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  • Extra Innings
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-26-10
    • 15058

    #1
    BetPhoenix Rep says I am acting like a "Rookie"---hilarious
    Here's the Bet



    Here's the chat...He is claiming I am a rookie and don't know what an "Action" bet is. Highlighted the funny parts.

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.
    You are now chatting with 'Alex'
    Alex: Hello. How may I assist you?

    Joe Dimes: Heah Alex... is derrick there

    Alex: yes

    Alex: please hold

    Please wait while I transfer the chat to 'DerekB'.
    You are now chatting with 'DerekB'

    DerekB: Hey whats going on?

    Joe Dimes: heah derrick....can you review my pending wagers....what is going to be cancelled. I thought I said action on that yankees bet (NO BiG DEAL)

    Joe Dimes: I assume the total and the moneyline are cancelled?

    Joe Dimes: But I know I said place action on the yankees and the over

    Joe Dimes: i know we couldnt do the total (industry standard)

    DerekB: hold on let me bring up your account.. yeah I remember action on the line and listed on the total

    Joe Dimes: It's showing Lee

    DerekB: both are still pending right

    Joe Dimes: Yes...but they are "no action"

    DerekB: even if there was a pitching change I dont think that wager will be credited back until the end of the match

    Joe Dimes: that's ok...I just need clarification that BOTH are cancelled (I have 680 to play with)

    DerekB: yeah I just confirmed with the stage, well the yanks -108 action is still good right?

    Joe Dimes: If you can pull a linesman over to read the wager and verify that they would be cancelled I would appreciate it


    DerekB: the total, if there was a pitching change will be credited back to you once the match is over

    Joe Dimes: it says C-Lee

    Joe Dimes: New York Yankees ( -108) (FG) C Lee -L

    DerekB: yeah you have it action, its doesnt matter who pitched

    Joe Dimes: You are positive (it says Lee)

    DerekB: regardless of what your wager says whos pitching. you have it action, therefore your bet is valid.. who
    started , do you know?

    Joe Dimes: it starts at 10. Lee was traded, hence the angle on the play. It should just say "Action"....look at the
    pull-down menu

    DerekB: nevermind its hasnt even started

    DerekB: right, you have the yanks -108 action.. so even if another pitcher besides Lee starts, your bet is valid.. positive on this


    DerekB: now, the total, since you cant have it action is different.. if there was a change if pitchers, then wager will be refunded once the game is over

    DerekB: make sense?

    Joe Dimes: No....because that Lee-L means "must start"---lee plays for the team playing against the yankees

    Joe Dimes: hence on the pull-down you have

    Joe Dimes: pitcher/pitcher

    Joe Dimes: pitcher/action

    Joe Dimes: action/pitcher

    Joe Dimes: action/action

    DerekB: yeah you have action/action

    DerekB: postive

    DerekB: thats what you asked me for

    DerekB: to win 300 on the yanks

    Joe Dimes: I am going to take your word on this...if you are wrong I assume you will take responsibility?

    Joe Dimes: It just doesn't sound right

    DerekB: I'm looking at the wager in the system.. if for some reason the wager is voided due to a pitching change,
    I assume full responsibility

    Joe Dimes: because the bet would be with the adjusted odds....it wouldn't be to win...what if the odds were -
    2000?

    Joe Dimes: It would be my max risked 389 or something to win at adjusted odds

    DerekB: no man, come on your acting like a rookie here

    Joe Dimes: how so?

    Joe Dimes: So what are the odds on my bet "billy walters"?

    DerekB: if you take the wager action, the odds wont change if there si a pitcher change

    DerekB: thats not how it works

    DerekB: the wager stands

    Joe Dimes: your cookoo for coco puffs

    DerekB: If you dont believe me call in the wagering line. talk to stage yourself

    DerekB: you got the yanks -108

    Joe Dimes: ok pal...Ill talk to you soon ....have a good weekend

    DerekB: I was taking wagers when I was 15 years old

    Joe Dimes: really?

    DerekB: I know how it works..

    DerekB: yeah

    Joe Dimes: your in for a big surprise....so I have action on the ynaks at -108?

