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  • Chuck Sims
    SBR MVP
    • 12-29-05
    • 3072

    #1
    Former NBA Player Now Homeless.
    The sad tale of Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless

    By Dan Devine

    Amid the ceaseless acquisitive frenzy that is NBA free agency, the Boston Globe dropped a harrowing profile of Ray Williams, a former captain of the New York Knicks and a reserve guard on the Boston Celtics' 1985 NBA Finals team who played for six teams during a 10-year NBA career from the late '70s through the mid-'80s. Williams' name might not ring out with today's fans, but he averaged 20 points per game in two different seasons (1979-80 and 1981-82), hung 52 on the Detroit Pistons as a member of the New Jersey Nets on April 17, 1982, and once drew (admittedly aspirational) comparisons to the great Walt Frazier.
    Now, writes the Globe's Bob Hohler, he's homeless.
    Every night at bedtime, former Celtic Ray Williams locks the doors of his home: a broken-down 1992 Buick, rusting on a back street where he ran out of everything.
    The 10-year NBA veteran formerly known as "Sugar Ray'' leans back in the driver's seat, drapes his legs over the center console, and rests his head on a pillow of tattered towels. He tunes his boom box to gospel music, closes his eyes, and wonders.
    Williams, a generation removed from staying in first-class hotels with Larry Bird and Co. in their drive to the 1985 NBA Finals, mostly wonders how much more he can bear.
    The most sobering thing about Hohler's piece? Williams' decline into unemployment, poverty and homelessness appears to have just kind of ... happened.
    Williams, a former University of Minnesota standout who averaged 15.5 points and nearly six assists per game during his time in the league, adamantly tells Hohler that he's "never fallen prey to drugs, alcohol, or gambling," and he's never been arrested, so it's not like he's some shiftless sociopath whom we can easily vilify. According to the feature, there wasn't one key traumatic event that keyed Williams' downfall, with one possible exception — already down on his luck, Williams received a grant from the NBA Legends Foundation, which provides need-based assistance to people who have been involved in the pro game. But according to court records, Hohler writes, "he lost the money ... when the widow of a condominium owner who agreed to a lease-to-own contract with Williams opted out of the contract after the owner died." Which sounds like a horrendously bad break that exacerbated an already ugly situation.
    It doesn't sound like a case of over-the-top avarice, either; while Hohler notes that Williams was "no longer able to sustain his NBA lifestyle" when he first filed for bankruptcy in 1994, he doesn't mention any particularly conspicuous consumption or extravagant expenditures. As the story goes, Williams just hasn't been able to hang on to any of a slew of off-court jobs over the course of the 23 years since he retired in 1987. Now, he's got nothing except the '92 Buick he sleeps in and a '97 Chevy Tahoe that he can't get out of hock.
    There's no prime mover behind the disintegration, no obvious flaw in the system against which to rage. Like any story of slipping through the cracks in American society, that makes it harder to digest, compartmentalize and set aside.
    Maybe NBA players of today, who make exponentially more money than their predecessors before ever stepping on the court, do owe a fiscal debt to the players who came before; then again, maybe Williams bears the blame because he blew the roughly $2 million he made in contracts during his career. Maybe Williams' family, former friends and associates merit some scorn for allowing him to live alone in a car in Florida; then again, maybe they've all had to distance themselves from Williams after 20-plus years of never getting his stuff together and failing to repay repeated loans, favors and kindnesses.
    Maybe agencies like the Legends Foundation and the NBA Retired Players Association need to do more to help people like Williams; then again, maybe they've already done enough, having given him grants totaling more than $12,000. Maybe his coaches, teachers and mentors failed him, setting him to serve as one more awful example of how, when it comes to young basketball players, the only training and skill development that anybody really cares about takes place on the hardwood. Then again, maybe "Society's to blame" is a red herring that divests the downtrodden of personal responsibility.
    Whichever way your sympathies run, the story of how Ray Williams' life fell apart should serve as a cautionary tale for athletes of the imperative to prepare for life after the game — and, frankly, a jarring reminder to all of us that we should appreciate what we're lucky enough to have while we're lucky enough to have it.
  • wtf
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-22-08
    • 12983

    #2
    i dont know , those '92 buicks are pretty comfortable i am told
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    • tltaylor89
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-19-09
      • 19610

      #3
      What I'm trying to figure out is if you got a degree from the University of Minnesota and still are homeless .Guy Just stopped caring I guess these people get these big ass checks and blow them like candy.
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      • bighank33
        SBR High Roller
        • 11-03-09
        • 190

        #4
        dont feel sorry for him one bit
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        • OverUnder
          SBR MVP
          • 12-31-09
          • 3126

          #5
          Originally posted by bighank33
          dont feel sorry for him one bit
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          • will2survive
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-26-09
            • 8099

            #6
            wow..I used be a big Ray Williams friend when I was a kid--why isn't his brother Gus helping him out?
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            • stealthyburrito
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-12-09
              • 21562

              #7
              despite not dabbling into drugs, alcohol, gambling, etc. he still didn't manage his money properly. sounds like there is more to this story.

              really was his own doing.
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              • sundin4prez
                SBR MVP
                • 03-09-10
                • 1970

                #8
                am i supposed to feel sorry for a man that played a game for a living a made millions while doing it is now poor?.... get a job buddy, i heard mcdonalds is hiring....
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                • will2survive
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-26-09
                  • 8099

                  #9
                  Ray Williams never made millions.Do your homework.He played in the 70's and early 80's---Christ
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63172

                    #10
                    happens to alot of athletes. not as many as it used to, since the minimum salary now is close to what the biggest stars used to make.....

