jar
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 05-14-10
                                                                  • 876

                                                                  #33
                                                                  that dang ole cliff lee
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                                                                  • Pauulzcappin
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-23-10
                                                                    • 20295

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by empty cookie jar
                                                                    that dang ole cliff lee
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                                                                    • LiarGame
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-05-10
                                                                      • 565

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Nice call on Tex backers. Was on the Yanks and got burned by Cliff Lee.
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