Kansas State -3 @ Colorado: Write up, your thoughts/plays wanted

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  • mofome
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #1
    Kansas State -3 @ Colorado: Write up, your thoughts/plays wanted



    open: Kansas State -4.5 @ Col
    current: Kansas State -3/-3.5 @ Col: 0/u 139

    Kansas State: (sagarin #37, RPI #36)
    12-4
    5-5 ats
    1-2 away
    0/u 7-3


    Colorado: (sagarin #144, RPI #114)
    9-8
    6-7 ats
    4-4 home
    0/u 6-7


    wagerline consensus: 67.79% on kansas state


    Kansas state comes in as one of the more interesting teams in the nation, led by the countries most dynamic talent, Michael Beasley (24.6 ppg/12.6 boards). Beasley isnt alone on the floor however, 6-6 Bill Walker is another dominant presence, posting 16 and 6 a night.
    In recent weeks, the wildcats have won 7 of 8 including blow out over Texas A&M, and a very solid win on the road over OU. Knst has only played a couple true road games, the notre dame loss is listed as a road loss, but that game was played in NY; their largest road test came at Xavier where they were blown out badly by a team that was able to find their way to the line 39 times.
    When you look over how this team succeeds, it all comes down to rebounding. the wildcats shoot an awful percentage from the line, from the floor, and from 3, but they are one of the best rebounding teams in the nation and they get 2nd chance points. Col will have to clean up the glass if they hope to win this one.
    In and interview with Rivals, first year coach Frank Martin talked a lot about Walker and his revovery from the big knee injury. Martin seems to think this kid is finally confident in his legs and that this team is playing its best ball right now. He goes on to discuss a bit about the upcoming game with Colordao. here is the interview:




    The Buffs come into this game 0-4 vs the top 50 and really struggling overall. Their best game of the year may have been their last, when they held Texas to 40% shooting and fell to the longhorns by 2, as a 17.5 point dog. Over the years it seems Col has gotten the rep as a tough home team, but they've really struggled vs the number at home this season. This team will only go as far as Richard Roby can take them, the 6-6 swing man is a California hs star that's put up close to 20 points in Colorado's last 8 games. He knocks down about 50% from the field and just over 37% from 3. Roby will, no doubt, be the focus of the Wildcat defense tonight, and that will leave Silas and Hall the chance to step up. Xavier Silas is a young kid from Texas that was fairly highly thought of coming out of hs and had some decent offers before deciding on the Buffs. Hes another 6-5/6-6 guard the forms a nice trio with Marucs Hall; all 3 average over 10 points per contest.
    Col will try to force problems for Kansas state with their 4 guard offense and ability to shoot the 3. Twice this year KNST has faced offenses that run 4 guards at the same time as Coach Martin references here:
    "We've played two teams who play very similar to them," Martin said of Colorado. "Western Illinois runs a very similar offense and Pittsburg State. Those are two teams we didn't do a good job defending earlier in the year. Those two games were earlier in the season, and we're a little better now than we were then." -gopowercat.com

    This small lineup could create some open outside looks for Colorado, but look for them to be one and done more often than not. Col ranks 318th i the nation in offensive rebounding while the wildcats rank 4th nationally in that catagory. Ironically, one of the bigger concerns the cats seem to be facing on the road tonight will be the lack of crowd noise in the arena on wed night. gopowercat.com got this quote from Pullen:
    "Oklahoma has a really good fan base," Pullen said of the challenges of playing on the road in the Big 12. "Our coach was telling us that Colorado will lull you to sleep because they don't have a loud crowd. He said it will seem like it's empty and seem like you're playing for no reason, but we still have to come out with the same energy as in the Oklahoma game and get a win."

    If the biggest factor in the favore of colorado is the lack of crowd noise, while the cats come in with the advatage of having more talent and a healthy Bill Walker, im going to have to lean towards the Wildcats having the advantage tonight. Beasley and Walker arent much out of HS anyway, they're used to playing without the noise. If Kansas State can take care of the ball, i look for them to improve to 3-0 in the big-12 and cover the 3 tonight.

    my play
    knst -3






    trend players:
    ATS TrendsKansas St.
    Wildcats are 8-2 ATS in their last 10 games vs. a team with a winning S.U. record.
    Wildcats are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games following a SU win of more than 20 points.
    Wildcats are 15-5 ATS in their last 20 games as a favorite.
    Wildcats are 19-7 ATS in their last 26 vs. Big 12.
    Wildcats are 2-6 ATS in their last 8 road games vs. a team with a winning home record.
    Wildcats are 3-10 ATS in their last 13 games as a road favorite.
    Wildcats are 2-9 ATS in their last 11 games as a road favorite of 0.5-6.5.


