Hey you get your facts from wikipedia..I read the official reports from the structural engineers who did the investigation and have been to seminars taught by them.
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what do you think the wiki quote is referenced from? Everything you said is contradicted by "official reports".Originally posted by pavyracerComment -
It always has been. You just subscribe to the "official conspiracy" that a boogey man in the mountains of Pakistan was the master mind behind 9/11.Originally posted by B1GER1C828Comment -
There is a conspiracy theory for every significant event in the history of this country. It's nothing new. People need something to talk about.Comment -
No, that's what American Idol and Entertainment tonight are for ya dumbfuk. It's nothing new that intellectually lazy and ignorant people are perfectly content with their head in the ground. Or in your case, stuck up your ass.Originally posted by ShonnerComment -
Don't say, instead of honoring those who've perished 9 years ago, we got this old fashioned hollering and bickering.Originally posted by B1GER1C828
Ceasefire!!! And show some respect.Comment -
Why don't you show some respect for those you claim to be honoring and demand that the real terrorists behind the 9/11 attack are brought to justice.Originally posted by N.O.S.Comment -
You know who the "real terrorist" were? Why don't you enlighten us then.Originally posted by losturmarbles
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The ones lying about what really happened. The ones covering up the truth.Originally posted by N.O.S.You know who the "real terrorist" were? Why don't you enlighten us then.
The Anniversary of 9/11 Don't want to hear this? Tough. Grow up.
New Evidence Of Controlled Demolition On 9/11 This material is being released to the International Center for 9/11 Studies under the Freedom of Information Act, in response to a lawsuit the Center filed against NIST. September 2, 2010
1,270 Architects/Engineers Reveal Hard Evidence of Explosive Demolition at World Trade Center on 9/11 Former US Senator Mike Gravel (D-AK) and Richard Gage, AIA, Founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Discuss Scientific Findings. National Press Club, Washington DC, 2:00 pm, Thursday, September 9, 2010
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Seems like yesterday
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every 9/11 discussion needs themselves a conspiracy theorist now i guess.
i hope its not based off that internet documentary, loose change or whatever.
even the kids that made it admitted to fabricating some of their evidence.
god bless those who lost their lives that day and their families.Comment -
There are eyewitness account from Washington (hundreds) .... minutes after the attack at the Petagon clearly descrbing the commercial airliner which was probably 50 feet away from them...yet these dopes claim it was a missileOriginally posted by stealthyburrito
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yeah my friend was in high school at the time, mere block away from the pentagon and saw the damn plane.Originally posted by Extra InningsThere are eyewitness account from Washington (hundreds) .... minutes after the attack at the Petagon clearly descrbing the commercial airliner which was probably 50 feet away from them...yet these dopes claim it was a missile
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JJ had credibility? Among who?Originally posted by ttwarrior1Comment -
Believing the government's version of events is believing the "official" conspiracy.Originally posted by stealthyburrito
The kids didn't admit to fabricating evidence. They kids didn't fabricate evidence. They do present evidence of the government fabricating and ignoring evidence, and theorizing what actually happened based on the evidence and why the government would lie about it. They have made errors in some parts and may have admitted to making errors. There has been subsequent releases of their film that correct these errors.
Every 9/11 discussion needs someone willing to question the official story. And question the encroachment on our constitutional and human rights the government has taken away since that day.
You don't like conspiracy theorists? Watch "9/11: Blueprint for Truth". They don't like making conspiracy theories either. They are architects and engineers that refute the officail story of how the towers and wtc7 collapsed, strictly from an architectural standpoint.Comment -
Oh cripes.
The conspiracy whackanuts have arrived.
They chide anyone who believes the official version of events-----expecting you to believe their version because after all, "its on the internet"----
Hey look everyone----I am giving you links-----links----LINKS!!!Comment -
i wish people would stop using the words "conspiracy theory" when relating to 9/11, it stopped being a theory the minute 1 piece of evidence was found and there have been a few. i just hope and pray that one day the truth will be set free.Comment -
They don't claim it was a missile. They have theories that it could have been a missile.Originally posted by Extra InningsThere are eyewitness account from Washington (hundreds) .... minutes after the attack at the Petagon clearly descrbing the commercial airliner which was probably 50 feet away from them...yet these dopes claim it was a missile
As far as what the people saw, it probably wasn't a 757. It could have very well been a military plane disguised to look like a commercial airliner, but a 757 has 2 giant titanium engines that were never found. Actually, all that was found was a bunch of small debris and an exit hole that doesn't match a 757.
