stopped by a LEROYS kiosk... OHIO STATE has future value at +450 BCS

big0mar · 09-27-10, 10:09 PM

sportsbook +300 should tell you everything you need to know

Sean81 · 09-27-10, 10:48 PM

Not bad, they have by far the easiest road to title game. I might jump on Stanford if they get past Oregon this weekend.

FrozenMAN · 09-27-10, 11:03 PM

Not after the illini take them out this weekend!

chrisharvard01 · 10-05-10, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by FrozenMAN

Not after the illini take them out this weekend!

that actually almost happened!

Odds still have not spiked for the BUCS, as the line remains unchanged this week offshore. I think the WISC loss to MICH ST hurts OSUs bid for the BCS, as well MICH squeaking by INDIANA.

This is because if OSU goes undefeated and routs both WISCONSIN and MICHIGAN to end the season it wont be a big deal. At this point, I'd be looking for better money for OSU. Something like +750.

As OREGON defeats STANFORD, it makes me wonder who can beat the DUCKS?

ARIZONA?--because thats pretty much all the competition that is left for them barring some kind of huge upset by UCLA, USC, or CAL.

It may be OREGON v ALABAMA for the BCS.

Off topic, I am large on NYY for game 1 in Minnesota.

I dont know who wins this series, but I do know CC is the hottest in baseball. TWINS will really have to hit well to make up for pitching handicap (LIRIANO 14-10) and I dont think they will.

Yankees are 6-1 in the last 7 meetings in Minnesota
Yankees are 54-18 in the last 72 meetings
Twins are 0-4 in Lirianos last 4 starts vs. Yankees

Since this thread is all about value- I find it fitting to play such a gem price against a not-so gem pitching staff, who is without their star first baseman.

NYY -135

3PtShooter · 10-05-10, 05:18 AM

good thoughts

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by chrisharvard01

Wow, what a great deal!!!

I think the time is right for OHIO STATE to get the nod for this year's BCS.

Best contenders are BOISE ST, OREGON, and the favorite ALABAMA. I can't really see BAMA not going unless somehow they get upset by FLORIDA this week. ARKANSAS kissed there chances goodbye failing to put the Tide away last week.

I hope the VA TECH loss to MADISON hurts BOISE ST enough to keep them out of the BCS.

OSU should handle PENN ST with a dd win and their main worry should be the WISCONSIN road game, and as long as WISC puts a whipping on MICH ST this week (which they will) that win will give OSU some bit of creditbility when they hand WISC its only loss of the season.

OSU should get past MICHIGAN fairly easy to end the regular season. Add downing MIAMI, the bucs destroying ILL this week, a team that nearly upset MIZZO and OHIO STATE has a decent looking resume.

OHIO STATE +450 TO WIN BCS

comparing:
sportsbook +300
greek +500
5dimes ???

WRONG

They play AT IOWA .......a much tougher opponent than WISKY.

BrentCrude · 10-05-10, 06:50 AM

Anyone ever invest in Leroy's parent company as far as buying stock is concerned,it's pretty cheap on the OTC market I think.Forgot the symbol right off hand.Maybe with all the states going broke and being cash strapped,someday sportsbetting kiosks will be common place.Maybe Leroy's will become the ** Donald's or Wal Mart of sportsbooks?

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by BrentCrude

Anyone ever invest in Leroy's parent company as far as buying stock is concerned,it's pretty cheap on the OTC market I think.Forgot the symbol right off hand.Maybe with all the states going broke and being cash strapped,someday sportsbetting kiosks will be common place.Maybe Leroy's will become the ** Donald's or Wal Mart of sportsbooks?

HARDLY

goucla · 10-05-10, 07:09 AM

i agree that they will quite possibly make the championship, but I think they got DOMINATED but whatever top team they play against

daneblazer · 10-05-10, 07:15 AM

You could see about 5-6 teams run the table this year and be undefeated. TCU, Boise, Alabama, OU/Nebraska, Oregon, Ohio State....what a mess

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by daneblazer

You could see about 5-6 teams run the table this year and be undefeated. TCU, Boise, Alabama, OU/Nebraska, Oregon, Ohio State....what a mess

Don't count on that

.....and by the way, you should put BOISE ST in as an entry with NEVADA as you did with OU/NEB.

