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  • The Seer
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    • 10-29-07
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    Chess Champion Bobby Fischer Dies
    Chess Champion Bobby Fischer Dies
    Posted: 2008-01-18 10:15:26
    Filed Under: Nation News, World News
    REYKJAVIK, Iceland (Jan. 18) -- Bobby Fischer, the reclusive American chess master who became a Cold War icon when he dethroned the Soviet Union's Boris Spassky as world champion in 1972, has died. He was 64.

    Fischer died Thursday in a Reykjavik hospital, his spokesman, Gardar Sverrisson, said. There was no immediate word on the cause of death.

    Born in Chicago and raised in Brooklyn, Robert James Fischer was a U.S. chess champion at 14 and a grand master at 15. He beat Spassky in a series of games in Reykjavik to claim America's first world chess championship in more than a century.

    The event had tremendous symbolic importance, pitting the intensely individualistic young American against a product of the grim and soulless Soviet Union.

    It also was marked by Fischer's odd behavior - possibly calculated psychological warfare against Spassky - that ranged from arriving two days late to complaining about the lighting, TV cameras, the spectators, even the shine on the table.

    Spassky said in a brief phone call from France, where he lives, that he was "very sorry" to hear of Fischer's death.

    Former Russian chess champion Garry Kasparov said Fischer's conquest of the chess world in the 1960s was "a revolutionary breakthrough" for the game.

    But Fischer's reputation as a chess genius soon was eclipsed by his idiosyncrasies. He lost his world title in 1975 after refusing to defend it against Anatoly Karpov. He dropped out of competitive chess and largely out of view, emerging occasionally to make erratic and often anti-Semitic comments, although his mother was Jewish.

    "The tragedy is that he left this world too early, and his extravagant life and scandalous statements did not contribute to the popularity of chess," Kasparov told The Associated Press.

    Fischer lived in secret outside the United States but emerged in 1992 to confront Spassky again, in a highly publicized match in Yugoslavia. Fischer beat Spassky 10-5 to win $3.35 million.

    The U.S. government said Fischer's playing the match violated U.N. sanctions against Yugoslavia, imposed for Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic's role in fomenting war in the Balkans.

    Over the years, Fischer gave occasional interviews with a radio station in the Philippines, often digressing into anti-Semitic rants and accusing American officials of hounding him.

    He praised the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, saying America should be "wiped out," and described Jews as "thieving, lying bastards." His mother was Jewish.

    He also announced he had abandoned chess in 1996 and launched a new version in Argentina, "Fischerandom," a computerized shuffler that randomly distributes chess pieces on the back row of the board at the start of each game.

    Fischer claimed it would bring the fun back into the game and rid it of cheats.

    In July 2004, Fischer was arrested in Japan and threatened with extradition to the United States to face sanctions-busting charges. He spent nine months in custody before the dispute was resolved when Iceland - a chess-mad nation and site of his greatest triumph - granted him citizenship.

    Fischer told reporters that he was finished with a chess world he regarded as corrupt, and sparred with U.S. journalists who asked about his anti-American tirades.

    "The United States is evil. There's this axis of evil. What about the allies of evil - the United States, England, Japan, Australia? These are the evildoers," Fischer said.

    In his final years, Fischer railed against the chess establishment, alleging that the outcomes of many top-level chess matches were decided in advance.

    Instead, he championed his concept of random chess.

    "I don't play the old chess," he told reporters upon arrival in Iceland. "But obviously if I did, I would be the best."
  • BigBollocks
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    #2
    The man spoke out against Jews, and the US government did everything they could to ruin his life from then on out. It almost proved his point. You can speak out against Christians, Muslims, and Mormons, but if you say anything about the Jews you are branded an "antisemite" and any hopes you had of success in the US are history...
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    • DrunkenLullaby
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      • 03-30-07
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      #3
      Guy was living proof that pure genius + virtual insanity are often odd bedfellows.

