When Ganch Bets...

[donjuan]

Curious comes in with his "contribution" in an attempt to make even Shamswolf look good.

[ShamsWoof10]

If you really can pick > 60% winners, I'm not saying you can't, and MM is the problem, why don't you partner with someone who has good MM skills? A win ratio > 60% is a license to print money.

I would say that is a good idea...

I never thought of that...

[ShamsWoof10]

I have never seen a winning post of yours on here. Never seen a losing post either, I'm pretty sure you don't post picks.

In fairness to the truth I have seen some of his picks posted but not reciently.. I think but am not sure that he went 3 wins 2 losses on an occasion...

[ShamsWoof10]

Curious comes in with his "contribution" in an attempt to make even Shamswolf look good.

EXCUSE YOU!!!!!!

[Thremp]

Shams,

You're making yourself look like an idiot.

This whole argument is pointless, because you'd have to have a preternatural gift at picking winner while still being an idiot of the highest order to have a long term record >60%.

But you're not going to understand that. So whatev.

[curious]

Curious comes in with his "contribution" in an attempt to make even Shamswolf look good.

I'm not talking to you, so why is what I do any of your mother****ing business?

[ShamsWoof10]

yeah that's right... whatever....

[curious]

I would say that is a good idea...

I never thought of that...

I would be willing to do it.

[ShamsWoof10]

Curious I'll be happy to show you how I bet... You can't really do it with the book you are at but watch how it works and I have no doubt you will back me up...

Hey curious let me know where I can email you... I'll send you a write up and just tell me what you think of the theory...

[curious]

Curious I'll be happy to show you how I bet... You can't really do it with the book you are at but watch how it works and I have no doubt you will back me up...

Hey curious let me know where I can email you... I'll send you a write up and just tell me what you think of the theory...

Those jackass moderators took my PM away because someone was harassing me and I asked the harasser if he wanted to talk shit to my face, so they said I "threatened" him. Yeah, right. My email address has my real name in it, so I don't want to post it in here. Can you post your email address here and I can email you?

[ShamsWoof10]

Yeah I'll post it for a few minutes...

I have one loss already today and here are the two pending..

1) BET ID=232463619
Straight Wager 12/22/07 17:23 ET
bet 300.00 to win 230.77 Result: Pending

xNevada2Q
xNewMexico2Q 12/22/07(23:59 ET)
xNewMexico2Q +3 (-130)




2) BET ID=232463568
Straight Wager 12/22/07 17:23 ET
bet 200.00 to win 173.91 Result: Pending

xNevada2Q
xNewMexico2Q 12/22/07(23:59 ET)
Under 17 (-115)




3) BET ID=232441175
Straight Wager 12/22/07 15:14 ET
bet 300.00 to win 272.73 Result: Wager Lost

2SMississippi 2ndHalf 14
2CincinnatiU 2ndHalf 17 12/22/07(16:00 ET)
Under 27.5

[curious]

Yeah I'll post it for a few minutes...


I have one loss already today and here are the two pending..

1) BET ID=232463619
Straight Wager 12/22/07 17:23 ET
bet 300.00 to win 230.77 Result: Pending

xNevada2Q
xNewMexico2Q 12/22/07(23:59 ET)
xNewMexico2Q +3 (-130)




2) BET ID=232463568
Straight Wager 12/22/07 17:23 ET
bet 200.00 to win 173.91 Result: Pending

xNevada2Q
xNewMexico2Q 12/22/07(23:59 ET)
Under 17 (-115)




3) BET ID=232441175
Straight Wager 12/22/07 15:14 ET
bet 300.00 to win 272.73 Result: Wager Lost

2SMississippi 2ndHalf 14
2CincinnatiU 2ndHalf 17 12/22/07(16:00 ET)
Under 27.5

just emailed you

[donjuan]

Curious,

I'm simply pointing out that you have absolutely no clue about sports betting, among other things, and should read more and talk less. Almost everything that comes out of your mouth is embarrassing.

Shams,

Like Thremp said, if you are really hitting over 60% you are a complete idiot and are not betting anywhere near enough games.

[SBR Lou]

just emailed you

You quoted his email in your post.

[curious]

Curious,

I'm simply pointing out that you have absolutely no clue about sports betting, among other things, and should read more and talk less. Almost everything that comes out of your mouth is embarrassing.

Shams,

Like Thremp said, if you are really hitting over 60% you are a complete idiot and are not betting anywhere near enough games.

When I want your opinion jackass I will beat it out of you.

[ShamsWoof10]

Ok curious I got it and will email you after halftime..

Just ignore these fools... If it works out just back me up on it BUT DO NOT tell anyone what you are doing... If it does not work then slam me I deserve it... You don't have to put money down just watch it and see what happens...

[curious]

Ok curious I got it and will email you after halftime..

Just ignore these fools... If it works out just back me up on it BUT DO NOT tell anyone what you are doing... If it does not work then slam me I deserve it... You don't have to put money down just watch it and see what happens...

It's gambling bro. I don't mind risking a little on something that may work, I try out new strategies all the time. Some win, some lose. I don't tell this jackasses in here anything any more. The only reason I come to this forum any more is to see the sexy girl of the day posts.