What if, AND THIS IS A HUGE WHAT IF, a team like FLORIDA or IOWA runs the table from here and has only one loss?????..............keeping in mind that both will be defeating major competition if they do run the table............if they do, think both could pass TCU and BOISE in the BCS rankings with their one loss. But again, doubt either will run the table, just sayin. Both would have huge wins late, FLORIDA in the SEC title game, and IOWA over possibly #2 ranked Ohio State.

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 07:34 AM

Is this +450 figure being quoted in this thread just to get to the FINAL, or to win the whole thing?????

newguy · 10-05-10, 07:37 AM

I have a feeling boise st will play florida in a bcs game (not championship). I think florida loses to bama again in sec champ but its close. I then see florida throttling bsu. Not because bsu isnt good but meyer will have his team more prepared than any opponent bsu has faced recently. Dont think osu has horses to run table and win bcs unless a bama and ducks both fall out.

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by newguy

I have a feeling boise st will play florida in a bcs game (not championship). I think florida loses to bama again in sec champ but its close. I then see florida throttling bsu. Not because bsu isnt good but meyer will have his team more prepared than any opponent bsu has faced recently. Dont think osu has horses to run table and win bcs unless a bama and ducks both fall out.

Florida is not even a TOP 15 team currently..............

dwaechte · 10-05-10, 07:48 AM

No way this has value. Doubt they are any better than 50% once they get to the title game, and getting there is no easy feat with so many potential stumbling blocks along the way.

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by dwaechte

No way this has value. Doubt they are any better than 50% once they get to the title game, and getting there is no easy feat with so many potential stumbling blocks along the way.

Again, I ask the question, is this to reach the final or win the whole thing.......I'm fairly certain it is to win the whole thing.

If so, +450 is HORRIBLE odds.

dwaechte · 10-05-10, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Again, I ask the question, is this to reach the final or win the whole thing.......I'm fairly certain it is to win the whole thing.

If so, +450 is HORRIBLE odds.

From the original post the guy is definitely going with +450 to actually WIN the title game. Alabama could get DQ'ed from the BCS tomorrow and this would still be a bad bet.

I think we should stick with Durant for MVP at +190 Fishhead

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by dwaechte

From the original post the guy is definitely going with +450 to actually WIN the title game. Alabama could get DQ'ed from the BCS tomorrow and this would still be a bad bet.

I think we should stick with Durant for MVP at +190 Fishhead

No kidding........LOL

bruceBRUCEbruce · 10-05-10, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

I'm fairly certain it is to win the whole thing.

If so, +450 is HORRIBLE odds.

my first thoughts as well.

newguy · 10-05-10, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Florida is not even a TOP 15 team currently..............

I know - I read your diatribe in the other thread about how upset you were that UF was a top 15 team yada yada. I think we both know that come the end of the season, there will only be a handful of teams that UF will lose to on a neutral field. The second best team in the SEC is better than the best team in almost any other conference. I will say without qualms that Arkansas would win the Big 11 or Big 12 this year, and they will be lucky to be the 4th best team in the SEC.

Unfortunately for you, the 65 writers who vote in the AP Poll, and the 59 coaches who vote in the coaches poll all see something in Florida you don't. So while you may not feel they are a top-15 - people SIGNIFICANTLY more qualified than you think they are. (Full Disclosure - I am a UF alum so clearly this is a biased opinion)

Back on topic here though - I don't see a ton of value in OSU right now - but they have been putting up some good numbers, and the Big 11 is the weak conference it normally is, so assuming they make it, you just have to figure out which is better odds, the +450 now when they have a ton of obstacles in their way still, or the BCS Champ ML which will be probably between +250 and +300 based on who they play. Not sure that extra +200 is worth it now.....but thats my two cents......if they go into the BCS as a favorite for some reason - you can take the other ML and guarantee yourself + money.....