      R.I.P.
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      • SBR Lou
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        • 08-02-07
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        #4
        Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby
        Guy was living proof that pure genius + virtual insanity are often odd bedfellows.
        Ganchrow has already taught us that.
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        • DrunkenLullaby
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          • 03-30-07
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          #5
          Originally posted by crazyl
          Ganchrow has already taught us that.


          ...and Van Gogh & John Nash (to name a couple) before him.
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          • donjuan
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            • 08-29-07
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            #6
            The man spoke out against Jews, and the US government did everything they could to ruin his life from then on out. It almost proved his point. You can speak out against Christians, Muslims, and Mormons, but if you say anything about the Jews you are branded an "antisemite" and any hopes you had of success in the US are history...
            2 things:

            1. He spoke out against the US as well. That was probably more important to the US gov't.
            2. Unlike other religions, Jews are a racial group as well. Do people get ostracized when publicly making racist statements against black people?
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            • pico
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              • 04-05-07
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              #7
              i am just glad jews are not controlling this forum. or are they?
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              • pavyracer
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                • 04-12-07
                • 82862

                #8
                Anyone that claims is a 100% Jew is a liar. There was no Jewish state for more than 2,000 years till 1948. I'm pretty sure noone can claim in their genealogy today that they are descentants of David and Solomon.
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                • pico
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  Anyone that claims is a 100% Jew is a liar. There was no Jewish state for more than 2,000 years till 1948. I'm pretty sure noone can claim in their genealogy today that they are descentants of David and Solomon.
                  i bet there are couple of 100% jews out there...probably retarded ones from inbreeding
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                  • BadNina
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                    • 11-27-07
                    • 10491

                    #10
                    Originally posted by donjuan
                    2. Unlike other religions, Jews are a racial group as well. Do people get ostracized when publicly making racist statements against black people?
                    Depends on where you are and who you are with you say it.
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                    • slacker00
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                      • 10-06-05
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                      #11
                      I was heavy into chess for a while and Fischer was a personal inspiration for me. He may have went a little batty in the end, but I still look up to what he did at the pinnacle of the cold war, defeating the USSR chess machine. RIP Bobby.

                      --slacker00
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                      • Wrigley
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                        • 12-28-07
                        • 7268

                        #12
                        RIP ...Bobby
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                        • Dark Horse
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                          • 12-14-05
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                          #13
                          Brilliant chess player. I'm no longer into chess, but I remember studying his games and it was pure art. Only Kasparov came close. But I always preferred Fischer. Especially the way he used his Queen.

                          He got a little confused in real life. To be that deep into chess and stay balanced would be hard. (I came across a grand master once in the hallway while he took a break from a game, and he looked like he walked straight out of the asylum). I would say that chess took over and Fischer saw the whole world as a chess board of good versus evil, with no grey areas; everything black and white. And, as on the board, he always felt that he had to make the strongest possible statement.
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                          • Shark79
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                            • 11-19-07
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                            #14
                            RIP Bobby ... I did see vids of him playing the game ... pure art
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                            • donjuan
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by BadNina
                              Depends on where you are and who you are with you say it.
                              Try reading every word next time. His tiff with Jeremy Schaap was disgusting.
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                              • BigBollocks
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                Try reading every word next time. His tiff with Jeremy Schaap was disgusting.
                                Jeremy picked the fight with him by coming to Iceland just to ask him why he and his father had a go at it earlier. Jeremy also tried to have him arrested in Iceland afterwards too for hate speech. Who's the snake in that situation again?

                                There was obviously A LOT of editing in that piece. That's the beauty of being the interviewer as opposed to the interviewee, you can always make viewers see things however you want them to.
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                                • BigBollocks
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by donjuan
                                  2. Unlike other religions, Jews are a racial group as well. Do people get ostracized when publicly making racist statements against black people?