Also the flight path doesn't make sense. If your target is the pentagon, you can cause the most damage and most causalities by doing a nose down crash in the top of the pentagon. Yet the amateur pilot does a high precision 360 degree turn, descending 7,000 feet in the last 2 minute to impact the pentagon in the front, the only spot with reinforced steel.
Flight 77 and the Pentagon. What Really Happened?
It's one of the most guarded buildings on earth, with probably more CCTV cameras than any other building on earth, and they won't show us a video of a Boeing 757 hitting the pentagon on 9/11.Comment -
Insightful post there, martin. Now go back to sticking your head in the ground.Originally posted by MartinBlankComment -
Well the plane mysteriously vanished. No wings, no fuselage, no giant titanium engines. Only small debris were left.Originally posted by stealthyburritoComment -
actually they do admit to putting false info in their documentaryOriginally posted by losturmarbles
hate to be a link jockey but here:
the reason they give is bullshit smeared on horseshit, and they only gave said reasoning because they were called out on it and had no way to back up their claims. If someone is willing to give me false info and admit to it then well how the hell could i in my right mind find anything else they say to be credible?
For the sake of argument let's say 9/11 was a government conspiracy.
Do you realize the logistics of such a plan? Bush was in office for 8 months when this happened, a plan like this would take years to construct.
thousands if not tens of thousands of government employees would have to know about it. Every one of them kept their mouth shut?
I do believe bush was a terrible president, and used 9/11 as an excuse to pursue an unjustified war in the middle east. But to say he masterminded 9/11?
Most people now realize that 90% of the world basically hates us and our way of life. But people forget (or never even realized) that 90% of the world very much hated us pre-9/11 as well.Comment -
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Leave it to jj to show his fuk'in ignorance and stupidity as usual! What a fuk'in loser you are and it's too bad you have nothing to contribute to this fourm or life for that matter. You're just waste of space on the planet. The bottom line is muslim terrorists orchestrated and carried out 911. And you won't see no stink'in ass muslims posting about remembering 911, because for them it's a day of celebration. You'd better be aware and remain vigilant, because these muslim bastards are just lying in wait to strike in your city next!Comment -
Yeah, where does it say they fabricated evidence? Where did Dylan Avery or Korey Rowe "admit they fabricated evidence"?Originally posted by stealthyburritoactually they do admit to putting false info in their documentary
hate to be a link jockey but here:
the reason they give is bullshit smeared on horseshit, and they only gave said reasoning because they were called out on it and had no way to back up their claims. If someone is willing to give me false info and admit to it then well how the hell could i in my right mind find anything else they say to be credible?
The original Loose Change film made errors and they corrected their errors in subsequent releases. The official reports have also made errors and issued corrections. So using your logic, you shouldn't be trusting the government's version of events either.
Like I said, forget about theories. Watch Blueprint for Truth which only deals with evidence concerning the collapse and observations using the scientific method. Something the official reports fail to do.
Thousands? Only a handful of the US government would've had to known the whole plan. CIA black ops and a few in the White House administration. Private contracts and compartmentation would keep the rest in the dark.Originally posted by stealthyburrito
I never said or implied Bush was the mastermind. There's forces a lot bigger than Bush at play.
It took me a long time to come around. I used to be blinded by the partisan divide in the country. I saw the conspiracy nuts as just anti-Bush liberal zealots. I used to make excuses for Bush, excuses for the unconstitutional patriot act, excuses for the loss of Habeas corpus, etc.
I remember back in 2007, reading something from Alex Jones and thinking "whoa, this guy is a total nut". But the more research I did, the more I looked at the evidence, I have no doubt that the government is lying. And if they are lying, the question remains as to why? That is the scary question.
Look at historical events. Northwoods was a false-flag operation plan by the CIA in 1962. In called for terrorist attacks like hijacking planes, disguising US fighter jets as Cuban MIG fighters, and killing US citizens. Journalist James Bamford summarized Operation Northwoods in his April 24, 2001 book Body of Secrets:
The plan was on the desk of JFK and he refused. JFK was later assassinated. The following year LBJ used the Gulf of Tonkin Incident to go to war in Vietnam. The people that questioned that incident were called conspiracy wackos. But the truth evidentially came out, and it will for 9/11 too.Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.
The point is false-flag attacks and government manipulation of evidence is nothing new. And is certainly nothing our government hasn't done before.
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