Just lost my azz on Jokerstars (Pokerstars)

[OmgUrMom]

I hate online poker, well i hate all poker. I can't win i must be the worst player alive. Seriously. I try everything, cash games, sngs, tournaments. Haven't final tabled a tourney in years.

I run into AA about every 20 hands and when i finally get a good hand like AA KK or QQ i lose to some ridicoulous garbage. It doesn't make any sense.

2 out and 3 out rivers come against me like 20% of the time rather than 7%.

It's not fair

I guess I just suck at life, I have been playing this game for like 8 years and I'm still a losing player? I have probably played over one million hands lifetime and I still suck, wow I am just a pathetic excuse for a human being.

[ZetaPsi808]

post some hand histories so we can see these bad beats

[wtf]

I think that online poker is skewed to favor the dogs so to encourage players to pay for flops, etc. keeping it lively

do you play live poker? you must have different results

[OverUnder]

online anything is fixed

[OmgUrMom]

post some hand histories so we can see these bad beats

did a day self ban so can't get back online but i will tell u about one of the better ones.

playing .10/.25 no limit hold em cash game get AA on button, middle position raises to .75, i make it 2.50 he calls (we are both $25 deep) Flop AQ3 rainbow, he checks i bet $4, he raises to $10, i shove stack. He has QQ river Q, 1 outered

Not to mention i usually 4 table sngs and at one point i busted 3 within 10 minutes all on 2 outer rivers.

[DrStale]

AA or KK isn't going to do you much good if you don't know how to play it. Bottom line is that if you get another player to put all their chips in with a significant disadvantage you are going to win long term.

[wtf]

he got FOUR FUKIN QUEENS?

[OmgUrMom]

I think that online poker is skewed to favor the dogs so to encourage players to pay for flops, etc. keeping it lively

do you play live poker? you must have different results

i used to win at live poker but now i have no patience for it. (probably partialy because of online) im used to see 400 hands an hour now or more. When you play rush poker on full tilt sometimes i play 2 tables and then you see over 1,000 hands an hour, constant action and decisions.

Now i play live and am bored out of my mind getting only 30 hands per hour. Then someone bad beats me and I realize i am going to have to play well for another 8 hours just to HOPEFULLY get unstuck and I just can't do it anymore.

So basically im just a losing player all around now. I used to win at live poker before i started playing online, but since i started playing online i just lose at both. I'm pathetic

[OmgUrMom]

AA or KK isn't going to do you much good if you don't know how to play it. Bottom line is that if you get another player to put all their chips in with a significant disadvantage you are going to win long term.

i know how to play it....but what am i going to do in a tourney when i get AA and flop is Q 33 after i raised preflop (we are 20 big blinds deep) can't fold this flop can i? So many times they have a 3 lol....no three should be in there range and even if i put it in there range i still cant fold with 17 bbs behind and a 6 bb pot.

i play em well but every time it seems i have lost by river, even tho im usually all in on flop or turn

i rarely slowplay them, as that is usually not a wise strategy, altho occasinoally its right

[OmgUrMom]

he got FOUR FUKIN QUEENS?

yes sir he did

[OmgUrMom]

I think that online poker is skewed to favor the dogs so to encourage players to pay for flops, etc. keeping it lively

it seems like this but i really don't believe it. They make way too much money doing it fair to bother skewing things I think.

So many players have tracking software that records all hands, im pretty sure somethnig would show up in there data after hundreds of thousands of hands...

[wtf]

yes sir he did

that is beyond retarded , give it up , playing live poker since i was a kid , dont know if i ever saw four queens EVER

online is a total joke as noted earlier

[stikymess]

Not saying online is rigged, BUT, played live one Saturday for about 8 hours and didn't draw AA all day, played online for about 1 1/2 got AA 3 times. Lost twice. I just think it's hard to get rid of people betting and raising they will just play it all the way through so they are bound to catch something.

Too many articles about twenty two year old becoming rich playing online, hell even in this months Maxim there's an article.

[JW Cash]

I hate online poker, well i hate all poker. I can't win i must be the worst player alive. Seriously. I try everything, cash games, sngs, tournaments. Haven't final tabled a tourney in years.

I run into AA about every 20 hands and when i finally get a good hand like AA KK or QQ i lose to some ridicoulous garbage. It doesn't make any sense.

2 out and 3 out rivers come against me like 20% of the time rather than 7%.

It's not fair

I guess I just suck at life, I have been playing this game for like 8 years and I'm still a losing player? I have probably played over one million hands lifetime and I still suck, wow I am just a pathetic excuse for a human being.

..you may need to write a book as to how terrible your life is....

ya should get a couple sales.....

[Bigmikesm]

I haven't played at Pokerstars in over 4 months. I even started a thread myself about bad beats on that site.

[wtf]

I do think there was a study of past hands and how many times the dog won

and it did prove it was skewed in favor of the dogs, and thus you get more players hanging around post flop

[exstatman]

I closed my PS account due to bad beats, then today, I get an e-mail saying I was a victim of collusion in SNG's and they have placed money in my now closed account. Thanks alot Poker Stars.

[shari91]

If it makes you feel better OMG, I can think of at least 3 instances off the top of my head where I was beaten by 4 of a kind when I had high trips on FullTilt. And each time it was on the river.

[wtf]

If it makes you feel better OMG, I can think of at least 3 instances off the top of my head where I was beaten by 4 of a kind when I had high trips on FullTilt. And each time it was on the river.

you see , it ALWAYS the dog that gets the 4 of kind

why didnt you get the 4 of a kind??

fuk that fuking bullshit

[jayc88]

anyone who says that online poker is rigged is a losing player and is just trying to find an excuse for his lack of knowledge and skill.