    Colorado
    Buffaloes are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games as an underdog.
    Buffaloes are 6-0 ATS in their last 6 vs. Big 12.
    Buffaloes are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games following a ATS win.
    Buffaloes are 5-2 ATS in their last 7 games following a S.U. loss.
    Buffaloes are 11-24 ATS in their last 35 games vs. a team with a winning % above .600.
    Buffaloes are 6-14 ATS in their last 20 games as a home underdog.
    Buffaloes are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 home games.
    Buffaloes are 0-5 ATS in their last 5 games vs. a team with a winning S.U. record.


    OU TrendsKansas St.
    Over is 4-0 in Wildcats last 4 games as a favorite of 0.5-6.5.
    Over is 6-0 in Wildcats last 6 games as a favorite.
    Under is 5-0 in Wildcats last 5 games following a ATS win.
    Over is 8-2 in Wildcats last 10 road games.
    Over is 7-2 in Wildcats last 9 road games vs. a team with a winning home record.
    Over is 6-2 in Wildcats last 8 games as a road favorite.
    Over is 8-3 in Wildcats last 11 overall.
    Over is 5-2 in Wildcats last 7 games following a S.U. win.


    Colorado
    Under is 4-0 in Buffaloes last 4 games following a ATS win.
    Over is 7-1 in Buffaloes last 8 games following a S.U. loss.
    Under is 5-1 in Buffaloes last 6 games as a home underdog of 0.5-6.5.
    Under is 19-7 in Buffaloes last 26 Wednesday games.
    Over is 5-2 in Buffaloes last 7 vs. Big 12.


    Head to HeadWildcats are 6-0 ATS in the last 6 meetings in Colorado.
    Over is 5-0 in the last 5 meetings in Colorado.
    Wildcats are 5-0 ATS in the last 5 meetings.
    Underdog is 7-2 ATS in the last 9 meetings.
    Road team is 7-2 ATS in the last 9 meetings.
  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #2
    I know what they say about on any given night, especially in college hoops. But I really like Kansas State in the 3-3½ point range, depending how peopel like to play with those half-points and their prices. Colorado's certainly capable of the outright win, but they're a pretty screwed up team. If you really feel good about the Buffaloes, I think the better play on them is the moneyline.

    K-State should come into this one on a high off that win over Texas A&M, so the trick might be to keep them from going out and running mad in the first half and then possibly winded/half-spent in the second half. I'll say Wildcats win, 76-68, so I like the over 139½ as well.
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    • MoneySportsGuy
      SBR MVP
      • 12-09-07
      • 4891

      #3
      I say KSU but man Colorodo showed up the other night at home when I was huge on Nebraska so its iffy iffy haha

      Man by the way mofo what the @$@$ happend with Tenn last night? I had a feeling Kentucky was going to finally show up at home and sure enough big on Tenn and that crap. Reallly bad I was on my way home driving, check score Tenn 50 UK 42 with 13 to go, then get home its like Tenn 52 UK 54 yikes
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      • Wrigley
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-28-07
        • 7268

        #4
        Great writeup Mo, great information Love K-state after reading it.

        Beasley is fun to watch, Twolves licking their chops hoping they get the number one pick in the NBA lotto this year they want him bad.
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        • pvcpipe
          SBR Hustler
          • 01-22-08
          • 56

          #5
          nice write-up, bro. i notice you included the wagerline public % numbers. i think the consensus numbers are solid handicapping tools.....for example....i never take bet against the home dog in ncaab if >75% are on the away fave (with a decent sized sample).

          doesn't apply in this case, tho. good luck on kstate!
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          • mofome
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-19-07
            • 13003

            #6
            Originally posted by Willie Bee
            I know what they say about on any given night, especially in college hoops. But I really like Kansas State in the 3-3½ point range, depending how peopel like to play with those half-points and their prices. Colorado's certainly capable of the outright win, but they're a pretty screwed up team. If you really feel good about the Buffaloes, I think the better play on them is the moneyline.