                                  Don I can convert to Judaism tomorrow. I can't become black (although many a white suburbanite has tried). Why can't Christians, Mormons, and Muslims in particular claim it's more out of bounds to attack them because they're races as well?
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                                  • donjuan
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                                    #18
                                    Jeremy picked the fight with him by coming to Iceland just to ask him why he and his father had a go at it earlier. Jeremy also tried to have him arrested in Iceland afterwards too for hate speech. Who's the snake in that situation again?
                                    You don't think he possibly went as a reporter on a fairly major story? Besides, it was hardly the first time Fischer had made those kinds of comments.

                                    Don I can convert to Judaism tomorrow. I can't become black (although many a white suburbanite has tried). Why can't Christians, Mormons, and Muslims in particular claim it's more out of bounds to attack them because they're races as well?
                                    Because Christians, Mormons and Muslims are not racial groups. Ever heard of Ashkenazi Jews?

                                    Stick to begging for $8 an hour jobs in the future.
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                                    • BigBollocks
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by donjuan
                                      You don't think he possibly went as a reporter on a fairly major story? Besides, it was hardly the first time Fischer had made those kinds of comments.

                                      No, I think he went as a reporter with a vendetta. He even said at the onset that he went to discover more about what caused the riff between Fischer and his father.


                                      Originally posted by donjuan
                                      Because Christians, Mormons and Muslims are not racial groups. Ever heard of Ashkenazi Jews?

                                      And neither are Jews. There are certain segments in all three of those religions that all come from particular regions. According to your logic the whole religion should be classified as a race too. You're a ****ing idiot who thinks he's intelligent, and resorts to namecalling when he's proven ignorant (we've seen this with you time and again). I'm not handling with you babywipes for whatever reason you think we all should, and won't hesitate to expose you time and again in the future. Stick to giving out advice on how to win longterm in craps, roulette, and baccarat kid-o.
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                                      • donjuan
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                                        #20
                                        No, I think he went as a reporter with a vendetta. He even said at the onset that he went to discover more about what caused the riff between Fischer and his father.
                                        You have any links for this stuff? Surely all of this would be on Youtube?

                                        And neither are Jews. There are certain segments in all three of those religions that all come from particular regions. According to your logic the whole religion should be classified as a race too. You're a ****ing idiot who thinks he's intelligent, and resorts to namecalling when he's proven ignorant (we've seen this with you time and again). I'm not handling with you babywipes for whatever reason you think we all should, and won't hesitate to expose you time and again in the future.
                                        You haven't exposed anything other than that you are a retard of the highest order. Can you explain why Hitler killed anyone with Jewish ancestry because he considered their blood to be impure? How is it that there is a distinct "Jewish look" if Jews are not a race.

                                        Also I'd love to hear about the times I've been proven to be ignorant.

                                        Stick to giving out advice on how to win longterm in craps, roulette, and baccarat kid-o.
                                        Do you think it is possible to be a long term winner in craps or roulette?

                                        Note: I've actually never even played either.
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                                        • BigBollocks
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                                          #21
                                          Don you're obviously an under 25 kid who is stir crazy, feels underutilized, completely unloved, and angry at the world. As for "looking Jewish", a high percentage of people look Muslim, Buddhist, and Hindu too. There are also a lot of Jewish people that don't look any different than anyone else either (a much higher % than the other three named above I can assure you). As for the answer of why many people look that way, tribal origins and evolution would be a good place to start. You don't deserve any special status than the other ones.

                                          For a guy who has played neither craps nor roulette why are you giving out craps advice then? Like everything else, you don't know jackshit about what you are talking about, but feel the need to spout of anyways. I spent a good portion of my life working in the casino industry, and can you tell all casinos openly welcome a know-it-all with a new system like you anyday...
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                                          • donjuan
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                                            #22
                                            Don you're obviously an under 25 kid who is stir crazy, feels underutilized, completely unloved, and angry at the world. As for "looking Jewish", a high percentage of people look Muslim, Buddhist, and Hindu too.
                                            I'm quite happy with my life, actually. People don't look Muslim, Buddhist or Hindu. They look Arab, Persian, Indian, etc.