[shari91]

anyone who says that online poker is rigged is a losing player and is just trying to find an excuse for his lack of knowledge and skill.

I'm not saying it's rigged because I don't really have a clue. I know people collude, at least on FullTilt, but you come to expect that to a certain extent now. I do know however that despite the money I've made on there, it's those damn beats that stick in my head to the point where I'd rather go to Crown Casino and play live. At least then I can make a damn night of it instead of sitting at home contemplating smashing my laptop.

[jayc88]

I'm not saying it's rigged because I don't really have a clue. I know people collude, at least on FullTilt, but you come to expect that to a certain extent now. I do know however that despite the money I've made on there, it's those damn beats that stick in my head to the point where I'd rather go to Crown Casino and play live. At least then I can make a damn night of it instead of sitting at home contemplating smashing my laptop.

agree thats why i'm not playing online poker anymore, but if you are playing online on multiple tables bad beats just have to happen quite often. I know this is very hard to accept for most players, but its def not rigged.
Online poker was a goldmine 5-10 years ago , nowadays tables are full of tight players and its not worth my time and effort any longer.

[Thomas_Garber]

i used to win at live poker but now i have no patience for it. (probably partialy because of online) im used to see 400 hands an hour now or more. When you play rush poker on full tilt sometimes i play 2 tables and then you see over 1,000 hands an hour, constant action and decisions.

Now i play live and am bored out of my mind getting only 30 hands per hour. Then someone bad beats me and I realize i am going to have to play well for another 8 hours just to HOPEFULLY get unstuck and I just can't do it anymore.

So basically im just a losing player all around now. I used to win at live poker before i started playing online, but since i started playing online i just lose at both. I'm pathetic

This is true, you can get bored easily on a live table after playing online for a while. But i find online game different. I win consistently when I play live however it is slow and boring. I tried online poker and couldn't win for shit. While playing online, I noticed that you always get stuck in the middle of an action hand. The money just moves back and fourth between players rapidly....i guess they do it that way to maximize rake profit. I haven't played much, but i think you need a really different strategy to play online. I haven't came up with any so I stopped playing online. I play live couple of times a month during the weekends.

[davidchong]

I closed my PS account due to bad beats, then today, I get an e-mail saying I was a victim of collusion in SNG's and they have placed money in my now closed account. Thanks alot Poker Stars.

how much?

[Thomas_Garber]

anyone who says that online poker is rigged is a losing player and is just trying to find an excuse for his lack of knowledge and skill.

I keep track of my winnings and losses. I am not saying online is rigged but I cannot win online.

I am not a losing player because I do really well playing live.

It could be because I play live only during the weekends. Could be because of the drunk idiots, i don't know!

[davidchong]

you see , it ALWAYS the dog that gets the 4 of kind

why didnt you get the 4 of a kind??

fuk that fuking bullshit

ehhhh

[OTL]

Playing live is much more profitable and much more enjoyable. Online poker is okay for learning the basics and for some of the low buy-in tournaments which can give you a chance to win life-changing money, but that's pretty much all it's good for.

[jjgold]

95% of people that play poker are dead broke including so called pros

stay away

[mrmarket]

95% of people that play poker are dead broke including so called pros

stay away

95% of people that sports bet are dead broke including so called pros

stay away

[mrmarket]

And it's inspiring to see that you've followed through with your resolution to stop gambling OMG.

[Karayilan9]

I thought you gave it up?

Remember when you play online poker alone, everybody else in the room may know each other

[unusialsusp5]

everyone thinks they are a good poker player. but don't have a clue.

[wal66]

Omg, one of the problems playing online is you aren't able to SEE body language as tells. The way a person handles their chips before placing them in the pot, the way they look at their cards or any of the many many other tells. However there are certain types of tells players give off online. The size of the bet the time differential in placing their bet and other subtle hints that suggest the strength or weakness of their hands. This can be picked up on when playing ONE table aonline but it decreases significantly the more tables you are playing at a time. That is why true online players are STRICKLY math guys. If you are playing 4,6 or more tables at once you aren't gonna be able to pick up on betting patterns and other type tells common for online players because there is too much action at any given time so they are playing pure percentages.

I don't know if you are a serious math guy or not but if you have any weaknesses in your math then chances are you aren't putting yourself in the best situation playing multiple tables or super fast games.

It took me several thousand dollars to figure this out. I'm ok at math but I'm not SHARP and more importantly I'm not QUICK. Give me some time and I'll figure the math out but it's not like a second language and in online multitable games it basically needs to be a first language. Not only that but it needs to be a fluent without hesitation instant first language.

[poker_dummy101]

post graph

[1tarheelfan]

did a day self ban so can't get back online but i will tell u about one of the better ones.

playing .10/.25 no limit hold em cash game get AA on button, middle position raises to .75, i make it 2.50 he calls (we are both $25 deep) Flop AQ3 rainbow, he checks i bet $4, he raises to $10, i shove stack. He has QQ river Q, 1 outered

Not to mention i usually 4 table sngs and at one point i busted 3 within 10 minutes all on 2 outer rivers.

i lost 770 on the wnba silver's playing the linx on nba tv.it wasnt the money that made me mad it was the idea of liking other games that won.i was pissed for three days,and didnt feel like talking to much.i think you are a damn fool for posting this type of shit. next time i will play 5 dollars instead,and think iam breaking thw bank.