    Joe Dimes: lol

    DerekB: thats what the system shows, you asked for it action

    Joe Dimes: Your rep is on the line

    Joe Dimes: what time do you come in tomorrow

    Joe Dimes: ?

    DerekB: lol... ill be here by 1 est

    DerekB: so you think that the wager will be liek reset with different odds?

    DerekB: because of the change in pitcher?

    DerekB: with at risk 324 to win whatever?

    Joe Dimes: Yeah...that or cancelled

    Joe Dimes: probably cancelled

    Joe Dimes: We should make a wager on it

    DerekB: because maybe we're miscommunicating or something

    DerekB: hahaha

    DerekB: ahh i take it but I think I probably get in trouble

    DerekB: no you got action Im sure

    Joe Dimes: Derek...how confident are you on this?

    DerekB: yanks -108 to win 300 no matter who pitches

    DerekB: 100% joe

    DerekB: Im shocked at your surprise here.. you seem like you've been doing this for a while

    Joe Dimes: ok ... bro ... You're going to look like a looney Kazooney and it looks like I will have no action on the
    yanks tonight

    DerekB: but you have it action?? what exactly does that mean to you?

    Joe Dimes: I guarantee you this bet will be cancelled.

    DerekB: its NOT listed, that would mean a voided bet in the case that your pitcher doesnt start

    DerekB: ok, you lose you send me 1k this month lol

    Joe Dimes: haha...ok...let's leave it at this. I have your guarantee it is action @ -108

    DerekB: as a deposit

    Joe Dimes: You better hope the Yanks lose so you don't look like a rookie

    DerekB: alright, Ill talk to you tomorrow then.. first thing Ill do is check your account when I come in

    Joe Dimes: good deal...take care
  • Extra Innings
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-26-10
    • 15058

    #2
    Look like I got the Yanks at -108
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63172

      #3
      if you click on the action, it doesn't matter who pitches
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      • Extra Innings
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-26-10
        • 15058

        #4
        Originally posted by Chi_archie
        if you click on the action, it doesn't matter who pitches
        The odds are suppose to change to the re-adjusted value...he is claiming they don't.
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        • Chi_archie
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-22-08
          • 63172

          #5
          lol @ your cookoo for coco puffs
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          • rfr3sh
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-07-09
            • 10229

            #6
            bet on the other side at +whatever for profit
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            • Extra Innings
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-26-10
              • 15058

              #7
              DerekB: no man, come on your acting like a rookie here

              Joe Dimes: how so?

              Joe Dimes: So what are the odds on my bet "billy walters"?

              DerekB: if you take the wager action, the odds wont change if there si a pitcher change

              DerekB: thats not how it works

              DerekB: the wager stands

              Joe Dimes: your cookoo for coco puffs

              DerekB: If you dont believe me call in the wagering line. talk to stage yourself

              DerekB: you got the yanks -108

              Joe Dimes: ok pal...Ill talk to you soon ....have a good weekend

              DerekB: I was taking wagers when I was 15 years old

              Joe Dimes: really?

              DerekB: I know how it works..

              DerekB: yeah

              Joe Dimes: your in for a big surprise....so I have action on the ynaks at -108?

              Joe Dimes: lol

              DerekB: thats what the system shows, you asked for it action
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              • maersksealand
                SBR MVP
                • 09-17-09
                • 1673

                #8
                "if you take the wager action, the odds wont change if there's a pitcher change"

                yes...this is standard practice
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  get me his name/number and I will call him
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                  • BatemanPatrickl
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 06-21-07
                    • 18772

                    #10
                    Derek is one of the best Customer Reps in the business. I've never had a bad experience with him.
                    Comment
                    • frank21
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-09-10
                      • 350

                      #11
                      Too long, didn't read!!!