                                            As for the answer of why many people look that way, tribal origins and evolution would be a good place to start. You don't deserve any special status than the other ones.
                                            Uh, that is what race is.

                                            For a guy who has played neither craps nor roulette why are you giving out craps advice then? Like everything else, you don't know jack about what you are talking about, but feel the need to spout of anyways.
                                            You don't need experience playing a game to analyze it. You just need to know the rules, which I do.

                                            I spent a good portion of my life working in the casino industry, and can you tell all casinos openly welcome a know-it-all with a new system like you anyday...
                                            LOL I specifically stated above that I hadn't played these games and you still say this. And when have I ever mentioned systems. I simply said that you can beat craps if you are an expert dice setter. You were the one who brought up roulette, but since you did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Jagger.
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                                            • pokerking
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                                              • 02-08-07
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                                              #23
                                              Fisher beat 20 grandmasters in a row without a draw. Nobody will come close to that today because of the high amount of draws today.
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                                              • Scorpion
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BigBollocks
                                                Jeremy picked the fight with him by coming to Iceland just to ask him why he and his father had a go at it earlier. Jeremy also tried to have him arrested in Iceland afterwards too for hate speech. Who's the snake in that situation again?

                                                There was obviously A LOT of editing in that piece. That's the beauty of being the interviewer as opposed to the interviewee, you can always make viewers see things however you want them to.

                                                I agree, Jeremy was just there to make trouble!

                                                What an asshole Jermey is! Dirtball!
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                                                • slacker00
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Scorpion
                                                  I agree, Jeremy was just there to make trouble!

                                                  What an asshole Jermey is! Dirtball!
                                                  I agree with you guys.

                                                  Everyone knew that Bobby had lost his marbles by that point. That's right after he'd spent time in a Japanese prison and seeking political asylum. Suddenly he's got this pencilneck asking loaded questions that everryone knows will push Bobby's buttons. If this was a fistfight, it's like Jeremy punched him in the balls. Sure, you made him lay down, but nobody's going to respect you for doing that to a guy.
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                                                  • thezbar
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                                                    #26
                                                    I find it sad that his life wasn't happier.A great gift that brought national pride to the USA at an important time for the country.That is now I remember Bobby Fischer. May his soul find peace and comfort!
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                                                    • Slim
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                                                      #27
                                                      The man can't rest in peace. Chess Great Bobby Fischer's Body Exhumed for DNA Test
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                                                      • str
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                                                        #28
                                                        Pretty sure this guy died 2 or 3 or whatever years ago.
                                                        Hell of a thing when he won!!!
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                                                        • pico
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                                                          #29
                                                          he is great. all great men are little nutty
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                                                          • THE PROFIT
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by str
                                                            Pretty sure this guy died 2 or 3 or whatever years ago.
                                                            Hell of a thing when he won!!!
                                                            The thread is from 08 goofass!
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                                                            • str
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                                                              #31
                                                              Then what is the news flash!
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                                                              • THE PROFIT
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by str
                                                                Then what is the news flash!
                                                                People like to bump threads for no reason, I wish SBR would put a date the thread was started to the left in the main forum like they do to the right for the last post.
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                                                                • str
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Yep,
                                                                  I see it now. Guess my old ass still needs to read the fine print.
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                                                                  • THE PROFIT
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                                                                    • 11-27-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by str
                                                                    Yep,
                                                                    I see it now. Guess my old ass still needs to read the fine print.


                                                                    No, they need to fix this. I'm sure it could be done so we could see its an old thread before clicking
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                                                                    • Sunde91
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      God rest his soul.

                                                                      Great Actor.

                                                                      One of my favorite movies of all-time.
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