            K-State should come into this one on a high off that win over Texas A&M, so the trick might be to keep them from going out and running mad in the first half and then possibly winded/half-spent in the second half. I'll say Wildcats win, 76-68, so I like the over 139½ as well.


            yeah, col could give a lot of teams some trouble, as they showed vs the longhorns, but i just dont think you can give a more talented team many more 2nd chance opportunities. glad to see you are leaning kst. i, like you, would take the ml on col if that was my side.
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            • mofome
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-19-07
              • 13003

              #7
              Originally posted by MoneySportsGuy
              I say KSU but man Colorodo showed up the other night at home when I was huge on Nebraska so its iffy iffy haha

              Man by the way mofo what the @$@$ happend with Tenn last night? I had a feeling Kentucky was going to finally show up at home and sure enough big on Tenn and that crap. Reallly bad I was on my way home driving, check score Tenn 50 UK 42 with 13 to go, then get home its like Tenn 52 UK 54 yikes


              i was catching some of the game at the gym, the vols just couldnt get out in run in the 2nd half. they'll work on their half court offense as the sec season continues forward. they added prince and smith in the offseason, not to mention a couple freshman. they'll transition a bit again when crews comes back and then they should hit a groove.

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              • mofome
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-19-07
                • 13003

                #8
                Originally posted by Wrigley
                Great writeup Mo, great information Love K-state after reading it.

                Beasley is fun to watch, Twolves licking their chops hoping they get the number one pick in the NBA lotto this year they want him bad.


                thats the word in minn? put him in that front court and they're loaded. i love me some craig smith.
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                • mofome
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-19-07
                  • 13003

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pvcpipe
                  nice write-up, bro. i notice you included the wagerline public % numbers. i think the consensus numbers are solid handicapping tools.....for example....i never take bet against the home dog in ncaab if >75% are on the away fave (with a decent sized sample).

                  doesn't apply in this case, tho. good luck on kstate!

                  i like that trend/% you mentioned. thanks pvc and bol to you as well. you on anything tonight?

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                  • MoneySportsGuy
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-09-07
                    • 4891

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mofome
                    i was catching some of the game at the gym, the vols just couldnt get out in run in the 2nd half. they'll work on their half court offense as the sec season continues forward. they added prince and smith in the offseason, not to mention a couple freshman. they'll transition a bit again when crews comes back and then they should hit a groove.

                    yeah glad I wasnt at the gym I would be all talking with my headphones on haha yelling at the TV

                    had a rough losing streak this shttt needs to turn around yeesh. hey mo what book do you like to use?
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                    • donjuan
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-29-07
                      • 3993

                      #11
                      Colorado instituted a new system (Princeton offense) at the beginning of the year and are only now coming to grips with it. Line here opened at 4.5 and got bet down over the course of the day FWIW.
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                      • curious
                        Restricted User
                        • 07-20-07
                        • 9093

                        #12
                        Originally posted by donjuan
                        Colorado instituted a new system (Princeton offense) at the beginning of the year and are only now coming to grips with it. Line here opened at 4.5 and got bet down over the course of the day FWIW.
                        Let me know which way you bet on this game so I can fade you. Free Money. Oh, and show your wager ticket.
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                        • donjuan
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-29-07
                          • 3993

                          #13
                          Let me know which way you bet on this game so I can fade you. Free Money. Oh, and show your wager ticket.
                          You were pretty insistent that I was on ignore and "knew it". What happened?
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                          • curious
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-20-07
                            • 9093

                            #14
                            Originally posted by donjuan
                            You were pretty insistent that I was on ignore and "knew it". What happened?
                            Some of my friends told me you were talking shit about me, so put up or shut up. Wager ticket please so I can fade you.
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                            • donjuan
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-29-07
                              • 3993

                              #15
                              Some of my friends told me you were talking about me, so put up or shut up. Wager ticket please so I can fade you.
                              LOL. As I've said previously, I'm not going to post plays on here because I don't see it as being +ev or even 0ev for me to do so. Still smarting your verbal diarrhea being exposed in the ATS thread?
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                              • BuddyBear
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                                • 08-10-05
                                • 7233

                                #16
                                MoFome, you are single handedly keeping this forum alive...

                                Keep up the good work....
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                                • Diddy
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                                  • 01-23-08
                                  • 43

                                  #17
                                  Very good write up!
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                                  • Diddy
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 01-23-08
                                    • 43

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                    MoFome, you are single handedly keeping this forum alive...

                                    Keep up the good work....
                                    He will have help now that i am here!