                    I remember reading very sad stories about Steeler all pro center Mike Webster being alone and homeless on the streets before his death
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                    • dinaro7
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-06-09
                      • 888

                      #11
                      i could care less big hank33 was right sundin 4 pres is right let him get ajob washing dishes
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        THis guy was one of my favorite players growing up watching Knicks

                        I just saw this thread and makes me feel bad

                        Sad story
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                        • FreeFall
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-20-08
                          • 3365

                          #13
                          I don't feel any sorry. It's all capitalism in a market. They go up a lot higher than some go up and they can go down a lot father than others can go down. It's not my fault they didn't invest in themselves past 40 or whenever they quit sports.
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                          • mrmarket
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-26-10
                            • 4953

                            #14
                            So the schadenfreude it feels good yes?

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                            • TheLock
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-06-08
                              • 14427

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sundin4prez
                              am i supposed to feel sorry for a man that played a game for a living a made millions while doing it is now poor?.... get a job buddy, i heard mcdonalds is hiring....


                              Millions?


                              LOL.
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                              • BestPlay2day
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-25-08
                                • 5794

                                #16
                                Sad story, he did make $2 million in his NBA career which was a lot of money in the 70s and 80s. So many NBA players don't know how to save their money, been so many stories like this coming out.
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                                • Sunde91
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 8325

                                  #17
                                  I can read my yahoo home page just fine, thanks
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                                  • thezbar
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-29-06
                                    • 6429

                                    #18
                                    I don't see how he can't find a job. Security guard jobs are always available. Something else is going on her.
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                                    • GELATINOUS CUBE
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-09-09
                                      • 4534

                                      #19
                                      SO-HE-DIDNT-BUY-A-HOUSE-WITH-THAT-2-MIL-HE-MADE?
                                      blog '09-'10: 37-16: +$31,900
                                      mlb 2010; 16-12: +$4,540
                                      gellyhoops 2010: 10-6 +$3,150
                                      overall: 63-34 +$40,290
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                                      • Sunde91
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-26-09
                                        • 8325

                                        #20
                                        I challenge anyone to find a white NBA player who's bankrupt...hell, any athlete.

                                        We see a story like this every week now.

                                        Fukin 3rd string punters with 1/100th the salary are infinitely better off than these 70 IQ retards.
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                                        • tealish
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-02-10
                                          • 3386

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sunde91
                                          I challenge anyone to find a white NBA player athlete who's bankrupt...hell, any athlete. We see a story like this every week now. Fukin 3rd string punters with 1/100th the salary are infinitely better off than these 70 IQ retards.
                                          your 2000th post needs to be as racist, if not more, than this one. Only fitting
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                                          • tblues2005
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-30-06
                                            • 9235

                                            #22
                                            That is sad.
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                                            • BEANTOWNJIM
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-12-05
                                              • 4610

                                              #23
                                              TAYLOR A DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA FOR A BASKETBALL PLAYER AND A BLACK ONE AT THAT EQUELS A HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE OR LESS.DO YOU THINK RAY WILLIAMS WAS STUDYING NUCLEAR MEDICINE AT MINNESOTA

                                              WHAT THE ARTICLE DOESNT TELL US IS HOW MANY KEEDS HE HAS LEFT WITHOUT A FATHER AND THE REASON HE IS ON THE STREETS BECAUSE HE GOT SICK AND TIRED OF WHITE WOMEN LOOKING FOR CHILD SUPPORT
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                                              • ryanspeer2001
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-30-08
                                                • 3149

                                                #24
                                                Doesn't he have good friends and connections from his 10 YEARS in the game. If being poor is little fault of his own then one of his well vested and financially stable NBA friends might be able to get him atleast a studio apartment.
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                                                • BarkingToad
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-31-08
                                                  • 5913

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Sunde91
                                                  I challenge anyone to find a white NBA player who's bankrupt...hell, any athlete.
                                                  Actually, Mark Brunell filed for bankruptcy last week on failed real estate investments.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    These guys are just not smart, most have a 7th grade IQ

                                                    Its a shame
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                                                    • nobshine
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 01-12-08
                                                      • 489

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Sunde91
                                                      I challenge anyone to find a white NBA player who's bankrupt...hell, any athlete.

                                                      We see a story like this every week now.

                                                      Fukin 3rd string punters with 1/100th the salary are infinitely better off than these 70 IQ retards.

                                                      not nba, but Brunell just filed. Its racist uniformed punks like you that have not learned to think before you speak. If you had any clue what u are talking about you would know that this world is full of leaches, drugs, poor investment advisors, market fluctuations, and people like you who, if you had more than $12 in your pocket, could end up just like him. Go back to watching cartoons on daddy's tv. Idiot
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                                                      • milwaukee mike
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-22-07
                                                        • 26914

                                                        #28
                                                        $2 million over the course of 10 years really isn't that much, after taxes that's about 100,000/year

                                                        not even close to enough to save for a lifetime of post-nba living

                                                        brunell making $52 million and still having to declare bankruptcy over a $3 million real estate deal is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY THOUGH, THAT IS MIND BOGGLING HOW A GUY COULD BURN THROUGH $30 million or so after taxes and not have any assets??
                                                        if he was really following in that cheap-ass favre's footsteps he would still have every penny
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                                                        • Noelani_06
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 18

                                                          #29
                                                          wow, thats hard...unbelieveable...
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                                                          • PuckOff
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-14-07
                                                            • 2395

                                                            #30
                                                            Doesn't the NBA Players Association provide pensions to their members? I know in the NHL if you play/dress for 400 games you receive a pretty decent yearly pension.
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                                                            • Ella600
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 01-15-10
                                                              • 83

                                                              #31
                                                              Very sad story.
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