[donjuan]

When I want your opinion jackass I will beat it out of you.

Sorry for trying to help you become a winning gambler. I'll let you get back to donking off your entire bankroll while trying to meet your rollover requirement.

[donjuan]

BTW, it is sad how critical thinking skills are widely ignored here in favor of the preconceived notions of -ev bettors.

[curious]

BTW, it is sad how critical thinking skills are widely ignored here in favor of the preconceived notions of -ev bettors.

Can you please give us links to picks of yours which show that you are a +ev bettor?

[ShamsWoof10]

Can you please give us links to picks of yours which show that you are a +ev bettor?

NOOOOO SH*T!!!

[donjuan]

Why would I do that? I'm more than comfortable with my bankroll growth and my ROI and no dick waving contest on a forum is going to make me do something that is clearly -ev for me. In the past I have posted some picks on a minor sport as a gift to a forum that has taught me a lot, but it's much more satisfying for me to teach someone theory than to just give them picks. Teach a man to fish rather than just giving him fish, or however the proverb goes.

[Thremp]

Can you please give us links to picks of yours which show that you are a +ev bettor?

It doesn't matter if he wins, what he picks or if he even wins. This is a purely theoretical arguments and his theory is sound. If you are winning 60% of your ATS picks, you likely can bet the lower confidence ones at a smaller unit size for a very significant profit. Pretty simple idea.

[curious]

It doesn't matter if he wins, what he picks or if he even wins. This is a purely theoretical arguments and his theory is sound. If you are winning 60% of your ATS picks, you likely can bet the lower confidence ones at a smaller unit size for a very significant profit. Pretty simple idea.

The mother****er comes in here running his mouth at me and one of my friends, saying that we are negative ev players. Yet, he knows nothing about us. Since he is obviously so great at sportsbetting (according to him), I just wanted to see his picks which show that he is so great. In other words, put up or shut up.

[curious]

Why would I do that? I'm more than comfortable with my bankroll growth and my ROI and no dick waving contest on a forum is going to make me do something that is clearly -ev for me. In the past I have posted some picks on a minor sport as a gift to a forum that has taught me a lot, but it's much more satisfying for me to teach someone theory than to just give them picks. Teach a man to fish rather than just giving him fish, or however the proverb goes.

I knew you were nothing but a blowhard. You come in here talking shit to me and my friend. Making out like you are some big expert, then when I ask you to show us your picks which prove you are a big expert you have nothing to show. Typical.

[prop]

I'll take +200 on winning 60% over 100 bets @ -115 max
As long as I have at least 3 years to place all 100 bets.

[donjuan]

One only has to look at your posts and the idiotic parlays and donk teasers you've posted to realize that the vast majority of your sports bets are -EV. Anyway, as Thremp said, whether or not I am a winning bettor is not what is irrelevant here. The theory is what matters. If you'd like to argue that hitting over 60% on mainstream US sports is possible while attempting to make as much money as possible, I'd love to hear it.

[Thremp]

Curious,

Umm... Most experts don't post picks since there is nothing to gain.

[SBR Lou]

Some of these guys are like vultures who are quick to pick at somebody's math when they misspeak about something, but are otherwise absent from the handicapping front.

You're not required to post plays, but you must have some social skills and understand these arguments will recur if you don't join the ranks and socialize with the rest of us on actual game discussion or at least share some plays too.

It creates the impression that you are just here to expose the chinks in peoples armor, and that's not going to be received well even if you have a mathematical leg to stand on. People don't like being called out for sharing their opinions on handicapping or their beliefs by people who never put their own necks out there...

[ShamsWoof10]

How do you know if they are "experts" then..?

For the record.. "crazy" I indirectly recently explain my method to you and you did agree..

[curious]

One only has to look at your posts and the idiotic parlays and donk teasers you've posted to realize that the vast majority of your sports bets are -EV. Anyway, as Thremp said, whether or not I am a winning bettor is not what is irrelevant here. The theory is what matters. If you'd like to argue that hitting over 60% on mainstream US sports is possible while attempting to make as much money as possible, I'd love to hear it.

What are you talking about? I post two types of teasers, teasing through the 3 and 7 in NFL which is a known positive expectation play, and teasing NCAAB home teams who are playing teams that are winless on the road, another known positive expectation play. I do post miracle parlays sometimes, I have hit some of them, but they are just for fun.

Now, if you want to talk about my MLB posts, they have a verifiable high win %, my NCAAB posts have a verifiable high win %, and my big dog NCAAF picks have a verifiable high win %.

Next time you start talking shit to someone, maybe you should know what the **** you are talking about.

[donjuan]

Curious,

There is a big difference between luckboxing it up over a small sample size and actually being a winner.

[curious]

Curious,

There is a big difference between luckboxing it up over a small sample size and actually being a winner.

yes, my point exactly. There is a big difference between you shooting your mouth off about what an expert you are and actually being a winner. And since I have a verifiable record starting in July and you have NO verifiable record you are a blowhard.

[donjuan]

Apparently reading comprehension is another skill you lack.

[greek]

i liked that response myself

you dont post!!!!!!!!!1 theres a lot of scavengers here who dont post!!!!!!!