BoL either way!!

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by newguy

I know - I read your diatribe in the other thread about how upset you were that UF was a top 15 team yada yada. I think we both know that come the end of the season, there will only be a handful of teams that UF will lose to on a neutral field. The second best team in the SEC is better than the best team in almost any other conference. I will say without qualms that Arkansas would win the Big 11 or Big 12 this year, and they will be lucky to be the 4th best team in the SEC.

Unfortunately for you, the 65 writers who vote in the AP Poll, and the 59 coaches who vote in the coaches poll all see something in Florida you don't. So while you may not feel they are a top-15 - people SIGNIFICANTLY more qualified than you think they are. (Full Disclosure - I am a UF alum so clearly this is a biased opinion)

Back on topic here though - I don't see a ton of value in OSU right now - but they have been putting up some good numbers, and the Big 11 is the weak conference it normally is, so assuming they make it, you just have to figure out which is better odds, the +450 now when they have a ton of obstacles in their way still, or the BCS Champ ML which will be probably between +250 and +300 based on who they play. Not sure that extra +200 is worth it now.....but thats my two cents......if they go into the BCS as a favorite for some reason - you can take the other ML and guarantee yourself + money.....

BoL either way!!

You can't be serious.................

daneblazer · 10-05-10, 09:30 AM

Fishhead wears special sunglasses that block out all the colors except for black and gold.

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by daneblazer

Fishhead wears special sunglasses that block out all the colors except for black and gold.

Why do you say this????

I don't have IOWA in my TOP 15 at the PRESENT TIME .............yet they are ranked that in both the COACHES and AP POLLS and more then one voter in these polls has them in their top ten.

Why so many keep bringing IOWA into this Florida conversation is meaningless.

The fact is, at the PRESENT TIME, Florida has not shown they are a TOP 15 team, let alone TOP 10.

Will they be 3-5 weeks, QUITE POSSIBLY.........but not RIGHT NOW.

I don't think many here watched all their games this year..........anyone that has cannot realistically say this team deserves to be ranked in the TOP 15...............but they are #12 in the coaches poll which clearly makes them OVERrated at this time.

newguy · 10-05-10, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Why do you say this????

I don't have IOWA in my TOP 15 at the PRESENT TIME .............yet they are ranked that in both the COACHES and AP POLLS and more then one voter in these polls has them in their top ten.

Why so many keep bringing IOWA into this Florida conversation is meaningless.

The fact is, at the PRESENT TIME, Florida has not shown they are a TOP 15 team, let alone TOP 10.

Will they be 3-5 weeks, QUITE POSSIBLY.........but not RIGHT NOW.

I don't think many here watched all their games this year..........anyone that has cannot realistically say this team deserves to be ranked in the TOP 15...............but they are #12 in the coaches poll which clearly makes them OVERrated at this time.

Unless you have watched every single game played by every single team in the FBS - how can you say whether or not a team is over-rated. You have watched Florida and wasn't impressed. I watched Ohio State vs. Illinois this weekend - I now feel they are overrated. I also watched Air Force play Navy and can't believe they aren't higher rated. You see - I can make up things about teams because I watched them too!!

Fishhead · 10-05-10, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by newguy

Unless you have watched every single game played by every single team in the FBS - how can you say whether or not a team is over-rated. You have watched Florida and wasn't impressed. I watched Ohio State vs. Illinois this weekend - I now feel they are overrated. I also watched Air Force play Navy and can't believe they aren't higher rated. You see - I can make up things about teams because I watched them too!!

Exactly, you make things up, I do not.

Tell me why FLORIDA is a top 15 team............what warrants this.

Please explain

dwaechte · 10-05-10, 10:33 AM

For the record on the Florida debate:

http://www.nutshellsports.com/ncaafb.html - Nutshell is a pretty good representation of point based predictors and has them 7th.

Fremeau Efficiency Ratings(http://footballoutsiders.com/fei-rat...g-expectations) have not been updated for this week but had Florida at 16th in general efficiency and 27th in SOS going into the week.