                                    MoFo.....i didnt bet the game!! But I hope you win!
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                                    • mofome
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-19-07
                                      • 13003

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                      MoFome, you are single handedly keeping this forum alive...

                                      Keep up the good work....


                                      haha thanks for the compliment but there are obviously a ton of great guys here. im happy to be a part BB.
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                                      • mofome
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-19-07
                                        • 13003

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Diddy
                                        He will have help now that i am here!

                                        MoFo.....i didnt bet the game!! But I hope you win!

                                        diddy, thanks for the compliments on the write up. as you know im happy you're here.



                                        i wish the smileys would work for me, im trying to get some cheers action goin but it aint happenin.
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                                        • Wrigley
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-28-07
                                          • 7268

                                          #21
                                          The game begins now Mo crunch time KSU up by 10 lets bring this home.
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                                          • mofome
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-19-07
                                            • 13003

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by donjuan
                                            Colorado instituted a new system (Princeton offense) at the beginning of the year and are only now coming to grips with it. Line here opened at 4.5 and got bet down over the course of the day FWIW.


                                            well im sure you're very familiar with their coach, hes a great basketball mind, but im not sure that the players have 'baught in' as they say. i know where the line opened, i know where it went, and i know who the public was on (all posted in the thread), but my info gave me knst as a play and i took it. i cant base everything on the movement/consensus information. i do respect your views though, as you know. you're a sharp dude but you give people a lot of shtt and they, therefore, want to make you out to be an idiot. you're obviously not an idiot. gl to you tonight.
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                                            • mofome
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                                              • 12-19-07
                                              • 13003

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Wrigley
                                              The game begins now Mo crunch time KSU up by 10 lets bring this home.

                                              yeah i just got back from the gym and saw a 12 point game, its probably gonna be tight, but i'll take this spot.
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                                              • mofome
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-19-07
                                                • 13003

                                                #24
                                                19 point game, 2 minutes left
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                                                • MoneySportsGuy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-09-07
                                                  • 4891

                                                  #25
                                                  goodjob on those that took KSU
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                                                  • mofome
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                                                    • 12-19-07
                                                    • 13003

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MoneySportsGuy
                                                    goodjob on those that took KSU

                                                    my pc still wont allow me to post smileys. i wonder whats wrong with this pos.
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                                                    • Cee
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-24-07
                                                      • 1899

                                                      #27
                                                      Mo barely squeaked that one out
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                                                      • mofome
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                                                        • 12-19-07
                                                        • 13003

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Cee
                                                        Mo barely squeaked that one out


                                                        where has big cee been all night? making love to ladies?
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                                                        • Cee
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-24-07
                                                          • 1899

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mofome
                                                          where has big cee been all night? making love to ladies?
                                                          Cee watching ladies tennis
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                                                          • NEP Dynasty
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 10-17-06
                                                            • 858

                                                            #30
                                                            Good call guy
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                                                            • Checkerboard
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                                                              • 05-15-06
                                                              • 7799

                                                              #31
                                                              nice write up and call mofome.
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                                                              • mofome
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                                                                • 12-19-07
                                                                • 13003

                                                                #32
                                                                ty
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                                                                • MoneySportsGuy
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-09-07
                                                                  • 4891

                                                                  #33
                                                                  congrats on your win mofo

                                                                  how do you got for tomorrow?
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                                                                  • mofome
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-19-07
                                                                    • 13003

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MoneySportsGuy
                                                                    congrats on your win mofo

                                                                    how do you got for tomorrow?
                                                                    no one yet, i dont have anything until after i write a game up. those have been 8-4 so far, but i dont do them every day. maybe i should. i just selected this game completely at random and capped it.
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                                                                    • MoneySportsGuy
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-09-07
                                                                      • 4891

                                                                      #35
                                                                      nice yeah I need to start doing that. kinda upset with myself. JJ made that video for me about money management and in it he was saying, sometimes you have urge if pick a team, and then you read posts and everybody on somebody else so you 2nd guess and jump on it. and so wtf do I do? Sat Sun and Mon every freaking day I had analyzed some of main games, then would have strong play and then boom sit there and read posts and everybody would pick other but never wrote anything about it much, just was like well something I am not seeing and then you start to look at stats again to make yourself see other side and convince ahhh and go figure if went with gut and my cap would have hit all of them insane so I think I am going to start doing write ups and see what people think I like dialogue and people sharing info and opinions instread of just posting their plays I mean geez back it up and tell why you did it haha
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