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                      • Extra Innings
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-26-10
                        • 15058

                        #12
                        Originally posted by maersksealand
                        "if you take the wager action, the odds wont change if there's a pitcher change"

                        yes...this is standard practice
                        News to me and the whole board....how about Lee's name appearing under the wager

                        Here are their rules:

                        "Action: Team against team, regardless of the starting pitcher. "Action" bets will be adjusted to the new opening line with the new pitcher, the risk remains the same. A pitcher is considered a starting pitcher after throwing one pitch. "
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                        • thebayareabeast
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-22-10
                          • 1475

                          #13
                          Should have told him that without rookies like you the son of a bitch wouldn't have a job.
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                          • Chuck Sims
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-29-05
                            • 3072

                            #14
                            Originally posted by maersksealand
                            "if you take the wager action, the odds wont change if there's a pitcher change"

                            yes...this is standard practice
                            Are you a rookie at this? Standard practice is an adjusted price. The odds most definitely will change.
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                            • JerseyShop101
                              Restricted User
                              • 09-04-08
                              • 2704

                              #15
                              Extra Innings,

                              Would you argue with a local who was insisting that your Yankees play would stay at -108 when it should be adjusted to -187? I know you wouldn't, but that is funny, most people only argue if they are getting screwed, not (possibly) helped, lol.

                              BP would probably give you the better line, after seeing their mistake.
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                              • Brock Landers
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 06-30-08
                                • 45359

                                #16
                                What is the short version of that? LOL
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                                • joe blow
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-09-06
                                  • 775

                                  #17
                                  It's always fun when someone catches one of those dummies,,,and then post the live chat
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                                  • Extra Innings
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-26-10
                                    • 15058

                                    #18
                                    Win or lose this bet is action at 108 so help mr fuckin god
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                                    • durito
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-03-06
                                      • 13173

                                      #19
                                      wow.

                                      he's been taking action since he was 15? is he 16 now?
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                                      • diggler420
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 04-04-10
                                        • 121

                                        #20
                                        wow.. yeah Derrick is wrong.. In some cases the odds wouldnt change unless the picture to replace in the change is far worst.. as in the game tonight.. but again, you did think it was a cancel at first, tricky tricky how that convo went. they'll pay you on this one though -108 for sure
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                                        • durito
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-03-06
                                          • 13173

                                          #21
                                          picture?

                                          the odds are gonna change always.
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                                          • Chuck Sims
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-29-05
                                            • 3072

                                            #22
                                            Bet Phoenix better pay you at -108 since those fucks never adjusted my Seatle -105 bet. They graded it with no adjustment. It did not matter for me but it lets you NYY action bettors know BP did not adjust the line after the pitching change.
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                                            • Intuitive_Edge
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-22-09
                                              • 1644

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                              What is the short version of that? LOL
                                              no kidding
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                                              • itchypickle
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-05-09
                                                • 21452

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                get me his name/number and I will call him

                                                I smell an new video coming this weekend...get em JJ/David
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                                                • mtneer1212
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-22-08
                                                  • 4993

                                                  #25
                                                  The Yankees bet should have been an adjusted line, the total bet should have been canceled. Totals cannot be placed as 'action'.
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                                                  • CarpeDime
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-01-09
                                                    • 7873

                                                    #26
                                                    "joe dimes" that name is cool as hell

                                                    EI in my opinion you were acting like a veteran
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                                                    • BatemanPatrickl
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-21-07
                                                      • 18772

                                                      #27
                                                      Again Derek has always done right by me.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        So what happened??

                                                        The chat was kind of confusing
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                                                        • starfire
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-24-10
                                                          • 17045

                                                          #29
                                                          Who cares, I laided -180 on the Yank$ & won
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                                                          • Chi_archie
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-22-08
                                                            • 63172

                                                            #30
                                                            did they let you keep the -108 EI?
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                                                            • Extra Innings
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-26-10
                                                              • 15058

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              So what happened??

                                                              The chat was kind of confusing
                                                              I was right and BetPhoenix----are they the best or what?
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                                                              • Chi_archie
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-22-08
                                                                • 63172

                                                                #32
                                                                Haha..... you cornered that guy that's been taking bets since he was 15 and got him to promise you an extra 122.95!!!!!


                                                                are you go go back and chat with Derek ("Billy Walters")B when he comes in today?
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